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Samsung NP365E5C-S05US Laptop Win 8 Install issues

FellaTee 1,307 April 17, 2013 at 09:44 PM
This was my first experience attempting to install Win8 with a firmware BIOS.

I had a Win 8 Pro dvd already and figured I pop it in and would be a pieces of cake. Not so.

So I wanted to go with Win 7, thinking I might have an unused Win 7 laying around somewhere and be done with it. Not so again.

At one time it showed three partitions on the wiped drive. The first two with 0 sizes and one with 427gb not formatted. In a moment of inspiration I blew them away during the Win 7 path of error.

So then I got the right Win 8version mentioned earlier in the Samsung Sales thread. Not Pro, regular Win 8 x64. Hash and MD5 checked out.

Now with Win 8 I keep getting past Install Now and it wants a Activation Code.

My Bios is set to Secure Boot. The Boot order has the DVD with the UEFI prefix first.

What should the Bios settings be? What AMD driver does Win 8 need to see the drive. My partitions are all gone, Win 8 sees nothing at all.

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I think I u need th SMBus driver for the drive to show. not sure.

idk what the bios settings for that laptop and win 8 r supposed to be.. This
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I think I u need th SMBus driver for the drive to show. not sure.

idk what the bios settings for that laptop and win 8 r supposed to be.. This
Thanks, that is actually the driver I tried.

This one AMD\Support\13-1_vista_win7_win8_32-64_sb\Packages\Drivers\SBDrv\SMBus\W764A , is that the right one?
Still no hard drive recognized.
I am wondering if my BIOS settings are screwed too though since it never auto applys the key from the BIOS
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Can someone that successfully installed Win8 on this laptop check what your BIOS Boot settings are and post them here?

I may have screwed mine up trying to go Win 7...

These are my setting in the BIOS
Under Advanced
NX Bit Enabled
Fast Bios Enabled
Batery Life Ext Disabled
USB Wake up Disabled
UMA Frame Auto

Under security
Sup PW Clear
User PW Clear
HDD PW Clear
Secure Boot Custom Mode Disabled

Under Boot
Boot Device Priority - UEFI TSSTcorp CDDVRW SN-208BB
(the other option in there is to DISABLE)
Touch Pad Mose Enabled
Secure Boot Enabled
Internal Lan Enabled
PXE Disabled
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Can someone that successfully installed Win8 on this laptop check what your BIOS Boot settings are and post them here?

I may have screwed mine up trying to go Win 7...

These are my setting in the BIOS
Under Advanced
NX Bit Enabled
Fast Bios Enabled
Batery Life Ext Disabled
USB Wake up Disabled
UMA Frame Auto

Under security
Sup PW Clear
User PW Clear
HDD PW Clear
Secure Boot Custom Mode Disabled

Under Boot
Boot Device Priority - UEFI TSSTcorp CDDVRW SN-208BB
(the other option in there is to DISABLE)
Touch Pad Mose Enabled
Secure Boot Enabled
Internal Lan Enabled
PXE Disabled
Im in class right now, but i got windows 8 successfully installed on the laptop, when i get home in 4 hrs ill give you the bios setting

Try to boot using legacy mode see if you can clear the drive and install. Or if you have a spare desktop computer put the laptop hd in there and do a diskpart to clear the partition. There is a bug in microsoft partitioner that would sometimes break. The only way to fix it is to use a Linux boot disk to wipe the mbr or gpt or use diskpart in windows.

Come to think of it I think setup will allow you to use diskpart if you can get the command prompt to pop up.
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I haven't installed 8 on that particular laptop, but I have done it on may others.
Not all Bios' are created equal, so the terms used and how many settings there are, varies from one to the other, but here's the short of it.
First thing is to disable the secure boot, then enable legacy (if possible) and it can't hurt to turn "fast boot" off.
Naturally, as you previously mentioned, the DVD needs to be first in the boot up order, followed by the appropriate hard drive.
If the bios does not see the hard drive, you may need to pull it out of there and format it, assuming that you have the means to do so. I'm assuming that is not the case and you did mention doing some partitioning, so you must have access to formatting, if the need arises.
For the moment, you'd need to make the above mentioned changes in the bios, and when it gets to the point of choosing the disk and volume, if there's nothing there, then the drive could be raw or in some unknown state, and then you would have to pull it out and format it.

PS: When you get to the point of choosing the disk and volume, just delete what you have in front of you, then make it "new" with whatever size you'd like, or the entire drive, and the installation disc will make the necessary partition/volumes, most likely one of around 300 megs that will precede the OS volume. Do you know what I mean?
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I haven't installed 8 on that particular laptop, but I have done it on may others.
Not all Bios' are created equal, so the terms used and how many settings there are, varies from one to the other, but here's the short of it.
First thing is to disable the secure boot, then enable legacy (if possible) and it can't hurt to turn "fast boot" off.
Naturally, as you previously mentioned, the DVD needs to be first in the boot up order, followed by the appropriate hard drive.
If the bios does not see the hard drive, you may need to pull it out of there and format it, assuming that you have the means to do so. I'm assuming that is not the case and you did mention doing some partitioning, so you must have access to formatting, if the need arises.
For the moment, you'd need to make the above mentioned changes in the bios, and when it gets to the point of choosing the disk and volume, if there's nothing there, then the drive could be raw or in some unknown state, and then you would have to pull it out and format it.

PS: When you get to the point of choosing the disk and volume, just delete what you have in front of you, then make it "new" with whatever size you'd like, or the entire drive, and the installation disc will make the necessary partition/volumes, most likely one of around 300 megs that will precede the OS volume. Do you know what I mean?
Thanks for the good write up.

Since then I've installed Win 7. The problem is I'm using a key won't last past 30 days... and I really wanted top run 8 since I supposedly have a an embedded key.

I used Esaeus to to format the drive and had not problem installing Win 7.

While Win 7 saw the drive, Win 8 media would not and still asked for a driver.

I was hoping that I could use Samsung SWupdate tool to pull down drivers for win 8.
I talked with Samsung earlier. They do not publish the drivers to the web. Only the pull down tool that bummed out on Win 7 btw.

So my last two obstacles are:

-> How do I get Win 8 to see the drive and what settings should the BIOS have so it will automatically use the embedded key?

I have a USB stick that has Win 7 and Win 8 AMD drivers from 13-1_vista_win7_win_8_32-64_sb on them
however I have pointed it almost all drivers on there ACHI, SMBUS etc but while it finds some drivers that appear right it never installs.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Thanks for the good write up.

Since then I've installed Win 7. The problem is I'm using a key won't last past 30 days... and I really wanted top run 8 since I supposedly have a an embedded key.

I used Esaeus to to format the drive and had not problem installing Win 7.

While Win 7 saw the drive, Win 8 media would not and still asked for a driver.

I was hoping that I could use Samsung SWupdate tool to pull down drivers for win 8.
I talked with Samsung earlier. They do not publish the drivers to the web. Only the pull down tool that bummed out on Win 7 btw.

So my last two obstacles are:

-> How do I get Win 8 to see the drive and what settings should the BIOS have so it will automatically use the embedded key?

I have a USB stick that has Win 7 and Win 8 AMD drivers from 13-1_vista_win7_win_8_32-64_sb on them
however I have pointed it almost all drivers on there ACHI, SMBUS etc but while it finds some drivers that appear right it never installs.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
Are you saying that you've disabled "secure boot" and selected Legacy and the computer still won't see the hard drive?
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Are you saying that you've disabled "secure boot" and selected Legacy and the computer still won't see the hard drive?
yes, Win 8 right after install now wants a driver
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Can someone please post the BIOS settings from their Samsung Laptop that allowed them to install Win 8 pulling the bios embedded key during the install?

Mine keeps wanting for me to input a key
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