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calistyle 11,134 48,502 March 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM in Home & Home Improvement (7) More Amazon Deals
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Promoted 03-25-2013 by brisar at 08:15 AM View Original Post
Amazon.com has Nest Learning Thermostat 1st Generation (T100577) for $179 with free shipping. Thanks calistyle

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Edited March 25, 2013 at 02:26 AM by calistyle
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Last Edited by cgrady March 26, 2013 at 12:16 AM
See if you will NEED the 2nd Generation Nest:
http://widgets.nest.com/compatibility/

Warranty:
1st Gen Nest carries a 5 year warranty
2nd Gen is 2 years

Check your local electric company for rebates. In my state, they offer a $100 rebate for this.

MA/NH gas companies also include a $100 rebate (up to 2 per household) for this: http://www.gasnetworks.com/effici...Rebate.pdf

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For MA and RI residents National Grid has a rebate of 50% off up to $100.

So after rebate the price comes to $89.50 which is SUPER SLICK.

https://www1.nationalgridus.com/W...tRI-RI-RES
https://www1.nationalgridus.com/W...tMA-MA-RES

Check your local residential gas or electricity supplier for similar rebates.

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Ameren Illinois Residential Heating customers can get a $25 rebate: http://www.actonenergy.com/portals/0/forms/rebate-form-stat.pdf [actonenergy.com]

Ameren Missouri appears to allow $25, two per household.
Form: http://www.ameren.com/sites/AUE/U...at2013.pdf


People's Gas or North Shore Gas Illinois customers can get a $50 rebate (up to 2 per household)
http://www.peoplesgasdelivery.com/home/pdf/rebates_residential_hvac.pdf [peoplesgasdelivery.com]

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#46
Good grief, first $10 light bulbs, and now $200 thermostats. Have people lost all sense?

Be forewarned if you have a heat pump - this thing does not distinguish between heat produced by the pump and the supplemental electric strips. So, if you let this thermostat cut the temperature back 4 degrees when you leave or sleep, when it's time to come back up to the original temperature, the very expensive to operate electric strips are going to come on. Most likely, it will cost more than it saves if you let it reduce the temperature more than 2 degrees with a heat pump.
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I had to patch the wall and repaint to get the nest by itself but there was no way I was going to use the trim plates. I love the "port hole" look!
Ditto. Had some leftover paint and had to patch up a few anchor holes. But so worth it.
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#48
What kind of thermostat would you guys recommend for someone who only need it for HEATING....we don't have central AC unit in the house.
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Then you don't understand the product. In case you aren't just a poverty troll: http://nest.com/saving-energy/

Remote access. AUTO Away.
Those 2 features alone make the 'stat pay for itself in real $$ as well as convenience.

I have 13 months with it and it's one of the most satisfying "home improvement" upgrades.

The fact that while in bed I don't have to get up to go change temp is worth everything in the world.
You're right. I don't understand the product. Which is why I was asking. But apparently that makes me a "poverty troll". Or maybe you don't understand how to program a generic programmable thermostat. Why in the world would anyone with a generic programmable thermostat ever have to "get up to go change the temp" while in bed?

Remote access sounds like a nice feature, which is why I was considering this product. But there are a lot of wifi thermostats that are a lot cheaper. Auto-away sounds like a terrible feature to me. I don't want to come home to a house that is too hot or too cold every time I leave the house during the day.
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#50
I have had a first gen for a year. Works great.
I had a hiccup with mine. I first made sure it would work with my system (website will tell you based on your HVAC and wires in wall) and it did all summer and half of winter. Suddenly it stopped kicking in the gas ignition but would run the furnace fan. House wasn't heating.
Luckily I kept the old thermostat and temporarily rewired it. Nest sent a local technician with a resistor to jump two spots on the furnace circuit board and it worked for a day. After that back to no ignition and fan running.
I decided to then run a new set of thermostat wires. I ran a set of 8, I previously had a set of 4. I now have a control C wire and it works perfect. I see now that nest has updated their wiring diagram schematics to require a control wire for my system's layout. Luckily for me, I have an unfinished basement so it could have been a lot worse getting to the furnace.
Not a huge pain, but to be safe, I would recommend that you have a control wire available.
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Quote from jonthompson View Post :
Atleast MA, and a bunch of other states - offer a $100 rebate on these (up to 2) so you would get it for $80. (Gas customers only - sorry!)

MA rebate
http://www.gasnetworks.com/effici...Rebate.pdf
Wow, what an awesome incentive. I checked locally and my utility company here in Arkansas offers a rebate... but it's only $25, and must be accompanied by a new furnace install, and the thermostat must be installed by the dealer. lol.

I did, however, find a form that is for up to 3 low flow showerheads and 3 faucet aerators for free, which I filled out... should arrive in 6-8 weeks. Thanks for getting me on their website poking around!
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You don't NEED two unless you want them to work together. 1 Nest will work fine if that's what you want. It will in no way be able to control the other one.


I would try to ask your landlord to do the upgrade!
OK. sorry, but not sure I see here. I have two heat pumps with thermostats on separate sides of the house. If I want the nest to control both units, I would have to get two nests. Seems like one would be pointless if you have a dual unit setup like mine.
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The nice thing about this thermostat is that it will tell you how many -hours- the furnace ran each month, and you get a monthly report in your email. (So you can compare run time over the years vs. just cost from your gas bill).
then what do I do with that information?
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#54
I think the real use of this is for people who can't figure out how to set their existing programmable thermo. Is that many people in 2013? Honeywell units are not THAT hard to figure out.

Based on all the buzz I've read, most Nest buyers are techie people who think this is cool... and those same people probably had NO trouble doing old-school thermostat programming.
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#55
I'm basically a NEST guru (Proof: I installed one in my brother's house) so trust me when I say BUY this ! you WON'T be disappointed!
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Be forewarned if you have a heat pump - this thing does not distinguish between heat produced by the pump and the supplemental electric strips. So, if you let this thermostat cut the temperature back 4 degrees when you leave or sleep, when it's time to come back up to the original temperature, the very expensive to operate electric strips are going to come on. Most likely, it will cost more than it saves if you let it reduce the temperature more than 2 degrees with a heat pump.
Isn't the precisely the situation that the Heat Pump Balance feature [nest.com] is intended to address? I've been considering getting a Nest solely for this capability.
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#57
Very tempting to a gadget lover like myself, but I am guessing it's not worth it for me. I average $121 year-round for gas/electric bill, for a four bedroom, two story house in Iowa. Auto away feature looks like it wouldn't work properly in my house either, as the thermostat is located in the rarely-used formal dining room, on a wall that doesn't see into any other rooms.

Just throwing this out there as something to think about if you already have reasonable energy bills w/a programmable thermostat.
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did you log in using high definition?
only if using Android Big Grin
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Anyone aware of rebates for this from Puget Sound Energy or Snohomish County PUD? I haven't been able to find any but sure would be nice if there was!
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Quote from itwonder View Post :
Good grief, first $10 light bulbs, and now $200 thermostats. Have people lost all sense?

Be forewarned if you have a heat pump - this thing does not distinguish between heat produced by the pump and the supplemental electric strips. So, if you let this thermostat cut the temperature back 4 degrees when you leave or sleep, when it's time to come back up to the original temperature, the very expensive to operate electric strips are going to come on. Most likely, it will cost more than it saves if you let it reduce the temperature more than 2 degrees with a heat pump.
So you are saying this is not good for heat pumps? Seems like the same issue would exist for any other type of thermostat controlling a heat pump. If the temp drops more than 2 deg below the setting, the aux heat (heat strips) are automatically turned on. I have been setting my thermostat to shut down about 10deg lower when we are away during the day and about 7 deg lower at night during sleep. Would it just be better to run it all of the time at the same temp so the strips will not have to kick on during the phase to bring the temps back up to normal? Is there any way to get the heat pumps to ignore aux heat when the temp dips below more than 2 deg off the setting?
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