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Nest Learning Thermostat (1st Generation) EXPIRED

calistyle 11,134 48,502 March 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM in Home & Home Improvement (7) More Amazon Deals
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Promoted 03-25-2013 at 08:15 AM View Original Post
Amazon.com has Nest Learning Thermostat 1st Generation (T100577) for $179 with free shipping. Thanks calistyle

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Edited March 25, 2013 at 02:26 AM by calistyle
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Last Edited by cgrady March 26, 2013 at 12:16 AM
See if you will NEED the 2nd Generation Nest:
http://widgets.nest.com/compatibility/

Warranty:
1st Gen Nest carries a 5 year warranty
2nd Gen is 2 years

Check your local electric company for rebates. In my state, they offer a $100 rebate for this.

MA/NH gas companies also include a $100 rebate (up to 2 per household) for this: http://www.gasnetworks.com/effici...Rebate.pdf

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For MA and RI residents National Grid has a rebate of 50% off up to $100.

So after rebate the price comes to $89.50 which is SUPER SLICK.

https://www1.nationalgridus.com/W...tRI-RI-RES
https://www1.nationalgridus.com/W...tMA-MA-RES

Check your local residential gas or electricity supplier for similar rebates.

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Ameren Illinois Residential Heating customers can get a $25 rebate: http://www.actonenergy.com/portals/0/forms/rebate-form-stat.pdf [actonenergy.com]

Ameren Missouri appears to allow $25, two per household.
Form: http://www.ameren.com/sites/AUE/U...at2013.pdf


People's Gas or North Shore Gas Illinois customers can get a $50 rebate (up to 2 per household)
http://www.peoplesgasdelivery.com/home/pdf/rebates_residential_hvac.pdf [peoplesgasdelivery.com]

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#61
Quote from johnpkelly81 View Post :
Not a huge pain, but to be safe, I would recommend that you have a control wire available.
Well that's a bummer. The fact that it (at first glance) seems to not require a C wire is one of the big reasons I was considering the Nest over cheaper alternatives.
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Quote from Bemis View Post :
Very tempting to a gadget lover like myself, but I am guessing it's not worth it for me. I average $121 year-round for gas/electric bill, for a four bedroom, two story house in Iowa.
I live in Ankeny, IA and I was unsure if I thought it would pay for itself. I also have a two story with the thermostat located in the formal dining room.
The nice thing about it is you don't leave/get off work at the same time every day like us. Or if you are active on the weekends and travel, go to games, shopping, etc.
It also will run the fan after the air conditioner to keep circulating cool air, and save some energy.
Mid-American (if you have it, like I do) will give you a rebate. I had no problems with getting it.
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Quote from jnthornh View Post :
Well that's a bummer. The fact that it (at first glance) seems to not require a C wire is one of the big reasons I was considering the Nest over cheaper alternatives.
Yeah, luckily I'm fairly mechanical, so I didn't mind running a new set of thermostat wires, and I was able to buy it by the foot from Lowes.
I really taped up the new wires to the old and pulled from the basement.
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#64
Does this keep the fan on for few mins longer (for Heating) before the desired temp is reached?
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#65
I bought a 2nd generation Nest a few months ago and I have to say that I am overall, a bit disappointed with the device. It has the worst user interface I have ever seen (for initial setup). I have a very long WiFi password and I spent 15 minutes spinning the wheel typing it in only for it to fail to connect. Turns out the stock software could not handle a password that long. I had to tether it to my phone (short password), download the update and then try again. I almost returned the stupid thing before I even got it working.

Also, I have to say that there is so much potential for this device that just isn't being exploited. I don't know if the Nest people just haven't thought of the innovative ways to use this device, or if they just haven't developed software to do it. I do like the auto-away and the fact that I can program it remotely. There are times where I go out of town for weeks on end and its nice to know that the pipes aren't going to freeze in some snap cold spell, or that I am not going to come home to a 100 degree house because I had to turn the unit off completely while on vacation.
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Does this keep the fan on for few mins longer (for Heating) before the desired temp is reached?
Along that vein can you set how long the fans run after AC compressor shuts off? My Honeywell runs 15 minutes with no compressor and in South Florida that humidifies the air to 60%+. I want to be able to have it shut off 5 minutes or less after the compressor shuts off.
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Any other deals in MA? I see National Grid (electric) does give $25 per thermostat.
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Quote from pun View Post :
Does this keep the fan on for few mins longer (for Heating) before the desired temp is reached?
I don't know about the first gen, but the second gen does keep the heat / air running for a few minutes after they turn the furnace / compressor off. The idea being to use the last bit of cold / hot air in the system rather than let it go to waste. I can't say how much that actually saves me, but it does seem to work. It took about 2 weeks for it to learn how to do that properly.
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Quote from woodygg View Post :
then what do I do with that information?
by knowing how many hours the furnace runs, you can see how a 1° drop will change the run time of the furnace. You can also know if the gas company is ripping you off or if there is a leak (or efficiency drop) if you keep track of run time. For example you can see how many hours the furnace ran in a 24 hr period, and check the gas meter change in that same 24 hours.
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Quote from itwonder View Post :
Good grief, first $10 light bulbs, and now $200 thermostats. Have people lost all sense?

Be forewarned if you have a heat pump - this thing does not distinguish between heat produced by the pump and the supplemental electric strips. So, if you let this thermostat cut the temperature back 4 degrees when you leave or sleep, when it's time to come back up to the original temperature, the very expensive to operate electric strips are going to come on. Most likely, it will cost more than it saves if you let it reduce the temperature more than 2 degrees with a heat pump.
WRONG WRONG WRONG.It's called AUX HEAT and the NEST is aware of it. In usage history, it tells you in light red or blood red if it was heat pump or aux.
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The AUTO goes to a preset range. Really, if 75 is comfortable let's say, you want ot to run and maintain 75 while you are away??!! Why not have it to go 77, and then kick on when you get back and it's back down to 75 shortly.

if you like wasting money and electricity, yeah, go for it.

Quote from yoopitup View Post :
You're right. I don't understand the product. Which is why I was asking. But apparently that makes me a "poverty troll". Or maybe you don't understand how to program a generic programmable thermostat. Why in the world would anyone with a generic programmable thermostat ever have to "get up to go change the temp" while in bed?

Remote access sounds like a nice feature, which is why I was considering this product. But there are a lot of wifi thermostats that are a lot cheaper. Auto-away sounds like a terrible feature to me. I don't want to come home to a house that is too hot or too cold every time I leave the house during the day.
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Quote from johnpkelly81 View Post :
I live in Ankeny, IA and I was unsure if I thought it would pay for itself. I also have a two story with the thermostat located in the formal dining room.
The nice thing about it is you don't leave/get off work at the same time every day like us. Or if you are active on the weekends and travel, go to games, shopping, etc.
It also will run the fan after the air conditioner to keep circulating cool air, and save some energy.
Mid-American (if you have it, like I do) will give you a rebate. I had no problems with getting it.
I have definitely not "ruled out" getting it. I do have Mid-American (live in Johnston) and was just looking over rebates. Seems the most tempting is actually the tank-less water heater; as I know a licensed plumber who would install it free of charge.

The "weekend" argument you make is actually what makes it most tempting. My programmable does run the fan to keep circulating cool air.
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#73
I have a Gen 2 that we got last summer and I love it - it's the way a house climate should be controlled. Rarely do I need to think about settings or heat as the thing does it all for me after the first week or two of learning.
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then what do I do with that information?
Knowledge Is Power. (no pun intended)
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Quote from UncleRunkle View Post :
With all that being said, I decided to go with Generation 1 for the price/warranty and the fact that I will just use my Aprilaire whole house humidifier which has its own humidity regulator with actual humidity level % settings.

Thanks, I have an Aprilaire as well - picked up the Gen 1 - Reps!
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