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Quote from Thunderpants : When I ran with Nike Free's (1st generation) I had some shin splint problems and such. .

Quote from rpacer : been wanting to get one of these. Anyone know if its good guarding in the rain or does it get soaky wet too like any other sneaker?

Quote from bbrradd : there is absolutely zero proof or scientific evidence that supports barefoot running strengthens any muscles.

I have been into barefoot running for a long time - before vibrams were common. I would actually run barefoot both outside and on the treadmill. Being in the military for many years I ran and trained a lot - I never saw as much improvement in my running as I did after I made the switch to barefoot. Now its even better because I can run "barefoot" without having to worry about rocks and sticks and glass or slipping on the treadmill from sweaty feet.

You guys are so petty hoping that people who wear Vibrams trip or have nothing better to do than troll and bash people for their choices. I wonder how many of the bashers who quote half *** studies would all of a sudden become sheep if some famous actor started strolling around in them.

And this is not trendy, plenty of people ran "barefoot" before Vibrams and will continue to do so even if they stopped making them due to the success of the other minimalist shoes.

Bikilia x2
seeyas
kmd sport ls
nike free
new balance minimus
With some Seeya LS and Spyridon on the wish list!

I know I will continue to incorporate "barefoot" running into my cardio training long after this so called trend is over.

I honestly can not recall how they are in the rain, just so use to running in them. Much lighter than a sneaker that is soaked through and through and less slosh.

I did not care much for the Nike frees for running, I got the first gen when they first came out but I did wear them out and about and to work out in. Did you try any of the other generation frees?

Does running not increase muscle strength in and of itself? I think there is plenty of scientific proof that shows that running in barefoot shoes can and does in fact increase muscle strength. Does it do as some barefoot advocates claim and increase other muscles that have become weak due to our reliance on gigantic foam or air bubbles or springs in the soles of our current shoes or due to the different style of running? Who knows! I do know that it has helped me and many other runners and that in itself is a good thing! Heck, even if its the Placebo effect I will take it( I do not believe it is)!

Quote from bbrradd : obviously you did not read this article in entirety. It stresses the different types of running style, you can very your running style no matter what type of shoes you wear. Saying there is no real proof barefoot running has any advantage over regular shoes is not an opinion, it is a statement of facts

read the actual nature article where it states that heel striking suddenly increases force on the foot and thereby the entire body, whereas impact time with a fore or midfoot strike increases, thereby distributing the force gradually.

ill go ahead and take the lab's controlled research over yours, "or lack thereof"

Ok, so if you think they are bad for running, don't get them. If you want them for some water activities, then at 50% off these are great (i.e., white water rafting, etc).

does anyone know if the size fluctuates with different styles of Vibram Fivefingers? I don't want to order one size based on a different style and have to return it for not fitting.

Quote from garion : does anyone know if the size fluctuates with different styles of Vibram Fivefingers? I don't want to order one size based on a different style and have to return it for not fitting.

In my experience, the Vibram fitting chart has been valid. It shows the vast majority of styles at one size with the only exceptions being Classics and Sprints, which run smaller. My Bikilas, KSOs, Treks, and TrekSports all fit in the same way, and while I can squeeze into the same size for Classics, I generally size up.

Quote from lochnessie : In my experience, the Vibram fitting chart has been valid. It shows the vast majority of styles at one size with the only exceptions being Classics and Sprints, which run smaller. My Bikilas, KSOs, Treks, and TrekSports all fit in the same way, and while I can squeeze into the same size for Classics, I generally size up.

Thanks!

Btw to other peeps... I don't run in my KSOs but I do use them to work out in (and some treadmill work) and just like how free they feel.

Quote from justenblake : I have been into barefoot running for a long time - before vibrams were common. I would actually run barefoot both outside and on the treadmill. Being in the military for many years I ran and trained a lot - I never saw as much improvement in my running as I did after I made the switch to barefoot. Now its even better because I can run "barefoot" without having to worry about rocks and sticks and glass or slipping on the treadmill from sweaty feet. You guys are so petty hoping that people who wear Vibrams trip or have nothing better to do than troll and bash people for their choices. I wonder how many of the bashers who quote half *** studies would all of a sudden become sheep if some famous actor started strolling around in them. And this is not trendy, plenty of people ran "barefoot" before Vibrams and will continue to do so even if they stopped making them due to the success of the other minimalist shoes. Bikilia x2 seeyas kmd sport ls nike free new balance minimus With some Seeya LS and Spyridon on the wish list! I know I will continue to incorporate "barefoot" running into my cardio training long after this so called trend is over. I honestly can not recall how they are in the rain, just so use to running in them. Much lighter than a sneaker that is soaked through and through and less slosh. I did not care much for the Nike frees for running, I got the first gen when they first came out but I did wear them out and about and to work out in. Did you try any of the other generation frees? Does running not increase muscle strength in and of itself? I think there is plenty of scientific proof that shows that running in barefoot shoes can and does in fact increase muscle strength. Does it do as some barefoot advocates claim and increase other muscles that have become weak due to our reliance on gigantic foam or air bubbles or springs in the soles of our current shoes or due to the different style of running? Who knows! I do know that it has helped me and many other runners and that in itself is a good thing! Heck, even if its the Placebo effect I will take it( I do not believe it is)!

Not sure why you quoted me when I agreed with you. Like I said at first running in Nike Free's to mimic barefoot running I would get some shin splints but it didn't take too many days to overcome that and make my calves and ankles stronger. I also was running 4 miles in them every time. After running in minimalist shoes mimicking barefoot running I wouldn't go back to the bigger normal running shoes.

Well the proof is in the pudding. I have plantar fasciitis and most likely bone spurs in my heels. In regular shoes, you have to heel strike and that aggravates the bone spurs. In the Vibrams, they're SO comfortable, I literally have minimal heel pain at the end of the day (walking on concrete at that, NYC), opposed to pain after 10 minutes of walking in *new* running shoes WITH orthotic inserts.

Plus on Amazon you can see many people being relieved of their knee, foot, back pain after a short time with them.

In regards to the study, you essentially have to re-learn how to run again (shorter strides vs longer strides with shoes). The running mechanics are different. The Vibram company itself tells you to keep it slow for the first month+ of having the shoes. It simply isn't a matter of "I run every day and now I change these shoes and I will be the same"

I question the authenticity of 6pm's VFFs. I purchased a pair from them, thought they were too small, so went to a fit2run store and purchased a size larger.

When I compared the two, boxing print was different font sized, stitching on the shoe was different inside, logo embroidery was thicker on one, and the brochure tag attached to the shoes was of different material and color.

I emailed 6pm and they assured it was authentic, but VFF's site says they don't sell to store without a physical store front. I emailed Vibram to see about 6pm, but haven't gotten a response yet.

Just found it odd..

Bought!

Quote from AlexiusXerxes : I question the authenticity of 6pm's VFFs. I purchased a pair from them, thought they were too small, so went to a fit2run store and purchased a size larger. When I compared the two, boxing print was different font sized, stitching on the shoe was different inside, logo embroidery was thicker on one, and the brochure tag attached to the shoes was of different material and color. I emailed 6pm and they assured it was authentic, but VFF's site says they don't sell to store without a physical store front. I emailed Vibram to see about 6pm, but haven't gotten a response yet. Just found it odd..

Actually, that's an interesting point (and one I tend to forget on any product)... I had read somewhere about being careful about getting counterfeit Vibrams.

Quote from garion : Actually, that's an interesting point (and one I tend to forget on any product)... I had read somewhere about being careful about getting counterfeit Vibrams.

Quote from AlexiusXerxes : I question the authenticity of 6pm's VFFs. I purchased a pair from them, thought they were too small, so went to a fit2run store and purchased a size larger. When I compared the two, boxing print was different font sized, stitching on the shoe was different inside, logo embroidery was thicker on one, and the brochure tag attached to the shoes was of different material and color. I emailed 6pm and they assured it was authentic, but VFF's site says they don't sell to store without a physical store front. I emailed Vibram to see about 6pm, but haven't gotten a response yet. Just found it odd..

Well, in another thread:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/show...tcount=143

Quote from AlexiusXerxes : I question the authenticity of 6pm's VFFs. I purchased a pair from them, thought they were too small, so went to a fit2run store and purchased a size larger. When I compared the two, boxing print was different font sized, stitching on the shoe was different inside, logo embroidery was thicker on one, and the brochure tag attached to the shoes was of different material and color. I emailed 6pm and they assured it was authentic, but VFF's site says they don't sell to store without a physical store front. I emailed Vibram to see about 6pm, but haven't gotten a response yet. Just found it odd..

Last time the deal happened I shared it on the vibram Facebook page. They replied that 6pm was an authorized retailer. They are a clearing house for zappos.

I love my vibrams, glad I discovered them. I have ran one 5k in them and had a blast.
I've became a workout nut in the chase to drop weight and these are great except for the occasional stubbing of littletoe when I don't pay attention against equipment.

awesome! here is the similar comparison video, the author has similar background as yours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-i6awFhr9Y


my personal favorite among KSO,bikila,seeya,kmd sport for road running is seeya. I only do slow jogging tho..

Quote from justenblake : I have been into barefoot running for a long time - before vibrams were common. I would actually run barefoot both outside and on the treadmill. Being in the military for many years I ran and trained a lot - I never saw as much improvement in my running as I did after I made the switch to barefoot. Now its even better because I can run "barefoot" without having to worry about rocks and sticks and glass or slipping on the treadmill from sweaty feet. You guys are so petty hoping that people who wear Vibrams trip or have nothing better to do than troll and bash people for their choices. I wonder how many of the bashers who quote half *** studies would all of a sudden become sheep if some famous actor started strolling around in them. And this is not trendy, plenty of people ran "barefoot" before Vibrams and will continue to do so even if they stopped making them due to the success of the other minimalist shoes. Bikilia x2 seeyas kmd sport ls nike free new balance minimus With some Seeya LS and Spyridon on the wish list! I know I will continue to incorporate "barefoot" running into my cardio training long after this so called trend is over. I honestly can not recall how they are in the rain, just so use to running in them. Much lighter than a sneaker that is soaked through and through and less slosh. I did not care much for the Nike frees for running, I got the first gen when they first came out but I did wear them out and about and to work out in. Did you try any of the other generation frees? Does running not increase muscle strength in and of itself? I think there is plenty of scientific proof that shows that running in barefoot shoes can and does in fact increase muscle strength. Does it do as some barefoot advocates claim and increase other muscles that have become weak due to our reliance on gigantic foam or air bubbles or springs in the soles of our current shoes or due to the different style of running? Who knows! I do know that it has helped me and many other runners and that in itself is a good thing! Heck, even if its the Placebo effect I will take it( I do not believe it is)!