60" Panasonic VIERA TC-P60GT50 600Hz 1080p Plasma 3D WiFi THX HDTV - $1599 + FS + No Tax (For Most States)

Quote from CSIG1001 : Get the 65" st60 for 2200 Epp site Rumors has it they will pro settings 96hz setting like vt50/vt60 better panel then the gt50 or go with the ZT for the best tv and don't upgrade till 4k is standard

not sure banking on RUMORS has much merit

since no one has actually compared the two

And I would not consider hearsay on AVS forum credible

The only thing I have seen is the short verbiage in this months Sound and Vision that say they could see a difference in this years VT50 and the new ZT60

The question is...actual transaction prices will be about $1500 in the left over VT vs the new ZT...as I said before ..IMO..a $1500 upgrade in sound is worth more than a slighter better television in a home theater experience

There is also an article in there about the fact that OLED will be better than either LED or Plasma technology...as a possible 4K blu ray format

They also say..." Samsung states their new F series plasma will be twice as bright as the E...along with a highly enhanced apps/interactive/smart feature set"

Quote from CSIG1001 : Rumors has it they will pro settings 96hz setting like vt50/vt60 better panel then the gt50 or go with the ZT for the best tv and don't upgrade till 4k is standard

Well, the ST60 only has only has 12,288 shades of gradation [panasonic.com] while the GT50 has 24,576 [panasonic.com]. So it's not clear cut that the ST60 panel is better than the GT50, at least for shades of gradation the GT50 is clearly better on specs. Whether that matters in practice remains to be seen but a 2x advantage for the GT50 may be hard to overcome.

Quote from kuwan : Well, the ST60 only has only has 12,288 shades of gradation [panasonic.com] while the GT50 has 24,576 [panasonic.com]. So it's not clear cut that the ST60 panel is better than the GT50, at least for shades of gradation the GT50 is clearly better on specs. Whether that matters in practice remains to be seen but a 2x advantage for the GT50 may be hard to overcome.

I'm glad you pointed this out. I keep seeing people throwing around that the ST60 is better than the GT50, but there are no formal reviews comparing the two. The ST60 is better in some areas, but worse in others. I'm still under the impression that Panasonic must be cutting out something in the ST60 to give it such a lower MSRP than the GT50 had for the same size.

Also, notice how Panasonic's website has vastly different specifications when you go to the ST60 and the GT50? It's as if they are intentionally trying to prevent a direct comparison between the two models by listing different specs.

Quote from kuwan : Well, the ST60 only has only has 12,288 shades of gradation [panasonic.com] while the GT50 has 24,576 [panasonic.com]. So it's not clear cut that the ST60 panel is better than the GT50, at least for shades of gradation the GT50 is clearly better on specs. Whether that matters in practice remains to be seen but a 2x advantage for the GT50 may be hard to overcome.

It has been said over and over on AVS and other forums that this is a marketing gimmick

pro calibrators see no difference in picture.

Quote from gimpgutter : I'm glad you pointed this out. I keep seeing people throwing around that the ST60 is better than the GT50, but there are no formal reviews comparing the two. The ST60 is better in some areas, but worse in others. I'm still under the impression that Panasonic must be cutting out something in the ST60 to give it such a lower MSRP than the GT50 had for the same size. Also, notice how Panasonic's website has vastly different specifications when you go to the ST60 and the GT50? It's as if they are intentionally trying to prevent a direct comparison between the two models by listing different specs.

The ST60 will have a new designed panel vs the 2012 models and will perform better then the GT50

nuff said ... there is nothing confusing about this.. The ST60 will have a better AG Filter, possibly 96hz option from the VT line. And better processing and home screen


No one uses THX mode its another gimmick ,.... custom mode is the only mode you will ever use once you calibrate it and get the settings from pro calibrators.
The GT50 has a extra HDMI and THX and slightly better screen on the outside that could be more visually pleasing .

Quote from CSIG1001 : Lol ok ... The ST60 is a better set.. good luck on your obsolete tech

No better than the ST50

http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-t.../test.html

Quote from eternal10 : No better than the ST50 http://www.digitalversus.com/tv-t.../test.html

You are freakin lost. The Panasonic st60 in Europe is nothing but a rebranded st50 in europe which is reviewed in that link, with a few improvements


http://www.whathifi.com/news/pana...-tv-series
http://www.whathifi.com/news/pana...-tv-series

The gt60 has a slight edge over the u.s. version of the st60 but that's it. The st60 in the usa is a better set here and will be better then the gt50 here that was made in 2012.

THeir msrp's & initial street prices will be lower than the previous lineup's, but everyone please be sure to only get your pricing info from these dealsites, not technical info (& especially not forecasting of professional reviews). I mean two plus pages of car analogies?! lol

What are you doing?!

Amazon needs to stock the ST60 already.

It's official the ST60 has the 24p/96hz option that the flagship model VT series has had since the V10 back in 2009. Well worth the upgrade over the GT

Quote from CSIG1001 : It's official the ST60 has the 24p/96hz option that the flagship model VT series has had since the V10 back in 2009. Well worth the upgrade over the GT

uh oh

better get the product fast

this is one of several new releases I read because of their poor financial performance and says being far below expectations

Perhaps another bites the dust soon?


http://articles.economictimes.ind...sonic-s-tv

Quote from LeonardVinson : THeir msrp's & initial street prices will be lower than the previous lineup's, but everyone please be sure to only get your pricing info from these dealsites, not technical info (& especially not forecasting of professional reviews). I mean two plus pages of car analogies?! lol What are you doing?!

agreed...and the car analogies made no sense and bring up the point of individual taste
which no doubt plays a part in many purchases

the other element is not getting caught up in marketing hype for a product you dont own and taking the "fan boy" chatter on AVS forum as the gospel

I have been on AVS forum for years and there is some good information...but a lot of opinion and hype as well

Each should use their own eyes on the actual product and then form an opinion

Quote from CSIG1001 : You are freakin lost. The Panasonic st60 in Europe is nothing but a rebranded st50 in europe which is reviewed in that link, with a few improvements http://www.whathifi.com/news/pana...-tv-series http://www.whathifi.com/news/pana...-tv-series The gt60 has a slight edge over the u.s. version of the st60 but that's it. The st60 in the usa is a better set here and will be better then the gt50 here that was made in 2012.

I dont think I have even seen someone so sure of something that they have no experience with...LOL.....

Quote from turnne : agreed...and the car analogies made no sense and bring up the point of individual taste which no doubt plays a part in many purchases the other element is not getting caught up in marketing hype for a product you dont own and taking the "fan boy" chatter on AVS forum as the gospel I have been on AVS forum for years and there is some good information...but a lot of opinion and hype as well Each should use their own eyes on the actual product and then form an opinion I dont think I have even seen someone so sure of something that they have no experience with...LOL.....

Are you a owner of a gt50 ?

Quote from CSIG1001 : Are you a owner of a gt50 ?

as I told you before

I own a Panasonic ST50..a Samsung C8000 and a Samsung E8000..in regards to plasma

what do you own?

also...I keep reading things like this in the last couple of days on AVS forum

what's going on with Panasonic?


http://www.thespec.com/news/busin...-plasma-tv