Samsung Series 7 17.3" Gamer Notebook NP700G7C-S02US | Intel Core i7-3630QM| 1920 x 1080| 16 GB| 1.5 TB HD| NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675M - $1400 w/ FS @ Microsoft Store

Quote from ctsinc : Both of them make more than US$75,000 yearly playing games. How about you?

Well sadly you lost that pissing contest but I'm not going to throw my penis out there and compare wages because I'm not a douchebag to think I'm superior to someone by a sum of numbers, but anyway I stand firm on my comment. All I know is a life where I am reliant on playing video games to make a living to me would be a sad life.

Quote from ctsinc : Both of them make more than US$75,000 yearly playing games. How about you?

ha, you very well may be correct, but from the perspective of someone reading this, it comes off as immature. in your defense, the comment you were replying too was also immature, but the high road is always best taken. rule number one to present yourself respectably is to never talk salary/money, as it often projects the opposite of what you intend.

Quote from AGpennypacker : ha, you very well may be correct, but from the perspective of someone reading this, it comes off as immature. in your defense, the comment you were replying too was also immature, but the high road is always best taken. rule number one to present yourself respectably is to never talk salary/money, as it often projects the opposite of what you intend.

It was intended to sarcastically assert that a professional gamer is a job [albeit a fun job], and earns a great income. I don't take the high road; when I see a cockroach approaching me, I squash it.

Quote from Legionnaire : Well sadly you lost that pissing contest but I'm not going to throw my penis out there and compare wages because I'm not a douchebag to think I'm superior to someone by a sum of numbers, but anyway I stand firm on my comment. All I know is a life where I am reliant on playing video games to make a living to me would be a sad life.

I lost a contest? What contest did I lose? You made a condescending remark about professional gamers. I replied that the two I know both make between 75k and 100k yearly in their profession, and asked how you''re doing. You didn't answer so I can only assume you make less than them. Even if you did make more than them, how does that relate to me? You don't have any idea how much I make.

Frankly, I've met several professional gamers when I took a trip to Vegas with one of them for IPL. I don't know them personally but one thing is for sure, NONE of them looked very sad, and in fact the two I know personally seem pretty happy so far! They're making more income doing what they like than most people doing what they don't like.

Your comment about playing video games for a living being a "sad life" is just plain asinine, and obviously meant as over-compensation for your own pitiful existence. Furthermore, the entire second half of your comment screams, "I can't have that life, so I'm going to degrade it, hence I feel less upset about not having it!"

*squish*

Quote from Falqon : wow, this really shouldn't be that difficult. It will cost more because this laptop is on sale. When the new one with Haswell finally is released, it will not be on sale. Haswell is not being designed for brute force, if you really want a lower TDP then you probably aren't in the market for a 17" monster of a laptop that sounds like a vacuum cleaner, and the screen alone dictates low battery life. It will be great for 13" laptops, apples and oranges.

First of all, by your logic, it's even more worthwhile waiting. Once Haswell comes out, all the seller of high-end laptops like this one will be clearing out their old stock, so this will be even more on sale.

As for "brute force" if you think that getting more operations done per cycle with less energy is a bad thing for brute force computing, you clearly have no conception of large system design and the heat problems that they face...

To everyone complaining that this price is still 'meh', please lists deals of gaming laptops with better config than this (Be aware that apart from the specs, the screen at 400 nit brightness on this machine is mindblowing).

To people complaining here that gaming laptops are not worth it, I would say up yours...This thread is not a discussion whether to put big bucks on Gaming laptops or not. It is simply whether this is a good deals for a gaming laptop or not.

Quote from ctsinc : I lost a contest? What contest did I lose? You made a condescending remark about professional gamers. I replied that the two I know both make between 75k and 100k yearly in their profession, and asked how you''re doing. You didn't answer so I can only assume you make less than them. Even if you did make more than them, how does that relate to me? You don't have any idea how much I make. Frankly, I've met several professional gamers when I took a trip to Vegas with one of them for IPL. I don't know them personally but one thing is for sure, NONE of them looked very sad, and in fact the two I know personally seem pretty happy so far! They're making more income doing what they like than most people doing what they don't like. Your comment about playing video games for a living being a "sad life" is just plain asinine, and obviously meant as over-compensation for your own pitiful existence. Furthermore, the entire second half of your comment screams, "I can't have that life, so I'm going to degrade it, hence I feel less upset about not having it!" *squish*

Pissing contest is about your statement on professional gamer as being a happy career. If they enjoy it whatever but staring at a screen all day playing against kids for your reliance on money. Not my cup o tea in my experiences that I benefit from in life.

Quote from Legionnaire : Pissing contest is about your statement on professional gamer as being a happy career. If they enjoy it whatever but staring at a screen all day playing against kids for your reliance on money. Not my cup o tea in my experiences that I benefit from in life.

Out of curiosity what is your job?

Quote from the_m_factor : To everyone complaining that this price is still 'meh', please lists deals of gaming laptops with better config than this (Be aware that apart from the specs, the screen at 400 nit brightness on this machine is mindblowing). To people complaining here that gaming laptops are not worth it, I would say up yours...This thread is not a discussion whether to put big bucks on Gaming laptops or not. It is simply whether this is a good deals for a gaming laptop or not.

Sadly not a 17in, but the Y500 Lenovo can be had with dual GT650M video cards for about $900. In fact, the only place it falls short is the screen size.

Quote from ctsinc : Out of curiosity what is your job? Sadly not a 17in, but the Y500 Lenovo can be had with dual GT650M video cards for about $900. In fact, the only place it falls short is the screen size.

I drive around.

Quote from ctsinc : Sadly not a 17in, but the Y500 Lenovo can be had with dual GT650M video cards for about $900. In fact, the only place it falls short is the screen size.

I wouldnt say GT650M SLI is ahead in performance than GTX 675M. In fact, GTX 675M is ranked higher than GT 650 M SLI here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobi...844.0.html. In terms of benchmark scores, they are comparable.

Between the Lenovo and Samsung, Samsung had double the RAM (yes, can be upgraded, but at a cost), Blue-Ray vs DVD, 7200 rpm vs 5400 rpm HDD. Plus the screen estate and the display, which for me seals the deal in the favor of Samsung. If I am buying a gaming laptop, it will be no feather, and I am not that concerned about portability and weight. So why 15" ?

Quote from the_m_factor : I wouldnt say GT650M SLI is ahead in performance than GTX 675M. In fact, GTX 675M is ranked higher than GT 650 M SLI here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobi...844.0.html. In terms of benchmark scores, they are comparable. Between the Lenovo and Samsung, Samsung had double the RAM (yes, can be upgraded, but at a cost), Blue-Ray vs DVD, 7200 rpm vs 5400 rpm HDD. Plus the screen estate and the display, which for me seals the deal in the favor of Samsung. If I am buying a gaming laptop, it will be no feather, and I am not that concerned about portability and weight. So why 15" ?

First off, you're only looking at 2 benchmarks, both of which scored almost identically. Also, these were run with old drivers, and the new drivers improved GT650M performance up to 10%. Now as far as the drive speed is concerned, the cost is already there in the $500 price diffference, isn't it? Finally, I agree with you that the larger screen is much nicer for gaming (have a 17in myself), but saying it has more real estate is invalid, since they both have the same native resolution of 1080p. The screen real estate is the same.

Quote from Legionnaire : I drive around.

The fact that you're being so ambiguous only supports my assertion that you're just degrading professional gamers to compensate for your own displeasure in work.

Quote from ctsinc : First off, you're only looking at 2 benchmarks, both of which scored almost identically. Also, these were run with old drivers, and the new drivers improved GT650M performance up to 10%. Now as far as the drive speed is concerned, the cost is already there in the $500 price diffference, isn't it? Finally, I agree with you that the larger screen is much nicer for gaming (have a 17in myself), but saying it has more real estate is invalid, since they both have the same native resolution of 1080p. The screen real estate is the same. The fact that you're being so ambiguous only supports my assertion that you're just degrading professional gamers to compensate for your own displeasure in work.

I am a police officer. I actually enjoy my job, however I doubt you would see any interest in protecting and serving rather than playing video games for a living. Do what you got to do I suppose.

Guys.
Stop arguing.
The point has been made that gaming is a profession.
And the GT650M SLI is just under the GT675M, and above the GT670M.
For a price point perspective, the Lenovo is amazing.

Quote from Legionnaire : I am a police officer. I actually enjoy my job, however I doubt you would see any interest in protecting and serving rather than playing video games for a living. Do what you got to do I suppose.

No wonder you're a condescending douche. Besides when has a police officer ever protected or served? Police show up after a crime is over. You don't protect jack. Serve? You mean like serving legal taxation? Granted you take some criminals off the streets, but for ever 1 criminal you interact with, there are thousands of stand-up individuals that you've slighted.

I am not a professional gamer. I never said I was. I'll tell you what though, if I could make what I'm making doing that, Why not? I wonder how much you enjoy your job. I'm sure you're addicted to the power trip already. How does it go being hated by so many people though?