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Obihai OBi200 VoIP Phone Adapter, T.38 Fax - Supports: Google Voice & SIP (Unlocked) $59.99 @ Amazon

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new product just released.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BUV7C9A

this product is very similar to the OBi202. the OBi202 is usually a good deal around the $60 mark.

it doesn't have some of the bells and whistle features that the OBi202 does. but it does increase the number of provider slots from up to 2 with the OBi100/OBi110 to up to 4.

there seems to be a lot of confusion about obihai products.

just in case it isn't clear, here is a list of providers all obihai products work with regardless of any xmpp developments in the future

Quote :
Anveo
Callcentric
CallWithUs
Engin
freephoneline
InPhonex
RingCentral
Sipgate
Vitelity
voip.ms
VOIPo

and

Generic Service Providers
at present and for the near foreseeable future, Google Voice is also supported.

see the wiki for further information.

Features:
  • Works with Google Voice for FREE calls in the USA and Canada - Great international rates too!
  • VoIP ATA Supports 4 VoIP Accts (SIP and/or Google Voice) for BYOD Services; Anveo, Callcentric, Sipgate, VoIP.ms, etc.
  • OBi Calling Features: Caller ID, Call Forward, Anonymous Caller Blocking, Message Waiting Indication, 3-Way Conf Calling
  • Features a built-in USB port which can be used with the OBiWiFi and OBiBT accessories.
  • OBiTALK Portal Features: Manage Your OBi, Connect to Your Friends' OBi Devices, Add Services, Download Apps for PC, Speed Dial Up to 99 OBi Endpoints or Phone Numbers
  • Make free calls on the OBiTALK Network - Connect to other OBi Devices or use the free OBiON for iPhone and Android apps.
  • more about the product announcement over at obitalk
http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...2#msg38032

Community Wiki

Last Edited by amc442 May 24, 2013 at 07:30 PM
major credit to the previous obihai thread creators for the excellent info in this wiki
  • Even though Google Voice don't have E911 support, you can signup for E911 yourself
    Link to How to set-up 911 calling on an OBi device
    http://blog.obihai.com/2011/11/ca...vices.html
    • Cheapest E911 provider is Anveo (at $0.8/month) http://www.anveo.com/service.asp (FREE plan and add E911)
    • If you are switching from POTS to Obi or other voip services, in many states the old phone line will remain active for calling 911. You just leave your phone connected and they disabled outgoing calls at the phone company computers.
    • if you do not want to 'dedicate' a SIP slot for E911, you can use http://www.gv911.com/ - costs $12/year
    • www.smart911.com [smart911.com] - Smart911 is a free service that allows citizens across the U.S. to create a Safety Profile for their household that includes any information they want 9-1-1 to have in the event of an emergency. Then, when anyone in that household dials 9-1-1 from a phone associated with their Safety Profile, their profile is immediately displayed to the 9-1-1 call taker providing additional information that can be used to facilitate the proper response to the proper location.
      Can check availability under the About page.
  • before you start porting your number to GV, check this first http://www.obihai.com/porttutorial.html
  • configuring 'single' stage dialing here - http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...pic=1103.0
  • cheapest pay-per-minute is by localphone.com at 0.5 cent/minute to US numbers
  • MagicJack/Nettalk/Ooma can be connected to the POTS line of this obi110 - look at obitalk forum for more info on this. (in theory these are next best to free GV)
  • For people want alternative to GV, here are some good quality and/or low price Voips. Some of those VoIP Services offer phone number in other countries also. Remember this is a standard SIP device so you are not tie to GV and any specific Voip.
  • Some Voip that provide free incoming call. May want to double check and see if this information is out of date or not.
    • For free incoming call, you can also use IpKall. It works with Callcentric to provide free local number in Washington State and free incoming call.
      http://www.ipkall.com/
    • Another service offer free incoming phone number
      http://www.sipgate.com/
  • Here are some of the Voip that offer very low price International Calls
    • Onesuite and localphone offer a lot of local access number so can use it without Voip device. Those two also offer international local access number which you can use outside US. Check their website for more info.
      http://www.onesuite.com (Onesuite has been around for 10+ years and consistently great quality)
      - offer low price long distance
      - Internet Fax
      - Global Call Forwarding
      - Voip phone service
    • http://www.localphone.com (cheapest pay-per-minute is by localphone.com at 0.5 cent/minute to US numbers)
  • OBiPLUS - good value for small businesses or home office. you can get obiplus lite for free with the obi202. http://www.obihai.com/obiplus.html

suggested reading for keeping up with xmpp developments:
  • xmpp discussion over at obitalk: http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...pic=5954.0
  • some more great info direct from a Google employee: https://plus.google.com/106636280...G6h32BWaQW

    excerpt:
    Quote from Nikhyl Singhal :
    We're working hard on supporting both, and outbound/inbound calls will soon be available. In the meantime, you can continue using Google Talk in Gmail.

    Hangouts is designed to be the future of Google Voice, and making/receiving phone calls is just the beginning. Future versions of Hangouts will integrate Google Voice more seamlessly.
  • thanks to cookiemonster for this update
    Quote from cookiemonster View Post :
    Over on XDA [xda-developers.com], the creator of BetterBatteryStats [google.com] just posted the following:
    Quote :
    I have finished looking at the tech Web casts about the new playstore services. Focusing on the topic of this thread playstore services will have a huge (and potentially negative) impact on how we deal with freezing and disabling parts of the framework. The two main areas I have in mind are:
    - location providers are not only part of the android core anymore but also of the services. Namely this would be the fused location provider
    - gcm has big changes: messaging is from but also to the cloud, it is now based on xmpp and implements transaction security (data is stored on the device and deleted when it was acknowledged but the cloud)
    I think this indicates that XMPP isn't going anywhere.
  • Did Google REALLY Kill Off All XMPP/Jabber Support In Google+ Hangouts? It Still Seems To Partially Work [disruptivetelephony.com]
  • this was posted by a member over at obitalk. it very much why these devices won't be useless, even if google does in fact drop xmpp support in the future. you'll STILL be able to use this method using google voice for incoming calls with a setup like this.
    Quote from giqcass :
    For anyone using the following method to set up Google Voice you will still receive incoming calls even if Google cuts off xmpp sometime in the future.

    http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...pic=3640.0
  • re the following:
    Quote from microkelvin View Post :
    These devices r useless soon. So don't buy them.
    this is wrong. it's incorrect. it's misinformation. it's completely erroneous.

    here's why: even if at some point in the future google voice is no longer supported there are a whole slew of other low cost providers obihai products work with. you can find a list of supported voip providers in the OP. also take a read throiugh the link posted by giqcass above for how to use google voice for incoming calls regardless of xmpp developments by pairing google voice and callcentric together.

thanks brisar!

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The protocol Google voice uses with these is being shut down so GV may no longer work soon.
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The protocol Google voice uses with these is being shut down so GV may no longer work soon.
do you have a source for that? first i've heard of it.

i don't doubt its possible. but i'm sure the interwebz would be a buzz if that were true.
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do you have a source for that? first i've heard of it.
The post has been moved to deal talk. Go there and read. These devices r useless soon. So don't buy them.
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The protocol Google voice uses with these is being shut down so GV may no longer work soon.
Where you heard that? Link please.
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Where you heard that? Link please.
You can google the terms "google voice xmpp obi hangout"
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The post has been moved to deal talk. Go there and read. These devices r useless soon. So don't buy them.
here's a link to all the obihai+google voice threads in Deal Talk.

http://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php#forumchoice%5B%5D=30&q=obihai+google+voice

i don't see any mention there. i dont see any sources here confirming this. is this the xmpp protocol change? if so those are all UNCONFIRMED at this point.

regardless even if obihai products WERE to drop gv support which i still find suspect, the devices would NOT become useless. the obihai products work with a bunch of different BYOD voip providers. you could simply move to a different one.

lots of the BYOD voip providers are very cost efficient. not free but still very cheap. even when compared with things like ooma or vonage.
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The post has been moved to deal talk. Go there and read. These devices r useless soon. So don't buy them.
Are you referring to this post?
http://slickdeals.net/f/6040806-xmpp-being-killed-by-google-end-to-free-calling?v=1
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Yup. .
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Quote from amc442 View Post :
here's a link to all the obihai+google voice threads in Deal Talk.

http://slickdeals.net/newsearch.php#forumchoice%5B%5D=30&q=obihai+google+voice

i don't see any mention there. i dont see any sources here confirming this. is this the xmpp protocol change? if so those are all UNCONFIRMED at this point.

regardless even if obihai products WERE to drop gv support which i still find suspect, the devices would NOT become useless. the obihai products work with a bunch of different BYOD voip providers. you could simply move to a different one.

lots of the BYOD voip providers are very cost efficient. not free but still very cheap. even when compared with things like ooma or vonage.

With google hangouts XMPP support is being dropped. Obi uses XMPP to connect to google voice. Once google talk is phased out completely for hangouts obi will probably stop working.
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you have to love the internet sometimes.

a thread that asks a question about a possible upcoming change that isn't device specific and now suddenly the pimple farmers are porting it as fact,

let me frank about this. THERE IS NO CONFIRMED SOURCE THAT STATES OBIHAI PRODUCTS WILL NO LONGER WORK WITH GOOGLE VOICE.

are there changes coming? seems to be.

how will that affect obihai + google voice users? nothing official yet. not even at hint at something official.

here's a related thread over at obitalk for those wanting to follow it.

but as I said earlier -

Quote from amc442 View Post :
is this the xmpp protocol change? if so those are all UNCONFIRMED at this point.

regardless even if obihai products WERE to drop gv support which i still find suspect, the devices would NOT become useless. the obihai products work with a bunch of different BYOD voip providers. you could simply move to a different one.

lots of the BYOD voip providers are very cost efficient. not free but still very cheap. even when compared with things like ooma or vonage.
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Quote from amc442 View Post :
you have to love the internet sometimes.

a thread that asks a question about a possible upcoming change that isn't device specific and now suddenly are porting it as fact,

let me frank about this. THERE IS NO CONFIRMED SOURCE THAT STATES OBIHAI PRODUCTS WILL NO LONGER WORK WITH GOOGLE VOICE.

are there changes coming? seems to be.

how will that affect obihai + google voice users? nothing official yet. not even at hint at something official.

here's a related thread over at obitalk for those wanting to follow it.

but as I said earlier -
good for u. Then buy them all. I have about 4 obis that I want to get rid of. Pid $55, willimg to get rid at $25 a pop. I will pay shipping too. U want them?
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Quote from Cozmo85 View Post :
Once google talk is phased out completely for hangouts obi will probably stop working.
LMAO

geez. you guys are something else.

it's probably going to rain tomorrow too. somewhere. some tomorrow. in the future. maybe.

should obihai users and potential buyers keep an eye on xmpp developments? absolutely. does it mean that google voice support could be an issue in the future? sure. google voice support may change. google voice could also start charging for google voice too come 2014. or google voice as we know it could go away entirely.

it's all conjecture at this point. so let's not report it as fact, huh?
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XMPP being dropped is a fact.

The fact that the OBi uses xmpp to connect to GV is a fact.

"Talk, for example, was built to help enterprise users communicate better, Singhal says. "The notion of creating something that’s social and that’s always available wasn’t the same charter as we set out with when we created Talk." With Hangouts, Singhal says Google had to make the difficult decision to drop the very "open" XMPP standard that it helped pioneer."

Without XMPP the obi will not work.
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