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Pioneer Elite BDP-62FD Blu-ray Player for only $199.98 At Magnolia(Best Buy B&M)!!!!

Speakerphile 113 April 6, 2013 at 10:45 PM in Brick & Mortar (B&M) (4) More Best Buy Deals
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This is a great price on one of the best Blu-ray players out there. This is a "Universal-Disc" player, so it plays DVD-Audio & SACD in addition to the obvious ones. No brainer...EEK!

This is for brand-new, non-refurbished. Price is only good in store. The web site link below will list the full price. Rest assured it is $199.98 in-store.

Best Buy link:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pione...&cp=1&lp=1

Pioneer link:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com...s/BDP-62FD

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#376
Quote from shaddai View Post :
All the bickering is why I stopped posting in the AVS forums. Sigh...

Great deal, OP!
if it isn't the one who got me hooked on Pioneer Cheers

I'll send you a PM cause I need real advice and the fanboy bickering on here does not help at all, unlike the help you've always provided in the past nod
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#377
Quote from blackblaze View Post :
if it isn't the one who got me hooked on Pioneer Cheers

I'll send you a PM cause I need real advice and the fanboy bickering on here does not help at all, unlike the help you've always provided in the past nod
It's not that bad (I've seen worse on AVS forums) but I'll look out for your PM. Wink
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#378
shaddai & blackblaze - I need some educated opinions.

I am currently using a Panasonic DMP-BD655 hooked up to a Panasonic 55ST30 plasma. Main speakers - DefTech Mythos STS. Receiver - Onkyo TX-SR805. Connection - HDMI.

I am considering upgrading to the Sony BDP-S790 or this Pioneer.

I only care about sound quality of CDs, and DVD/Blu-ray image quality. Online Apps, DVD-A & SACD playback are not important to me.

Will I see improved sound quality and/or picture quality by upgrading to the Sony or the Pioneer? Which one would you recommend?

Thanks in advance for your help.
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#379
Quote from Spock1234 View Post :
shaddai & blackblaze - I need some educated opinions.

I am currently using a Panasonic DMP-BD655 hooked up to a Panasonic 55ST30 plasma. Main speakers - DefTech Mythos STS. Receiver - Onkyo TX-SR805. Connection - HDMI.

I am considering upgrading to the Sony BDP-S790 or this Pioneer.

I only care about sound quality of CDs, and DVD/Blu-ray image quality. Online Apps, DVD-A & SACD playback are not important to me.

Will I see improved sound quality and/or picture quality by upgrading to the Sony or the Pioneer? Which one would you recommend?

Thanks in advance for your help.
Since you highlighted DVD quality, I'd go with the Pioneer 62FD on the strength of the Qdeo processor. I'm not aware of any special equivalent on your current Panny or the Sony you're considering. BD quality will more or less be a wash among the 3 though I hear the 62FD is very responsive.

We're talking digital domain all the way to your receiver so the DSP used, quality of the internal DACs and power reserve of the amp will ultimately determine the SQ, not the player in your situation.
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#380
Quote from shaddai View Post :
We're talking digital domain all the way to your receiver so the DSP used, quality of the internal DACs and power reserve of the amp will ultimately determine the SQ, not the player in your situation.
Thanks for the response.

My Onkyo has Burr Brown 192/24 DACs. So does the Pioneer 62FD, but the ones in the Pioneer could be newer and better. If the Pioneer has higher quality DACs, I will let it handle decoding of lossless audio and send it as PCM to my receiver.
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#381
Quote from Spock1234 View Post :
Thanks for the response.

As for the audio quality - I only asked because if quality of the DACs in my Blu ray player is better, I will let the BD player handle decoding and send PCM to my receiver. My Onkyo has Burr Brown 192/24 DACs just like the Pioneer 62FD, but the ones in the Pioneer could be newer and better.
You may be confusing audio decoding with conversion of a signal from digital to analog. There are no DACs in the 62FD as it's purely a digital transport. Any time HDMI, optical, or digital coaxial is used, the signal can't be analog.

Yes, most players can decode and send PCM to make them compatible with older receivers that are HDMI 1.2 or below. However, no "DACs" are used in this situation. Mass market BD players typically have worse DACs than AVRs and would have RCA analog connections in the back (which the 62FD doesn't have).
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Quote from shaddai View Post :
You may be confusing audio decoding with conversion of a signal from digital to analog. There are no DACs in the 62FD as it's purely a digital transport. Any time HDMI, optical, or digital coaxial is used, the signal can't be analog.

Yes, most players can decode and send PCM to make them compatible with older receivers that are HDMI 1.2 or below. However, no "DACs" are used in this situation. Mass market BD players typically have worse DACs than AVRs and would have RCA analog connections in the back (which the 62FD doesn't have).
You are absolutely right. I should have said 'decoder' not 'DAC'. I'll ask my question again, but correctly this time.

Both the Onkyo and the Pioneer 62 FD can decode the lossless codecs. The Onkyo was released in 2007, and the Pioneer is a 2012 model. Which one would have the better decoder?

To get the best sound quality, should I -

a) allow the Pioneer to decode and send PCM over the HDMI to the Onkyo, or

b) let the Pioneer bitstream the data and have the Onkyo decode it.

Thanks again for your help.
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#383
Quote from Spock1234 View Post :
You are absolutely right. I should have said 'decoder' not 'DAC'. I'll ask my question again, but correctly this time.

Both the Onkyo and the Pioneer 62 FD can decode the lossless codecs. The Onkyo was released in 2007, and the Pioneer is a 2012 model. Which one would have the better decoder?

To get the best sound quality, should I -

a) allow the Pioneer to decode and send PCM over the HDMI to the Onkyo, or

b) let the Pioneer bitstream the data and have the Onkyo decode it.

Thanks again for your help.
sorry, Im not one to give advice on such topics, but you definitely talking to someone who will give you an unbiased and real opinion nod
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#384
Quote from Spock1234 View Post :
You are absolutely right. I should have said 'decoder' not 'DAC'. I'll ask my question again, but correctly this time.

Both the Onkyo and the Pioneer 62 FD can decode the lossless codecs. The Onkyo was released in 2007, and the Pioneer is a 2012 model. Which one would have the better decoder?

To get the best sound quality, should I -

a) allow the Pioneer to decode and send PCM over the HDMI to the Onkyo, or

b) let the Pioneer bitstream the data and have the Onkyo decode it.

Thanks again for your help.
Bitstream to the Onkyo and let it decode. A receiver's job is to do the manipulation of audio so let it do the dirty work. If I'm not mistaken, the Onkyo 805 is from the first gen of Onkyos to decode Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA. Does your receiver suffer from the "DTS bomb" and/or is the firmware updated?
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Quote from shaddai View Post :
Bitstream to the Onkyo and let it decode. A receiver's job is to do the manipulation of audio so let it do the dirty work. If I'm not mistaken, the Onkyo 805 is from the first gen of Onkyos to decode Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA. Does your receiver suffer from the "DTS bomb" and/or is the firmware updated?
Thanks - I'll do that.

The Onkyo has the updated firmware. I don't recall ever experiencing the DTS Bomb problem. It is an awesome receiver - Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA decoding, THX Ultra 2 amps and Burr-Brown DACs.
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#386
Quote from Spock1234 View Post :
Thanks - I'll do that.

The Onkyo has the updated firmware. I don't recall ever experiencing the DTS Bomb problem. It is an awesome receiver - Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA decoding, TX Ultra 2 amps and Burr-Brown DACs.
if you do not recall hearing it, you have not had it! It is quite memorable and you WOULF remember if you had it! be happy!
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#387
Quote from Speakerphile View Post :
This will be the sale price beyond this week. This model is not going clearance for a while.
Quote from blackblaze View Post :
It looks like its the sale price for this week possibly, prior to clearancing them out.
This BD player is now out of stock at most of the stores around me.

I got the last one in stock at my local store. They also have one open box item for the usual 10% off.
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#388
Picked one up over the weekend. Now it's sitting in my home theater begging to come out. I can see its beady eyes staring at me. If I keep it, this will be the third player in my house that can play SACD and DVD-A.

I don't have a 3D TV yet. Still waiting for my 2002 32" Sony CRT to die in the bedroom (they definitely don't make them like they used to). Anyone run any benchmarks on the 3D capability of this player? I haven't read any reviews that would address this aspect of the player.
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#389
Quote from shaddai View Post :
. Still waiting for my 2002 32" Sony CRT to die in the bedroom (they definitely don't make them like they used to).
Pretty funny, and I'm still waiting for my '96 35" Toshiba CRT to die.

If you have the room, I suggest getting a front projector and not looking back. Removing that big box thing in the middle (tv), will improve your stereo.
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#390
Quote from manteone View Post :
Pretty funny, and I'm still waiting for my '96 35" Toshiba CRT to die.

If you have the room, I suggest getting a front projector and not looking back. Removing that big box thing in the middle (tv), will improve your stereo.
Already have one. Currently, running a Sony VPL-HW15 projecting onto a 92" Da-Lite screen in the home theater. The 32" Sony CRT was my very first home theater monitor but now is relegated to the bedroom. I've been running front projection for over 8 years now and have already smashed the rear-view mirror. Big Grin People keep telling me I should charge for viewing in my home theater but I don't feel right since the popcorn maker is still not out of the box yet.

My living room setup is a 50" Pioneer Elite plasma (pre-Kuro). Again, too many toys and not enough room. Frown
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