TD: SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB SSD - SDSSDHP-256G-G25 - $159 AC + shipping

Based on this article, this seems like a very fast SSD:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/...ndex9.html

And I know many of you drones are going to question the reliability, but those SSD reliability issues are really a thing of the past. All the major players from manufacturing, controllers, to Intel, to Microsoft, etc have figured it out. And if you say anything about MLC TLC etc, just know that you're just spreading bad information. All those issues are now fixed.

Of course people are going to only stick with their Samsung, OCZ, Intel, or whatever brand, but SSDs are a rapidly growing industry and most of what you know is probably outdated.

So is the main difference between the Ultra Plus and Extreme drives the controller? Ultra Plus = Marvell, Extreme = Sandforce?

Quote from JohnR3571 : So is the main difference between the Ultra Plus and Extreme drives the controller? Ultra Plus = Marvell, Extreme = Sandforce?

The Ultra Plus has the Marvell Controller, but comes in slower than the Samsung 840 on a # of test.

Quote from lucill22 : The Ultra Plus has the Marvell Controller, but comes in slower than the Samsung 840 on a # of test.

Well the review justainchoe linked to above says its at least on par with the 840, or even beats it in some.

Quote from JohnR3571 : Well the review justainchoe linked to above says its at least on par with the 840, or even beats it in some.

The speed difference is not as important as reliability.
This has the new marvell Controller which has a good reputation.

skip this, sandisk RMA sucks

Quote from justainchoe : Based on this article, this seems like a very fast SSD: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/...ndex9.html And I know many of you drones are going to question the reliability, but those SSD reliability issues are really a thing of the past. All the major players from manufacturing, controllers, to Intel, to Microsoft, etc have figured it out. And if you say anything about MLC TLC etc, just know that you're just spreading bad information. All those issues are now fixed. Of course people are going to only stick with their Samsung, OCZ, Intel, or whatever brand, but SSDs are a rapidly growing industry and most of what you know is probably outdated.

"TLC Issues" Aren't fixed, they are a physical limitation because of the way the NAND is manufactured, you're the one spreading bad information.

Quote from justinblaine23 : "TLC Issues" Aren't fixed, they are a physical limitation because of the way the NAND is manufactured, you're the one spreading bad information.

If you read that paragraph in context, I'm referring to the reliability issues that people are concerned about. People have a phobia that their SSDs are going to die on them in a few months or even a few years and just crap on SSD threads.

I should have been clearer. Not every issue is fixed. They never will be. I just used the "TLC this, MLC that" quote to impersonate the nay-sayers of any SSD that isn't a 840 Pro (or whatever their favorite SSD is).

Anyways, this SSD does not have a TLC controller. It's MLC.

Quote from justinblaine23 : "TLC Issues" Aren't fixed, they are a physical limitation because of the way the NAND is manufactured, you're the one spreading bad information.

TLC longevity should not be a concern for the vast majority of users doing typical activity on their system. If you're hosting a busy database, running a build lab, editing video files and other similar functions that involve a lot of disk writes, then TLC will wear out faster than MLC. It also costs a hell of a lot less and is fast, which meets the goal for bringing SSD's to the masses. The longevity of TLC should far exceed the lifespan of the device in which they are placed. I can't think of the last time I built a new system and moved the hard drive, it's one of the components that gets recycled downward, and is retired within 5-7 years tops (usually less).

By all means, continue to TC and spread FUD about TLC. It does provide amusement for some of us at least. And don't forget to wear your tinfoil hat, and logon to SD through anonymous proxies before you post. Because I'm sure the manufacturing consortium is paying a lot of us to cast aspersions on your stern warnings to the sheeple that might be fooled into buying one of these new fangled SSD's. And we might show up at your house in black suits and Suburbans to whisk you away for "re-education".

Quote from justainchoe : If you read that paragraph in context, I'm referring to the reliability issues that people are concerned about. People have a phobia that their SSDs are going to die on them in a few months or even a few years and just crap on SSD threads. I should have been clearer. Not every issue is fixed. They never will be. I just used the "TLC this, MLC that" quote to impersonate the nay-sayers of any SSD that isn't a 840 Pro (or whatever their favorite SSD is). Anyways, this SSD does not have a TLC controller. It's MLC.

The controller has nothing to do with the flash memory technology.

This *IS* an MLC device, but the controller itself is orthogonal to the flash memory.

Just missed it. I just picked this up at Microcenter tonight for $185 after tax. I was going to try to take it back or maybe raid 0 but too late.

Quote from justainchoe : Based on this article, this seems like a very fast SSD: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/...ndex9.html And I know many of you drones are going to question the reliability, but those SSD reliability issues are really a thing of the past. All the major players from manufacturing, controllers, to Intel, to Microsoft, etc have figured it out. And if you say anything about MLC TLC etc, just know that you're just spreading bad information. All those issues are now fixed. Of course people are going to only stick with their Samsung, OCZ, Intel, or whatever brand, but SSDs are a rapidly growing industry and most of what you know is probably outdated.

As far as I know, no one tested TLC durability yet in actual usage. Someone did the math - search around slashdot - and had a nice formula you can plug your numbers into to get interesting estimates. For my heavy usage scenario a 256GB MLC drive, for example, should last me at least 2000 days, and a third of that for TLC.

The deterioration rate of course varies by the user's consumption rate, but I don't see the wisdom of saving $50 by going TLC over MLC drives, just buy a proven product and let early adopters test drive this sort of stuff, no need to parrot a corporate sales pitch.

Heck, you can even get SLC/eMLC drives cheap these days, almost grabbed a 128GB eMLC drive for around $90-$100 last week, 10-15 times the durability of TLC for a fairly small price premium.

Good deal if you got it.