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HP ProLiant N54L G7 Server System: AMD Turion II 2.2GHz CPU, 2GB DDR3, 250GB HDD, 150W Power Supply EXPIRED

calistyle 48,495 March 25, 2013 at 01:29 AM in Free Shipping (5) More Newegg Deals
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Promoted 03-25-2013 at 11:57 AM View Original Post
Newegg.com has HP ProLiant N54L 7 Server System AMD Turion II 2GB (704941-001) for $299.99 - $15 w/ promo code HPN5413US - $50 rebate = $234.99 with free shipping. Thanks calistyle & pcguy33144
  • AMD Turion II Model Neo N54L 2.20 GHz
  • 2GB DDR3
  • 250GB 7200RPM HDD
  • 150W Power Supply
Price Research: Our research indicates that this HP ProLiant N54L G7 Server System is $110 lower (31% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting at $360 - brisar

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#46
Quote from utekineir View Post :
get someones old computer, throw drives in it, $150 isn't going very far in terms of off the shelf solutions.



Link a 4 bay diskless nas that isn't a steaming turd for $250. That range you'll have the shit seagate black armor, low end/obsolete net gear, and maybe some iomega junk.

You arent getting a current synology or qnap in a 4 bay for that price.

How many drive bays do most <$300 desktops have? and at what sort of power consumption?
As many bays as you wish, I would say Average, 8 bays possibly.

What is the point of a NAS that can't even stream data properly??!?!

I just don't see the point in dropping 300 into this.
At least not front page material, it might be nice for some, but its not a deal. its 4 year old tech.

Also, who cares about what kind of power consumption?!?!
Any computer without dedicated video can run on sub 200 watts...honestly...
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#47
Quote from ztkraptor View Post :
As many bays as you wish, I would say Average, 8 bays possibly.

What is the point of a NAS that can't even stream data properly??!?!

I just don't see the point in dropping 300 into this.
At least not front page material, it might be nice for some, but its not a deal. its 4 year old tech.

Also, who cares about what kind of power consumption?!?!
Any computer without dedicated video can run on sub 200 watts...honestly...
1) Price it all out, show us your 8 bay nas box with lower power consumption for <$300.

2) Not everyone wants to transcode.

3) Ask your mother how much her electric bill runs?

Idle consumption is the important number when dealing with a nas for home use,

my i5 sandy bridge idles around 80+ watts with gpu in or out, my old mac pro idled around 180 watts, theres also an old hp phenom tri core here that idles around 90 watts, my i7 mac mini idles around 14.

Heres some math.

( idle watts x 24 x 365)/1000= killowatts consumed in a year, multiply that by your price per killowatt.

As an example my old mac pro at my electric rate was over $220 a year to leave on as a sever, the mini is about $20 a year.

Thats $200 saved to do the same thing, the sandy i5 or phenom boxes would still have nearly a hundred dollar difference annually.

Its kind of nice when a piece of hardware pays for itself over its lifespan with power savings. Assuming that little hp box idles in the 20-30 watt range it should pay for itself vs a desktop computer adapted to be a nas during its lifespan.
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#48
Quote from utekineir View Post :
1) Price it all out, show us your 8 bay nas box with lower power consumption for <$300.

2) Not everyone wants to transcode.

3) Ask your mother how much her electric bill runs?

Idle consumption is the important number when dealing with a nas for home use,

my i5 sandy bridge idles around 80+ watts with gpu in or out, my old mac pro idled around 180 watts, theres also an old hp phenom tri core here that idles around 90 watts, my i7 mac mini idles around 14.

Heres some math.

( idle watts x 24 x 365)/1000= killowatts consumed in a year, multiply that by your price per killowatt.

As an example my old mac pro at my electric rate was over $220 a year to leave on as a sever, the mini is about $20 a year.

Thats $200 saved to do the same thing, the sandy i5 or phenom boxes would still have nearly a hundred dollar difference annually.

Its kind of nice when a piece of hardware pays for itself over its lifespan with power savings. Assuming that little hp box idles in the 20-30 watt range it should pay for itself vs a desktop computer adapted to be a nas during its lifespan.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M94I

There you go.
Calculated usage is approx 160ish watts.
Enjoy.
EDIT:

Regarding your i5 IDLE wattage?
How did you manage to calculate that?!?
The TDP of the proc is 95W total.
Somehow you are on idle drawing 80+?
http://ark.intel.com/products/522...o-3_70-GHz

http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...2831-7.htm

Please stop making numbers up, thank you.

EDIT2:

http://www.servethehome.com/amd-a...pu-review/
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#49
Quote from ztkraptor View Post :
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M94I

There you go.
Calculated usage is approx 160ish watts.
Enjoy.

build something <30 watts at idle.
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#50
for those who own this can you post kill-a-watt power consumption when it's on idle?
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#51
Quote from ztkraptor View Post :
Regarding your i5 IDLE wattage?
How did you manage to calculate that?!?
The TDP of the proc is 95W total.
Somehow you are on idle drawing 80+?
http://ark.intel.com/products/522...o-3_70-GHz

http://www.tomshardware.com/revie...2831-7.htm

Please stop making numbers up, thank you.
Real world numbers sir.

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/im...mage_A.jpg

Do you understand that tdp is a figure given to represent the cooling demands of a chip under load, not at idle?
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#52
Can the threadcrappers just thumbs down and move on, or do you do this for every FP deal that you aren't interested in buying because you don't have a use for it?
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#53
Quote from utekineir View Post :
build something <30 watts at idle.
I just showed you a system that was around 40 idle.

TDP can give a good indication of what the Power draw will be, its usually a multiplier of about 1.3-1.4
on MAX LOAD.

Also, you said your power bill was 220 a year for your 180 watt box?
You might want to find a cheaper electric supplier if you are paying 14c/kwh

Don't be upset that I have correctly provided you with a system much better than this box.

This would be around 160 FULL LOAD power draw. Which is a very very good system. Well id say 180 with about 4-6 drives in it.

Its about 40 watts idle.
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#54
Quote from ztkraptor View Post :
There is no purpose for it..
I'm not trying to be a dick.
But this is an overpriced piece of garbage.
It can't even do 720p
What would you possibly use it for?
You can buy a NAS that is a pure NAS if you wanted network storage.

Or you could just use a cheap desktop to provide much more than this machine.

Its not about how crappy this is..
Its about how crappy it is on the front page..
How many HTPCs and PCs are you streaming information to all at the same time?
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#55
Quote from ztkraptor View Post :
I just showed you a system that was around 40 idle.

TDP can give a good indication of what the Power draw will be, its usually a multiplier of about 1.3-1.4
on MAX LOAD.

Also, you said your power bill was 220 a year for your 180 watt box?
You might want to find a cheaper electric supplier if you are paying 14c/kwh

Don't be upset that I have correctly provided you with a system much better than this box.

This would be around 160 FULL LOAD power draw. Which is a very very good system. Well id say 180 with about 4-6 drives in it.

Its about 40 watts idle.
First of all, I don't own this machine, just want to input my analysis.
The TDP thing is quite complicated from engineering standpoint, but most ppl can get pretty accurate estimate number from website like Toms and anandtech. So yes TDP 100W processor can draw more than that under full load, but I think the other guy's point is that 2 processor having the same TDP can have quite some different idle load.
Second, 14c/KWH is quite reasonable if that person is living in NE state or Cali, you can check the statistic online, the thing is not everyone live in those cheap electricity state, and not everyone are qualified for low income rate, and most ppl pay electricity at a tiered level, may be the guy's house use lots of electricity because it has 6ppl living in it, so it bumps the maeginal rate to 20c/KWH, so by that point every W idle counts.... Also, most ppl cannot change electricity provider...
Some ppl like me also like OEM's case built quality.... I personally are very energy concerned, so I try to save energy anywhere possible reasonably, and I will even pay for a product that cost me more in a long run, if it saves energy.
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#56
Quote from g725s View Post :
How many HTPCs and PCs are you streaming information to all at the same time?
usually around 4 daily.

I also have a few virtual servers running on it at the same time for various things.

Quote from lemonade View Post :
First of all, I don't own this machine, just want to input my analysis.
The TDP thing is quite complicated from engineering standpoint, but most ppl can get pretty accurate estimate number from website like Toms and anandtech. So yes TDP 100W processor can draw more than that under full load, but I think the other guy's point is that 2 processor having the same TDP can have quite some different idle load.
Second, 14c/KWH is quite reasonable if that person is living in NE state or Cali, you can check the statistic online, the thing is not everyone live in those cheap electricity state, and not everyone are qualified for low income rate, and most ppl pay electricity at a tiered level, may be the guy's house use lots of electricity because it has 6ppl living in it, so it bumps the maeginal rate to 20c/KWH, so by that point every W idle counts.... Also, most ppl cannot change electricity provider...
Some ppl like me also like OEM's case built quality.... I personally are very energy concerned, so I try to save energy anywhere possible reasonably, and I will even pay for a product that cost me more in a long run, if it saves energy.
EDIT: My bad, it appears energy costs are quite high in some areas.
http://www.eia.gov/electricity/mo...epmt_5_6_a

But assuming 50% at 100% load.
We can calculate an energy cost for the build I provided as:
You are looking at around 280 dollars a year in energy costs. @ 15c/KWH
And Its highly doubtful there will be 50% full load.


I have no problem with people wasting their money on it. It just is that this shouldn't be front page news. Because its not a "deal" its old tech for a high cost. You can do it for far less yourself. And if you are setting up Media servers and the likes, you best not have an excuse that "I don't know how to build one"
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#57
Quote from Deal Diwana View Post :
Under $300 (no HDDs). My plan is to use this as my NAS also so I'd like at least 4 drive bays and small form factor, low power consumption, may be a video card for HDMI out.
how comfortable are you bulding a HTPC?.
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#58
I've got a N40L with 8 drives + 1 SSD (OS) for a total of 30tb usable (parity storage space).

They are great machines.
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Quote from calistyle View Post :
thanks for the promo code pcguy33144
Please explain how this is a good deal...
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I have no problem with people wasting their money on it. It just is that this shouldn't be front page news. Because its not a "deal" its old tech for a high cost. You can do it for far less yourself. And if you are setting up Media servers and the likes, you best not have an excuse that "I don't know how to build one"
^this
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