HP Pavilion G6-2235us Laptop: AMD A6-4400M 2.7GHz, 15.6" LED (1366x768), 4GB DDR3, 750GB HDD, AMD Radeon HD 7520G, 6-Cell, Win 8 $275 after $50 Rebate + Free Shipping

Anyone know when these coupons expire? Shit idk if I should pull the trigger.

Quote from iBoo : Lmao. Alienware? I seen so many videos of people blowing up their gaming laptops. Alienware can be described as an overpriced, piece of garbage and a crappy support.

You are right. Alienware, Sony and Qosimo all garbage. HP, Asus, Lenovo, Acer are the best. Also, Apple is also overpriced garbage. Way to go business pro, way to go!

Quote from tiendo8482 : My list is quite small. Alienware, Qosimo, Sony.

lolz!!!!!

Great deal but A10 better!

Quote from jhill1977 : Can anyone chime in regarding loading Windows 7 on this laptop? I think this would be a great replacement laptop for my Mom, but I don't want to jump the Windows 8 hurdle with her. I also want to continue using iTunes 10.7 which doesn't support Windows 8.

Got this laptop today. Just finished installing windows 7 x64. Runs like a champ!

FYI - make sure you have the network card driver on a thumb drive!

Quote from brownstown : I couldn't agree more.

Quote from SonicTron : Pretttty sure we shouldn't be taking advice from the guy that complains about 4GB of ram needing to be doubled to 8GB to make Windows 8 run smoothly

True. True.

Quote from FalconX : Great deal but A10 better!

You can drop in a Trinity A10!

You can drop in a Richland A10 when it is released!

Quote from Justus : Got this laptop today. Just finished installing windows 7 x64. Runs like a champ! FYI - make sure you have the network card driver on a thumb drive!

Where could you get the network card driver? What about graphic and sound board drivers? I guess windows 7 automatically support? Thank you.

Quote from Arisela : which asus is that?

The one that was on Staples the asus s200e http://www.staples.com/product_101506 it has a great build quality.

Quote from Sam Hobbs : Remember the days of the original IBM PC or was that before your time? Floating-point was available separately on a x87 [wikipedia.org] Coprocessor chip such as the 8087 [wikipedia.org] and 80287. Most software did (and still does) not need floating-point. It is possible that AMD is saving circuitry by providing just one set of floating-point circuitry. Unless you can find something definitive, I think it is safe to assume that both cores have everything except floating-point.

It was before my time

I don't know much about CPU architecture in those days, let alone in the past 10 years. I guess it's all semantics of how everyone is defining a "core". I can't verify Intel's i-series if they contain an FPU in each core but I'm assuming they do. And yes you don't need an FPU since you can "simulate" those calculations in the ALU but obviously slower. Or you can offload those calculations in the GPU. From reading that wikipedia page on Bulldozer, looks like pipeline is "shorter" for each core while sharing certain things like the FPU you've suggested. So really it's semantics on what is a "core"-- seems like articles like Tom's Hardware considers the A-series a pseudo core since it requires more "sharing" when compared to Intel's.

Pretty neat stuff and educational either way-- makes for great SDs too!

Quote from Sam Hobbs : In that article it refers to the ALU, which is what I called control and logic. Note that it also says it has "Two symmetrical 128-bit FMAC (fused multiply–add [wikipedia.org] capability) floating-point pipelines per module that can be unified" ... "and two symmetrical x87/MMX/SSE capable FPPs". Perhaps I misunderstand that but it seems to be saying that there are two floating-point cores. The author of that other article might have misunderstood. It might be that this processor has the potential to use both floating-point cores as a single core and if so then that flexibility seems very useful.

Ahh control unit is separate from the alu But they "should" be contained in each "core".

Reading the wikipedia page again, it does seem like there are two FPU pipelines (1 for each "core") which can be unified. But then I read the part where the module "couples" the two x86 processing engines. I'm assuming that it means there is only one pipeline (fetch/decode) along with certain resources like cache shared by both engines (cores) rather than having them truly separate for each engine.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter since these Trinities are "improved" over the Llanos, regardless if they are using more of a shared architecture.

My original points in this thread were comparing them to the Intel Pentium (non-i-Series)-based laptops, which come on SD regularly at the sub $300 price tag. Even these low end chips from Intel seem to outperform these new A-series chips across the board (non Graphics perspective). Hence I feel this is a decent deal for a laptop with this processor, but not spectacular, due to the availability of the cheaper Intel Pentium laptops under $300 OTD. But I guess any laptop under $300 OTD these days will always be considered a SD regardless of CPU!

Quote from moraleslos : Ahh control unit is separate from the alu But they "should" be contained in each "core". Reading the wikipedia page again, it does seem like there are two FPU pipelines (1 for each "core") which can be unified. But then I read the part where the module "couples" the two x86 processing engines. I'm assuming that it means there is only one pipeline (fetch/decode) along with certain resources like cache shared by both engines (cores) rather than having them truly separate for each engine. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter since these Trinities are "improved" over the Llanos, regardless if they are using more of a shared architecture. My original points in this thread were comparing them to the Intel Pentium (non-i-Series)-based laptops, which come on SD regularly at the sub $300 price tag. Even these low end chips from Intel seem to outperform these new A-series chips across the board (non Graphics perspective). Hence I feel this is a decent deal for a laptop with this processor, but not spectacular, due to the availability of the cheaper Intel Pentium laptops under $300 OTD. But I guess any laptop under $300 OTD these days will always be considered a SD regardless of CPU!

Do you think the difference between this one and http://http://www.bestbuy.com/sit...b=overview
this toshiba satellite is worth 30 to 40 dollars?

K-10 Stat will not work for Trinity processors. Brazos Tweaker works for them. To reduce heat issues, undervolt about .25 or so volts, and battery life would improve a little. To bring the Win 7 Star button and menu back, look for Win 7 shell (free) to get the familiarity back while still using Win 8. Hope this helps. Cheers!

Quote from Miketbach : "And the 4GB of RAM will need to be doubled to help Windows 8 runs smooth." Doubled for win 8 to run smooth? windows 8 runs smooth on my 2006 laptop. With 2 gigs of ram. And there is no need to double the ram as i do not see most people using up all 4 gigs on a daily basis. Even when gaming you don't even use up 4 gigs of ram. This laptop is pretty good for the price to be honest.

same here, $325 bucks