47" LG 47LM4600 1080p 120Hz 3D LED HDTV $505 + Free Shipping

Well, I was gonna get this and cancel the back ordred one from last week, but for some reason ebay/paypal/newegg won't take my money. I guess I'll stick with what I got :/

Quote from angle123 : LG is misleading in advertising. This is really a 60hz TV - LG TruMotion 120hz is not true 120hz, it's gimmick.

Quote from proppat : Remember that these aren't true 120Hz sets. They're 60Hz sets with "black frame insertion." You still have to use 3:2 pulldown for 24fps video. It's false marketing on LG's part.

Reps to both of you, I was not aware of this but a quick google search shows that this information is widely known in the AV forums.

Quote from angle123 : Does anyone know if a 55" LCD TV fits inside a medium sedan's trunk?

Doubt it would fit, but check out the dimensions for your answer.

Quote from AoBfrost : You can stream 3D movies if you have a PS3, they're a bit more expensive to rent though. Time warner cable also have 3D on demand content which I've watched on this TV. Then there's always video games that have 3D modes.

I did find that the XBOX 360 had 3D games, I was not aware of that at all. Unfortunately it was after I had completed assassin's creed revelations so i did not get a chance to try it out.

Beware the Newegg restocking fee on returns. 15% if your returning just cause it didn't float your boat.

Should i return Haier 46" LED TV bought for $335 and buy this ? Any expert would like to comment in ?. Basically i will be getting 3D, 120 HZ and good contrast ratio from a more reputed brand for $150, Should i pull the trigger ?

Has lots of very good reviews on Walmart's website
http://www.walmart.com/ip/LG-47LM...V/21693005

Quote from nikhiil : Should i return Haier 46" LED TV bought for $335 and buy this ? Any expert would like to comment in /.

If you can, yes.

This TV is amazing, and the color is very nice. I was quite impressed with the 3D too when I watched a bluray. The "convert 2D to 3D" feature also works pretty well with certain content, not all.

Make sure you calibrate any TV you buy, the out of the bx picture was already really good, but after calibrating the color, sharpness, etc for a few hours, it's beautiful.

The TV's not truly 120hz like advertised though. It uses software to imitate 120hz to make motion flow smoother. This isn't a downside though, because passive 3D which this TV uses, only needs a 60hz display to properly work. In my opinion, this TV beats other 3D tv in the same class/size.

Quote from AoBfrost : If you can, yes. This TV is amazing, and the color is very nice. I was quite impressed with the 3D too when I watched a bluray. The "convert 2D to 3D" feature also works pretty well with certain content, not all. Make sure you calibrate any TV you buy, the out of the bx picture was already really good, but after calibrating the color, sharpness, etc for a few hours, it's beautiful. The TV's not truly 120hz like advertised though. It uses software to imitate 120hz to make motion flow smoother. This isn't a downside though, because passive 3D which this TV uses, only needs a 60hz display to properly work. In my opinion, this TV beats other 3D tv in the same class/size.

Thanks buying one.

Quote from proppat : I don't even want the "soap opera effect," I just want a true 120Hz tv. People overlook the fact that 120Hz is an actual hardware spec and has little to do with the "soap opera effect" software processing. If you watch a lot of 24fps video, you want 120Hz because the TV can display the video in it's natural state, 24fps (by showing each frame 5 times in succession) instead of having to rely on software 3:2 to display the video. If you watch a lot of movies, especially action movies, you'll notice how much better horizontal movement looks on a 120Hz set because no additional software processing has to be applied to the video. I'm not saying that 60Hz is bad and you should always avoid it, I'm just saying you should be aware of what 120Hz actually is and not be turned off because you saw a 120Hz tv in the store with that cheesy smoothing option turned on.

True. However, LG's 3:2 pulldown in their LM series is exceptionally good. While the LM4600 has not been tested, the LM6200 has and it is basically the same TV, but with the smart features added in. HDTVtest gave this comment about the Uk version of the LM6200:
"Speaking of film, we were very happy to see the LG render 24p motion without any unwanted judder or interpolation – providing very cinema-like motion. Just be sure that you have [TruMotion] OFF and the [Real Cinema] mode on to get this motion quality, though. Although the LCD panel can’t produce blur-free motion with high-motion video content, the lower frame rate of film (24fps) doesn’t pose any problems for the 42LM620T’s panel."

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/lg...erformance

And while this doesn't specifically address 24p, there is this segment from televisioninfo's review of the LM6200, which they rated very highly overall:

"This LG performed above average in our motion tests. There was some blurring and some jagged lines when images moved across the screen, but nothing was bad enough to detract from the viewing experience. There was a little bit of color trailing when we had moving images on the screen, but when viewing a movie or TV show, it was not noticeable."
http://www.televisioninfo.com/con...erformance

Compare that to their opinion of the true 120Hz Samsung EH6000:

"There are two motion processing modes on the Samsung UN40EH6000, Auto Motion Plus, and LED Motion Plus. Neither of these functions were commendable in any fashion. The Auto Motion Plus feature suffered from the many problems we frequently discuss, regarding the Soap Opera Effect. While causing problems for film based content, it also showed significant errors in our motion tests. The smoothness of the motion was excellent, retaining very fine details while in motion, but you would hardly notice this detail for all of the artifacts introduced to the picture.

Artifacts are any part of the picture that are not supposed to be there; images not inherent in the input signal that are displayed on the screen. At the start of every motion was some crazy pixel freakout, where chunks of pixel clusters showed some entirely opposite frame. We wanted to see if this jumbling of the picture was obvious when watching content, and we saw it there too. The noise we saw in our motion tests carried over into actual content, though it was less noticeable. Once we caught it though, it was hard not to see it in just about every moving object from people waving their hands to cars rolling down the street. We turned the Auto Motion Plus function off, and it corrected the pixel freak out, but the slanting and jagged edges increased.

"Standard film content is shot at 24fps (frames per second). 3:2 Pulldown refers to how well a television scales its native frame and refresh rates to match film-based content. The UN40EH6000 has a refresh rate of 120Hz, twice the refresh rate of standard television screens (60Hz), which means that natural film content must be imbued with numerous extra frames per second in order to maintain its original appearance. The Samsung UN40EH6000 suffered a lot of flickering and jittering when put up against our 24fps SMPTe pattern, but otherwise the image maintained an impressive smoothness. The UN40EH6000's Film Mode did little to correct these difficulties, but was definitely noticeable during moving, video-based content; in fact the UN40EH6000 scored higher than average during this test--with or without Film Mode--with very little noticeable frame rate correction or lagging content."

http://www.televisioninfo.com/con...iew/motion

Admittedly they spend too much of that time complaining about the additional processing rather than the 120hz by itself, but even a 120hz can be botched in execution and not any better than a 60HZ with good pulldown.

Quote from angle123 : Does anyone know if a 55" LCD TV fits inside a medium sedan's trunk?

I tried a 50" LG in my 04' Accord, backseats fold down, and it didn't fit. Without the box it might fit in, but I didnt want to unbox a new TV in the parking lot.

Quote from ArmchairQB : I have this set and like it. Although I am having a hard time finding 3D content; Netflix does not ship 3D blu-ray or stream 3D, Amazon Prime does not appear to have any 3D movies, as far as I know DISH does not have any 3D. I do not want to buy 3D movies for $20 just to watch them one time, although I am considering doing so with Avatar just to actually use the 3D.

Direct TV offers 3D broadcasting

Quote from angle123 : LG is misleading in advertising. This is really a 60hz TV - LG TruMotion 120hz is not true 120hz, it's gimmick.

I don't remember any HDTV accepting a true 120 Hz source.

If you want a 120 Hz display device get a monitor like the Asus VG278H.

Quote from Requisite : Damn...I was hoping that there was a lot of content for 3D TVs. Just went & saw my 1st 3D movie in theaters & was blown away the whole time. Looks like I'll stick to theaters :-/

Comcast and hbo have 3D content available for streaming. I think ESPN does 3D also. Although, I think there are a lot of "cord cutters" on SD that do not use a cable company, so my comment might not help those folks.

Other than what has been previously mentioned in this thread, I believe your only other 3D content will be through gaming.

Does anyone know much about the "cinema 3D" tech in LG enough to answer my question: Will any 3D glasses from the theater or disneyland work? So I can just stock up on these to hand out to guests that come over? I doubt I'll ever have more than 4, so what comes with the TV will be enough, but would be nice to know if I can keep those around as spares. Thx!