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Nest Learning Thermostat (1st Generation) EXPIRED

calistyle 48,495 March 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM in Home & Home Improvement (7) More Amazon Deals
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Promoted 03-25-2013 at 08:15 AM View Original Post
Amazon.com has Nest Learning Thermostat 1st Generation (T100577) for $179 with free shipping. Thanks calistyle

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Edited March 25, 2013 at 02:26 AM by calistyle
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#76
I've always been interested in these and curious if this would save me more money than a regular programmable thermostat. I work a normal 9-5 and my hours are pretty constant. My home time is pretty constant as well with the exception of weekends when I might leave during the day to go shopping.

I don't see where this would really learn my schedule more and how does that work with pets running around the house? I've always thought these were neat and my geek factor likes it, but not sure I would really see any savings from this. If anyone with pets could comment that it doesn't keep it up and running would be appreciated.
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Quote from dba_tech_99 View Post :
So you are saying this is not good for heat pumps? Seems like the same issue would exist for any other type of thermostat controlling a heat pump. If the temp drops more than 2 deg below the setting, the aux heat (heat strips) are automatically turned on. I have been setting my thermostat to shut down about 10deg lower when we are away during the day and about 7 deg lower at night during sleep. Would it just be better to run it all of the time at the same temp so the strips will not have to kick on during the phase to bring the temps back up to normal? Is there any way to get the heat pumps to ignore aux heat when the temp dips below more than 2 deg off the setting?
He is wrong. Check the nest website for more info on this.
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Quote from yoopitup View Post :
You're right. I don't understand the product. Which is why I was asking. Why in the world would anyone with a generic programmable thermostat ever have to "get up to go change the temp" while in bed?
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I guess your life, along with the climate and weather where you live is perfect and 1 set program for each day (even on an individual basis) is all you need.

A+ you win @ life.
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KNOWELDGE IS POWER. (no pun intended)
what's 'KNOWELDGE'?
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#80
I've been reading all the arguments for and against the nest but I don't see any reason to pay the high price for a nest when there are cheaper thermostats that do the same thing for example the 3M-50 which someone mentioned earlier ?

Other than looking cool what advantage does the nest have over other remote controllable thermostats to justify the price ?
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Quote from cisach View Post :
He is wrong. Check the nest website for more info on this.
The strips kick in to help the heat pump out when you call for a lot of heat ( usually 4 degrees from ambient ) strips are electric so it's not as effiicient. In extreme cold, heat pumps require the aid of the strips no matter what.

The nest lets you customize the use of aux heat in conjunction with the the temps outside (since it gets this from the internet/wifi)

For example,you can adjust settings so say: if 55 for higher, do not use heat strips. I believe in this case, if it's 60 outside and you adjust heat from 65 to 69, heat strips will not kick on.

Quote from woodygg View Post :
what's 'KNOWELDGE'?
you should be smart enough to understand my mistake. But incase you aren't, fixed.
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#82
Quote from woodygg View Post :
what's 'KNOWELDGE'?
If, as the GP suggests, Knowledge is power then we get the following:

Knowledge = Power = Watts = V^2 / R.

Therefore Knowledge = V^2 / R.
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Quote from DmoRulez View Post :
I've always been interested in these and curious if this would save me more money than a regular programmable thermostat. I work a normal 9-5 and my hours are pretty constant. My home time is pretty constant as well with the exception of weekends when I might leave during the day to go shopping.

I don't see where this would really learn my schedule more and how does that work with pets running around the house? I've always thought these were neat and my geek factor likes it, but not sure I would really see any savings from this. If anyone with pets could comment that it doesn't keep it up and running would be appreciated.
If your schedule is extremely regular then it won't save you a whole lot over a traditional programmable assuming you have it dialed in properly. It does have a few small features like Airwave that will run the fan a little longer after kicking off the furnace/compressor to get the most out of residual heat in the air handler (assuming humidity is low enough), but that isn't completely exclusive to Nest.

The Nest proximity sensors are capable of discerning pets from people.

Remote access is definitely the killer app though. It's great for days where you might only intend to be out of the house for an hour for lunch, but your lady friend ends up turning the day into an 8-hour shopping excursion. It's definitely a nice feature to have. I don't even touch the thermostat anymore; I use the website to control my thermostat if I'm hot/cold in my home office, and leave my phone on my nightstand to make any adjustments if I feel the need.
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Quote from hautedog View Post :
I've been reading all the arguments for and against the nest but I don't see any reason to pay the high price for a nest when there are cheaper thermostats that do the same thing for example the 3M-50 which someone mentioned earlier ?

Other than looking cool what advantage does the nest have over other remote controllable thermostats to justify the price ?
Think about it, all the rebates given for this BY POWER COMPAINES suggests that it actually works
http://nest.com/saving-energy/
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#85
These are a great idea, but why in the hell would you use optical recognition for auto-away?

The thing has wifi. Phone in range? User is home.

Rather not have to walk all the way down the hallway and wave to the thing to make sure Nest knows we're still around.
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#86
It helps save energy regarless of a regular sechdule or not.

Power compaines are giving these huge rebates (or even free) b/c it helps homes save energy/$$.

It's just me and my wife, we both works 9-5's and over 13 months, I've kept track of usage vs the previous 3 years in the home ( i've kept track of KWH and $$). It's paid for itslef and then some.
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#87
When they say it works in 75% of homes, what specifically makes it not work in the 25%?
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Quote from Strmtrper6 View Post :
These are a great idea, but why in the hell would you use optical recognition for auto-away?

I think Opitcal (IR) so it can tell between humans and pets. Pets are on the ground, Humans walk..


The thing has wifi. Phone in range? User is home.

Rather not have to walk all the way down the hallway and wave to the thing to make sure Nest knows we're still around.
everyone in the house may not have a phone... and to your own arguemnt

Lol, if you have a phone, why would you need to walk all the way down to the nest itself, change it from your phone!

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When they say it works in 75% of homes, what specifically makes it not work in the 25%?
the compatiabilty check is in the wiki
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Quote from uEih View Post :
When they say it works in 75% of homes, what specifically makes it not work in the 25%?
Different types of systems that may or may not be common in certain geographic areas.

-Whole home humidifiers
-Whole home dehumidifiers
-Radiant under floor heating
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When they say it works in 75% of homes, what specifically makes it not work in the 25%?
I believe when they say that, they are referring to the wiring using for the HVAC system. The 2nd Gen says it works in 95% of all homes and the difference is that the 2nd gen supports more wiring configurations.
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