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Lenovo LI2321s 23" IPS LED Backlit Monitor HDMI - VGA - DVI - 1920 x 1080 - 16:9 - 14 ms response 10,000,000:1 DCR $140 @ frys shipping varies

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not even sure if this is slick guys, but $140 for a ips? or half assed ips? im assuming.

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14 ms response time??? Is that the new standard for led? Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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219 at BB and 206 at Amazon. Looks like a deal!
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219 at BB and 206 at Amazon. Looks like a deal!
14MS Response....
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14MS Response....
Not every usage of a display is response time sensitive. I'm evaluating the deal, not the hardware itself. Link me to an IPS display with <14ms response time for <$140.
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I just picked one up. Zero dead or stuck pixels. This is a matte screen.

Using X-Rite i1 Display LT with Lacie EyeOne Pro software, I profiled this monitor using these settings

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: Custom
  • R: 100
  • G: 100
  • B: 100

Before calibration with above settings: This has pretty decent white balance and gamma out of the box.
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Software calibrated with above settings: Using a colorimeter, you can achieve respectable results.
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Optimal contrast is 50. Don't touch the contrast slider unless you're willing to accept blown out highlights or lowered contrast ratio. Brightness control can be used to control backlight. For color, just set it to custom and leave RGB all to 100.

UPDATED: Input Lag

The input lag on this monitor is pretty good. I connected this monitor using HDMI in mirror mode to my 15" MacbookPro Retina. Using my iPhone camera, I was able to capture between 0-1 frame input lag compared to the Macbook's screen.

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Pros:
  • Good price
  • Decent out of box colors in respect to sRGB
  • 3.5mm audio out jack from HDMI audio
  • 100mm VESA mounting holes
  • Low input lag (0-1 frame)
  • IPS
Cons:
  • No overdrive mode
  • Off angle black image produce IPS purple glow rather than white glow
  • Inability to lower backlight below 170 cd/m2 (Brightness set to 0)
  • Limited stand adjustment - only tilt (Again, not expected at this price point, and you do have the 100mm VESA mounting holes to install your own custom stand)
  • Doesn't include DVI or HDMI cable. Only comes with VGA cable.

Overall, I think this is a great price for what you get. Considering the price, I think the pros really outweigh the cons.

If you're really anal about low response time, then don't even consider any IPS monitors. IPS monitors are catered towards high color fidelity and viewing angles. I've no problem playing starcraft on here, but if you're a FPS player, you might want to look elsewhere for a 120Hz TN monitor.
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Quote from detournement View Post :
Not every usage of a display is response time sensitive. I'm evaluating the deal, not the hardware itself. Link me to an IPS display with
There was a deal on Staples for an HP 20" 2011xi IPS monitor that hit FP a few weeks ago for $90 ( $60 if you used coupons). I believe that monitor had 7ms.
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Quote from detournement View Post :
Not every usage of a display is response time sensitive. I'm evaluating the deal, not the hardware itself. Link me to an IPS display with <14ms response time for <$140.
I am looking for a new monitor for use with my A/V system (video only) and light PC usage. The slow response time is concerning - can anyone comment on whether or not I should expect blurring (in action scenes I suppose) when watching dvd/blu-ray/cable sources through this monitor (HDMI)?

Thanks.
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Quote from Alan278 View Post :
can anyone comment on whether or not I should expect blurring (in action scenes I suppose) when watching dvd/blu-ray/cable sources through this monitor (HDMI)?

Thanks.
You'll be perfectly fine using this for Desktop and Video playback. In fact, I'd argue it's better than a monitor with lower response time using overdrive. You see, most monitors with low response time achieves it by over driving the LCD panel. This can adversely create motion artifacts. In fact, overdrive can be mimicked using NVidia's overdrive mode in the driver configuration if you want the same effect.
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How's this compared to the S2340M?
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Quote from Kanedo View Post :
I just picked one up. Zero dead or stuck pixels.
Using X-Rite i1 Display LT with Lacie EyeOne Pro software, I profiled this monitor using these settings

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: Custom
  • R: 100
  • G: 100
  • B: 100

Before calibration with above settings: This has pretty decent white balance and gamma out of the box.
Attachment 1886014

Software calibrated with above settings: Using a colorimeter, you can achieve respectable results.
Attachment 1886016

Optimal contrast is 50. Don't touch the contrast slider unless you're willing to accept blown out highlights or lowered contrast ratio. Brightness control can be used to control backlight. For color, just set it to custom and leave RGB all to 100.

Pros:
  • Good price
  • Decent out of box colors in respect to sRGB
  • 3.5mm audio out jack from HDMI audio
  • 100mm VESA mounting holes
  • IPS
Cons:
  • No overdrive mode
  • Inability to lower backlight below 170 cd/m2
  • No DisplayPort, USB Hub, or Media card reader (But what do you expect at this price)
  • Limited stand adjustment - only tilt (Again, not expected at this price point, and you do have the 100mm VESA mounting holes to install your own custom stand)

Overall, I think this is a great price for what you get. This monitor's color performance is comparable to Dell's U2312HM. Considering the price, I think the pros really outweigh the cons.

If you're really concerned about response time, then don't even consider any IPS monitors. I've no problem playing starcraft on here, but if you're a FPS player, you might want to look elsewhere for a 120Hz TN monitor.
Excellent first post!
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Quote from Kanedo View Post :
I just picked one up. Zero dead or stuck pixels.
Using X-Rite i1 Display LT with Lacie EyeOne Pro software, I profiled this monitor using these settings

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Color: Custom
  • R: 100
  • G: 100
  • B: 100

Before calibration with above settings: This has pretty decent white balance and gamma out of the box.
Attachment 1886014

Software calibrated with above settings: Using a colorimeter, you can achieve respectable results.
Attachment 1886016

Optimal contrast is 50. Don't touch the contrast slider unless you're willing to accept blown out highlights or lowered contrast ratio. Brightness control can be used to control backlight. For color, just set it to custom and leave RGB all to 100.

Pros:
  • Good price
  • Decent out of box colors in respect to sRGB
  • 3.5mm audio out jack from HDMI audio
  • 100mm VESA mounting holes
  • IPS
Cons:
  • No overdrive mode
  • Inability to lower backlight below 170 cd/m2
  • No DisplayPort, USB Hub, or Media card reader (But what do you expect at this price)
  • Limited stand adjustment - only tilt (Again, not expected at this price point, and you do have the 100mm VESA mounting holes to install your own custom stand)

Overall, I think this is a great price for what you get. This monitor's color performance is comparable to Dell's U2312HM. Considering the price, I think the pros really outweigh the cons.

If you're really anal about low response time, then don't even consider any IPS monitors. IPS monitors are catered towards high color fidelity and viewing angles. I've no problem playing starcraft on here, but if you're a FPS player, you might want to look elsewhere for a 120Hz TN monitor.
how about for telecine color correction related stuffs?.
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How's this compared to the S2340M?
I've only seen the Dell S2340M in store. I almost bought one before this Lenovo deal came out. Below are the differences from what I remember.

- S2340M has glossy coating while LI2321s has matte coating
- S2340M has a thinner bezel than LI2321s
- S2340M lacks 100mm VESA mounting holes while LI2321s has it
- S2340M only has DVI and VGA input. LI2321s has DVI, HDMI, VGA input and 3.5mm audio output from HDMI

Overall, I think the S2340M's bezel looks nicer, but I think LI2321s wins in hardware features. For me, HDMI, audio out, and VESA mount won me over in addition to the cheaper price on this Lenovo.

I can't speak for color performance, input lag, or any overdrive response rate on the Dell since I don't have one to measure. However, I'd imagine the color performance should be similar since both use the same LG e-IPS panel.
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Quote from Kanedo View Post :
I've only seen the Dell S2340M in store. I almost bought one before this Lenovo deal came out. Below are the differences from what I remember.

- S2340M has glossy coating while LI2321s has matte coating
- S2340M has a thinner bezel than LI2321s
- S2340M lacks 100mm VESA mounting holes while LI2321s has it
- S2340M only has DVI and VGA input. LI2321s has DVI, HDMI, VGA input and 3.5mm audio output from HDMI

Overall, I think the S2340M's bezel looks nicer, but I think LI2321s wins in hardware features. For me, HDMI, audio out, and VESA mount won me over in addition to the cheaper price on this Lenovo.

I can't speak for color performance, input lag, or any overdrive response rate on the Dell since I don't have one to measure. However, I'd imagine the color performance should be similar since both use the same LG e-IPS panel.
The Lenovo is matte?!?!? Noooooooo....
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