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Promoted 05-02-2013 at 03:56 PM View Original Post
Update: Back in stock for $597.10 after coupon code slickdeals10. Shipping starts at $17 and varies depending on zip code. Thanks yuugotserved [discuss]

Monoprice has 30" Monoprice IPS CrystalPro 2560x1600 LED Monitor with Dual-Link DVI-D port only for $648.25 - 10% off with coupon code slickdeals10 = $583.42. Shipping starts at $17 and varies depending on zip code.

Specs:
  • Resolution: 2560x1600
  • Contrast Ratio: 1,000:1 (DCR 1,000,000:1)
  • Response Time: 6ms
  • Inputs
    • Dual Link DVI-D

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Edited May 2, 2013 at 05:34 PM by widgit
30" IPS CrystalPro Monitor WQHD 2560x1600 Display Port|HDMI|DVI|Component w/Adjustable stand [monoprice.com]

30" IPS Pro Monitor WQHD 2560x1600 DVI w/Adjustable stand [monoprice.com]

27" IPS LED CrystalPro Monitor WQHD 2560x1440 [monoprice.com]

3 models above, one has all inputs and the other is just a barebones DVI. 27inch is also in stock now!(Edit: OOS again =(

Insane price for a 30inch IPS, and the panel inside is from a "LOWER GRADE" Apple Cinema/HP/Dell. These are grade A-/A panels while Apple/Dell/HP All have A/A+ panels. Get them while they're hot as the 27 inch is already sold out.

Use coupon catalog12 to lower the price noted on the top.

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#46
Quote from QuasWex View Post :
Sorry but your post is a load of misinformation. 60Hz might have been a problem for eye strain in the age of CRT monitors but this is irrelevant with LCD displays. CRTs literally flickered on and off at their refresh rate but the phosphors in LCDs remain lit constantly; there is no flickering so the refresh rate isn't even a literal term anymore. It's just an expression for how often the image is redrawn so it has nothing to do with eye strain.

120 Hz could make a difference in frames per second but even if you wanted to game at 120 FPS, the hardware needed to do so with any modern game at this resolution would be out of reach for 99.99% of gamers anyway. As for your issues with the 5ms response time; 5ms is so low it's indistinguishable to the human eye. Anyone claiming to see a difference between 5ms and 2ms is either lying or Superman. 60 Hz and 6ms is plenty adequate for this monitor and it should not be a concern of anyone debating a purchase.
In regard to what you said about CRTs., That is not true when you're talking about a moving image because a moving image still has the LCD or LED flicker at a rate of 120 Hz per second. If you're talking about a still image then I agree the LCD lights will stay on constantly without any refreshing. But we're talking about gaming here and game has plenty of moving images and that is why 120 Hz versus 60 Hz makes a difference.

There different a video cards that can pull 120 Hz frames per second. And yes they are costly but hey some people can afford that. Not to mention if you play older games than a midrange card can definitely pull over 120 frames per second. Heck I played Duke Nukem 3-D sometimes on DOS box.
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#47
I am a bit confused. I am in dire need of a monitor since an old Samsung T260HD died. It was a TN monitor and the backlighting in dark scenes and the viewing angles upset me. Anyway, I've been looking at a few IPS monitors.

This one seems pretty awesome of an upgrade - 30" for IPS with all ports I covet and 1600p. But I'm contemplating hard because with $700 I can buy the lates I7 mobo and processor as well as either the Auria available from Microcenter for $400, the Dell U2412 for $260 or the 27" Monoprice for $360.

I could also wait for the Dell u2713 to come in to a better price range when it's already at nearly $550 by way of AUS pricematch.

So what am asking is basically, is this monitor worth $717 plus tax and shipping or should I opt for something more cost-effective? or will there possible more sales, or are there options I'm not considering.

I would mainly be using them for Video Editing/ Gaming/ Connecting to a MBP/ so lack of Displayport or HDMI is inhibitory at times.

Appreciate any feedback.
Last edited by VaioGrave March 22, 2013 at 07:16 PM
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#48
Who make this for them?

Finally got some competition and hope the Dell monitor will come down in price. 30" price have not move at all in many years.
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#49
I don't know because I have a 1366 32 inch Westinghouse TV it's the UW series and it works wonderful as a PC monitor connected to HDMI. The text is very very crisp at native resolution and I've tried multiple 32 inch TVs. I believe it has something to do with the lessened antiglare coating on this as well is the VA panel used.

The key thing is that if use of resolution like 1366 native on my Westinghouse 1366 TV the text is going to actually be sharper than if you use the same resolution or a similar resolution like 720 on a 1080 P TV. I don't need to use a resolution higher than 1366 because I don't work that close to the computer because actually prefer to stand farther away to have less eyestrain. I verified this by comparing the text on a 1080 P Samsung at 1366 resolution and also at 1280 resolution, both of which cannot match my Westinghouse sharpness and clarity at 1366 resolution.

Yes usually people say IPS panels are better for crisp text, but honestly I've tried another IPS panel from JVC Emerald series 32 inch and I noticed that this Westinghouse is a lot better. I'm not sure whether that's due to the IPS versus VA issue or the more heavy antiglare coating on the JVC IPS.

At the thing is that this 32 inch cost me only 220 bucks at Costco. It is very good and I worked about 5 feet away from my TV.
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#50
Actually this looks just like the Crossover 30Q5 I bought of ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/110979398983

Few minor differences are the button location, and back panel. but the bezel/frame looks the same as with the stand. Most important difference is the price.

I'm sure most of the info in this thread will apply as well.
http://www.overclock.net/t/131603...nitor-club
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#51
Can't you get a used 30 inch apple cinema display for around the same price?
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#52
Quote from VaioGrave View Post :
I am a bit confused. I am in dire need of a monitor since an old Samsung T260HD died. It was a TN monitor and the backlighting in dark scenes and the viewing angles upset me. Anyway, I've been looking at a few IPS monitors.

This one seems pretty awesome of an upgrade - 30" for IPS with all ports I covet and 1600p. But I'm contemplating hard because with $700 I can buy the lates I7 mobo and processor as well as either the Auria available from Microcenter for $400, the Dell U2412 for $260 or the 27" Monoprice for $360.

I could also wait for the Dell u2713 to come in to a better price range when it's already at nearly $550 by way of AUS pricematch.

So what am asking is basically, is this monitor worth $717 plus tax and shipping or should I opt for something more cost-effective? or will there possible more sales, or are there options I'm not considering.

I would mainly be using them for Video Editing/ Gaming/ Connecting to a MBP/ so lack of Displayport or HDMI is inhibitory at times.

Appreciate any feedback.
It is hard to say for other people but if you have the budget, desk space and the hardware to run this I don't see how you could be disappointed in it. With a monitor this size you don't ever feel like you have the itch to upgrade unless you are looking at the Sharp 4k display that costs like $5k. So you pretty much have the best. High end IPS hasn't changed much since the past 5 years or so and isn't going to change much down the road.

Anyway I use my 30" to code, game and browse the internet. The vertical size is great and it is probably the best computer related purchase I've ever done. The only thing I would be concerned about this 30" is dead pixels and overall build quality. You can find used name brand 30" for around $800 or so pretty easily.
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#53
So many people spouting nonsense...

For one thing, there are 1000 milliseconds in a second. So 5 ms refresh rate caps the maximum number of frames drawn at 1000 / 5 = 200. With a blatant lie of 2ms listed on some panels, it supposedly refreshes 500 times a second.

Anyone who thinks they can actually see a difference between 200 fps and 500 fps is clearly insane. Please ask your Doctor if your eyes can even see that difference. Your eyes cannot. Period,

The benefit of an IPS panel is the wider viewing angel and the better color accuracy. TN panels have the absolute worst viewing angle and the worst color accuracy too.

My one question is if this is a 6, 8 or 10 bit IPS panel. (I could bother to look it up, but someone already knows. Thanks for any answers. (With the obvious exceptions of the *Expletives* who think they can see a billion fps and wish to spam the thread with that "fact".)
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#54
Quote from werewasslw View Post :
The thing about these large monitors for gaming is that if you get something with a really high resolution like 2560 and you play your games up close to enjoy the fine details of the increased resolution, the monitor was still be limited to 60 Hz refresh rate which means you will suffer eyestrain when you're up close with such a low refresh rate. This is why really want to see 120 Hz monitors in the size of 30 inches or above come down in price and be more common. People don't realize the difference that 120 Hz and 60 Hz makes not only on the aesthetics of the game graphics, but also the comfortability of the eyes.

So that you will be forced to sit or stand farther away from your monitor, but that eliminates the advantage of getting a high-resolution monitor. In this case you would be fine with a 1366 720 P monitor because you won't be able to tell the differences in pixel density when you are that far away. I'm talking like 5 feet away or father.

So one day I will buy one of these monitors when they are cheaper in price but also when one of these feature a 120 Hz native refresh rate that you can game on without input lag. I'm not talking about the cheap interpellation that's found on TV sets which will give you 120 Hz at the expense of unplayable input lag for gamers.

Oh and not to mention if you're sitting up close then motion blur/ghosting is an issue so if you get an IPS screen the lowest is 5 ms which for me still is not enough compared to the smoothness of plasma, CRT, or 2 ms TN panels.
Whats the best gaming monitor in your opinion?
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#55
Quote from OmniNegro View Post :
So many people spouting nonsense...

For one thing, there are 1000 milliseconds in a second. So 5 ms refresh rate caps the maximum number of frames drawn at 1000 / 5 = 200. With a blatant lie of 2ms listed on some panels, it supposedly refreshes 500 times a second.

Anyone who thinks they can actually see a difference between 200 fps and 500 fps is clearly insane. Please ask your Doctor if your eyes can even see that difference. Your eyes cannot. Period,

The benefit of an IPS panel is the wider viewing angel and the better color accuracy. TN panels have the absolute worst viewing angle and the worst color accuracy too.

My one question is if this is a 6, 8 or 10 bit IPS panel. (I could bother to look it up, but someone already knows. Thanks for any answers. (With the obvious exceptions of the *Expletives* who think they can see a billion fps and wish to spam the thread with that "fact".)
Lol talk about nonsense.
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#56
Quote from OmniNegro View Post :
So many people spouting nonsense...

For one thing, there are 1000 milliseconds in a second. So 5 ms refresh rate caps the maximum number of frames drawn at 1000 / 5 = 200. With a blatant lie of 2ms listed on some panels, it supposedly refreshes 500 times a second.

Anyone who thinks they can actually see a difference between 200 fps and 500 fps is clearly insane. Please ask your Doctor if your eyes can even see that difference. Your eyes cannot. Period,

The benefit of an IPS panel is the wider viewing angel and the better color accuracy. TN panels have the absolute worst viewing angle and the worst color accuracy too.

My one question is if this is a 6, 8 or 10 bit IPS panel. (I could bother to look it up, but someone already knows. Thanks for any answers. (With the obvious exceptions of the *Expletives* who think they can see a billion fps and wish to spam the thread with that "fact".)
There are no 6 bit IPS panels at this size and I don't think there are true 10 bit IPS panels either. 10 bit is achieved via 8 bit + dithering. But I can guarantee you that this is at least 8 bit.

The Crossover 30Q5 is 10 bit so I would assume the same for this monitor.
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#57
Carl Sagan could see billions and billions...
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#58
Quote from OmniNegro View Post :
So many people spouting nonsense...

For one thing, there are 1000 milliseconds in a second. So 5 ms refresh rate caps the maximum number of frames drawn at 1000 / 5 = 200. With a blatant lie of 2ms listed on some panels, it supposedly refreshes 500 times a second.

Anyone who thinks they can actually see a difference between 200 fps and 500 fps is clearly insane. Please ask your Doctor if your eyes can even see that difference. Your eyes cannot. Period,

The benefit of an IPS panel is the wider viewing angel and the better color accuracy. TN panels have the absolute worst viewing angle and the worst color accuracy too.

My one question is if this is a 6, 8 or 10 bit IPS panel. (I could bother to look it up, but someone already knows. Thanks for any answers. (With the obvious exceptions of the *Expletives* who think they can see a billion fps and wish to spam the thread with that "fact".)
Yes you can tell the difference between 2 ms and 5 ms on a moving image because of the longer trails "ghosting" on the monitor with higher latency. See the thing is not to be able to see the difference of 3 ms, but rather be able to see the trail left behind in those milliseconds. When you're moving your mouse really fast in 3 ms you actually move quite a bit distance say like 20 pixels. That means after 3 ms, you'll notice a faint ghosting of 20 pixels.

So the key in this argument is not that you can differentiate between 5 ms and 2 ms based on simply the time difference, because I agree that the milliseconds is not possible to humanly distinguish. However a visual trail of 20 pixels for example is able to be detected by the human eye. And that is the key thing and that's why a difference of only 3 ms can be detectable on a TV screen with moving images.


This is also why response time differences is more noticeable on moving images of fighter colors on dark backgrounds. It's because the trails are more noticeable.

And also when were talking about response time we're not talking about input lag. Many people get confused because of the names. Input lag is when you move your mouse and the movement on the screen matches your hand movement. But response time refers to the changing colors of the individual pixels on screen, irregardless of whether there is any user input.
Last edited by adaweawe March 22, 2013 at 07:47 PM
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#59
Quote from 93702-1314 View Post :
Can't you get a used 30 inch apple cinema display for around the same price?

cheapest i've found on ebay was $749 for a refurb and $769 used (with some cracks on the case).
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#60
Stole this pic from Crossover 30Q5 thread at overclock.net

http://www.overclock.net/content/...d/1199044/

Size difference between a 30 and a 27. The one in the middle is a 27 Dell U2711 and the one on the right is a 30 Dell U3011
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