Do Republicans "win" by destroying the reputation of government?

Quote from Krazen1211 : Only some portions of discretionary spending. When did the GOP house ever approve of Obamacare in 2011, 2012, or 2013? They've tried to defund it dozens of times and Obamacare remains.

I realize this site is somewhat sketchy , but it claims it happened here:

House Continuing Resolution passes with funding for Obamacare [teapartypatriots.org]

Quote : You see, the Democrats set it up such that entitlement and mandatory spending renews itself without the approval of the GOP House. Convenient.

Still don't see any evidence of this ^ and I found evidence to the contrary.

the title of this thread is funny.....


who was the one that cancelled white house tours again?? did gitmo get closed his first term as promised?? bengahzi??


some is destroying the government's reputation and peoples' trust in it......

remember????:

“We would put every corporate tax break and every pork barrel spending online for every American to see, and you will know who asked for them. And you can decide whether your representatives are actually representing you.”


“We have already identified over $2 trillion dollars in deficit reductions that will help us cut our deficit in half by the end of my first term."

Quote from MISHNAH : wat? Its not the Republicans that want to control every aspect of your social AND economic freedoms.

They want to control you from even before you're a twinkle in your parents' eyes, with strict laws governing how and with whom people may reproduce. Then they want to control you with strict laws governing how you may behave, which are dictated to Republican legislators by right-wing ideologues and Evangelical Christian leaders. They want to deny you any kind of economic freedom that would allow people to compete on a free and fair basis with the ultra-rich and ultra-powerful (the way the GOP has gutted education and infrastructure is a prime example). Finally, they want to control the way you die--in a gutter, without medical insurance.

Quote from 124nic8 : Do you think more or fewer people would eat sausage if they saw how it is made? "Transparency" does not enhance the reputation of an ugly process.

I think fewer people would eat sausage after seeing how it's made. And that's why fewer people think good things about government when it becomes transparent and is no longer covered up by lies and deceit.

Quote from thikthird : this is proving my point. we are dealing with anarchists here, who will stop at nothing until no trace of society remains.

You crazy anarchists and your increasing spending 2% less than wanted! Locusts! Brimstone! Floods!

Quote from travathian : And yet they still pay far, far, far less in taxes than they did 30 years ago, or 20 years ago.

Peter Schiff: The Fantasy of a 91% Top Income Tax Rate
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1...82808.html

Quote : So if the top marginal tax rate has fallen to 35% from 91%, how in the world has the tax burden on the wealthy remained roughly the same? Two factors are responsible. Lower- and middle-income workers now bear a significantly lighter burden than in the past. And the confiscatory top marginal rates of the 1950s were essentially symbolic—very few actually paid them. In reality the vast majority of top earners faced lower effective rates than they do today.

Quote from gunnerusa : Modern Republicanism is a counter-revolution against freedom.

You could make that case against the neocons, but not really against the rest.

And the reason you could make that case against the neocons is because they are on the same page as many/most Democrats when it comes to authoritarian big government.

Quote from Deusxmachina : I think fewer people would eat sausage after seeing how it's made. And that's why fewer people think good things about government when it becomes transparent and is no longer covered up by lies and deceit.

When did that happen?

Quote from Rebound : Every reasonable person knows that we need tax increases and spending cuts. Just one look at the numbers shows this.

Exactly.

Quote from thikthird : this is proving my point. we are dealing with anarchists here, who will stop at nothing until no trace of society remains.

Bullshit. Who exactly is calling for anarchy? Who is calling for NO government what so ever?

The only thing being called for here, is another form of government. A smaller government.

Quote from OhNoItsDEVO : Bullshit. Who exactly is calling for anarchy? Who is calling for NO government what so ever? The only thing being called for here, is another form of government. A smaller government.

Never heard of a slippery slope?

Quote from 124nic8 : Never heard of a slippery slope?

I don't buy the idea that reducing the size of government, will cause government to fail.

Quote from OhNoItsDEVO : I don't buy the idea that reducing the size of government, will cause government to fail.

If the government does what you want rather than what the majority wants, do you think they will be re-elected?

Quote from 124nic8 : If the government does what you want rather than what the majority wants, do you think they will be re-elected?

Nah...

Quote from OhNoItsDEVO : Nah...

Well, that's our version of a government failing and falling.

Quote from 124nic8 : When did that happen?

Government started becoming super-duper transparent beginning in 2009. I know because the President told me so.

Quote from Deusxmachina : Government started becoming super-duper transparent beginning in 2009. I know because the President told me so.

In reality, he didn't.

IIRC, he only promised the most transparency in history.

Do you think that is a high bar?