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Promoted 06-03-2013 at 08:57 PM View Original Post
Private Internet Access is offering 20% off their VPN Service. Thanks brisar

Note, refer to the forum threads (here or here) for additional information
  • $5.45/month for month to month plan
  • $31.95 for 1-year plan ($2.66/month)

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Edited June 3, 2013 at 07:03 PM by widgit
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20% off their VPN Service

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  • $5.45/month for month to month plan
  • $31.95 for 1-year plan ($2.66/month)

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#496
Newbie here. Sorry if this is a dumb question.

So, if I understand correctly, if I install PIA on my router I won't have to install it on any of my 5 devices and they'll still pick it up while going through the router. But if I'm on the road none of these devices will be protected so I'll have to install PIA on the ones I take with me? Is this how it works? And this is covered by purchasing the one license for PIA? Thanks!
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#497
So basically if I do not want the government snooping into my emails etc, this will not work?
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Quote from ggeinec View Post :
Newbie here. Sorry if this is a dumb question.

So, if I understand correctly, if I install PIA on my router I won't have to install it on any of my 5 devices and they'll still pick it up while going through the router. But if I'm on the road none of these devices will be protected so I'll have to install PIA on the ones I take with me? Is this how it works? And this is covered by purchasing the one license for PIA? Thanks!
Yes that is right.
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#499
Quote from Larron View Post :
Sure, they could run a service without logs, but I think it's unlikely that any of them really do. Even the vendors that claim they don't keep logs probably keep short-term logs. There's no other way they could prevent certain abuse.

If they're based in Europe, it's probably no big deal, but if they're based in the US it could be. Because if they receive a subpoena, they have to answer it honestly or risk criminal contempt. If they tell the court they don't have logs and it ever comes out that they actually do, whomever falsely answered could go to jail.

If you're buying a VPN for general security when away from home or to access region-protected content, it's fine to subscribe to a service with US servers. But if you're doing it for the purposes of avoiding strikes from the content providers, using a service with any US based nexus seems pointless. Eventually, they'll start sending subpoenas to the VPN.
I've been running proxies/beta vpn without logs since 06... There are really no issue. I've recently only installed logs due to my new upstream provider requirements but a majority of data centers understand that VPN providers are like ISP and do not require logs to qualify for DMCA protection. Only saying its pretty feasible that these vpn providers do not keep logs.
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#500
Quote from superaj123 View Post :
As was mentioned earlier in the thread, unless you have a high end router, a basic router probably does not have the processing power or memory to do the encryption/decryption necessary for VPN.

Never hurts to try though. Here are the instructions:

https://www.privateinternetaccess...-tomatousb
would you have some easy tutorial on setting up Asus AC66 router (it is a high end router) with this VPN? thanks!
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#501
Quote from bolland99 View Post :
It seems like it would work if you remember to turn it on and use it.



NSA prism doesn't make VPN useless to hide yourself.
Please expand on this... I don't think it will protect anybody that logs in into 90+% of the services out there... GMail, Youtube, Google, eBay, Amazon, NewEgg, Any Banks, Visa, MasterCard, etc, etc, etc... Thru their VPN... The providers are not logging beyond what they normally do but they have a backdoor as big as a 18 wheeler to allow the NSA (just them for now) to log every bit of data going in and out... So if u log into any of the 90+% of services being logged & stored thru the providers... They can tie u'r VPN actions to u'r other accounts... Sure they say they would only use it if u'r a terrorist or major violent planner... But that is only temporary... The data is theirs... They can go back to it when ever they want and for what ever reason they want... So VPN will only protect u from Prism if u run what ever u do on VPN as a clean room... No letting non of any other accounts touch each other.. Almost impossible to do by most norms...

Quote from ggeinec View Post :
Newbie here. Sorry if this is a dumb question.

So, if I understand correctly, if I install PIA on my router I won't have to install it on any of my 5 devices and they'll still pick it up while going through the router. But if I'm on the road none of these devices will be protected so I'll have to install PIA on the ones I take with me? Is this how it works? And this is covered by purchasing the one license for PIA? Thanks!
Use to be 3 devices but now it's 5... And u'r cellphone's need to have PIA working all the time... I am not sure if PIA will encrypt u'r cellphone data from the cell provider... The NSA is tapping that info too... laugh out loud

Quote from Meadowlands View Post :
So basically if I do not want the government snooping into my emails etc, this will not work?
Nope... The emails are being tapped from the email service provider... I wonder on what side does TorEmail end up on the tapping issue... It doesn't matter if u encrypt anything if u'r Inbox & Sent & etc. can be directly access by the NSA... We would need have multiple emails for just about every site we register to & make sure that email provider does not log and encrypts everything and that they do not let the NSA backdoor to even beging to think u'r Email's are safe... And then u'r conversations will be exposed to Prism or who ever by the receiver of such emails.... So I think we are cooked on that part...

Right now... The NSA has all our info... They just for now not share or snitch on us ot 3rd party's for what ever we are doing... Eventually the NSA will tell companies who is running their software without paying or who got 2 coupons on a 1 coupon deal... Etc... They have the logs... They just haven't decide to share that with 3rd non gov parties yet...

Why do u think the gov is so lenient with Google & other providers when they violate our rights... They get charge chump change for the violations... Because they need each other... Data is Data to both of them & our data is free...

Just like with the IRS targeting.. This will become political too... Last election Google was rumor to be allowing Obama to try a pre-beta data mining scheme from Google... Then Google came out and said they don't have any body "paying" for such service... The part they did not talk about was that they allow 3rd parties or customers to participate in close pre-alpha, or pre-beta of unreleased programs/services... They can say they are not selling it to anybody & the 3rd party can say they haven't paid for anything... How convenient...
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Quote from Y314K View Post :
Please expand on this... I don't think it will protect anybody that logs in into 90+% of the services out there... GMail, Youtube, Google, eBay, Amazon, NewEgg, Any Banks, Visa, MasterCard, etc, etc, etc... Thru their VPN... The providers are not logging beyond what they normally do but they have a backdoor as big as a 18 wheeler to allow the NSA (just them for now) to log every bit of data going in and out... So if u log into any of the 90+% of services being logged & stored thru the providers... They can tie u'r VPN actions to u'r other accounts... Sure they say they would only use it if u'r a terrorist or major violent planner... But that is only temporary... The data is theirs... They can go back to it when ever they want and for what ever reason they want... So VPN will only protect u from Prism if u run what ever u do on VPN as a clean room... No letting non of any other accounts touch each other.. Almost impossible to do by most norms...



Use to be 3 devices but now it's 5... And u'r cellphone's need to have PIA working all the time... I am not sure if PIA will encrypt u'r cellphone data from the cell provider... The NSA is tapping that info too... laugh out loud



Nope... The emails are being tapped from the email service provider... I wonder on what side does TorEmail end up on the tapping issue... It doesn't matter if u encrypt anything if u'r Inbox & Sent & etc. can be directly access by the NSA... We would need have multiple emails for just about every site we register to & make sure that email provider does not log and encrypts everything and that they do not let the NSA backdoor to even beging to think u'r Email's are safe... And then u'r conversations will be exposed to Prism or who ever by the receiver of such emails.... So I think we are cooked on that part...

Right now... The NSA has all our info... They just for now not share or snitch on us ot 3rd party's for what ever we are doing... Eventually the NSA will tell companies who is running their software without paying or who got 2 coupons on a 1 coupon deal... Etc... They have the logs... They just haven't decide to share that with 3rd non gov parties yet...

Why do u think the gov is so lenient with Google & other providers when they violate our rights... They get charge chump change for the violations... Because they need each other... Data is Data to both of them & our data is free...

Just like with the IRS targeting.. This will become political too... Last election Google was rumor to be allowing Obama to try a pre-beta data mining scheme from Google... Then Google came out and said they don't have any body "paying" for such service... The part they did not talk about was that they allow 3rd parties or customers to participate in close pre-alpha, or pre-beta of unreleased programs/services... They can say they are not selling it to anybody & the 3rd party can say they haven't paid for anything... How convenient...
Sigh. A VPN can only keep you clean if you never play in the mud. Use a different browser that does not even have access to the sites you fear may be monitoring or logging. (And that is a whole lot of sites.) You can use a VirtualBox with a different OS install as the host for your other browser and keep them very hard to link together by avoiding sites that are not trusted. Do not use Google as your search engine. Use one of these two:
https://duckduckgo.com/
https://ixquick.com/

Use a portable browser on a VirtualBox without access to *ANYTHING* you have access to if you want to go crazy with paranoia. (Remember it is only paranoia if someone can actually prove your fears are unfounded.)

A VPN really does help. But if you are not willing and able to learn to keep anonymous, it is only a matter of time before it will fail utterly at that goal.

On sites you participate with, your very writing style can usually be enough to identify you. (This is one of my biggest security failings. But I know this and accept it. I have nothing to hide really.)

Remember that unless you are harming someone, you have no requirement to tell any Police, nor FBI/CIA/NSA/DHS anything other than your name and address in the USA. But if you are suspected of harming someone, they will quickly get a court order and ship you off to Gitmo where they need not obey your civil rights. Waterboarding gets results, even if it utterly ruins the people it is used upon.

So keep your act clean and you have nothing to fear in general. None of the agencies mentioned here care if you download porn or movies without paying for them. That is a civil court matter that they will not waste their time on.

But if you mess with CP, or plot acts of violence or anything even remotely in the same ballpark, say hello to the guards at Gitmo when you get there on behalf of the rest of us who do not want to live on the same planet as you. 'Nuff said. Big Grin
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Quote from OmniNegro View Post :
Sigh. A VPN can only keep you clean if you never play in the mud. Use a different browser that does not even have access to the sites you fear may be monitoring or logging. (And that is a whole lot of sites.) You can use a VirtualBox with a different OS install as the host for your other browser and keep them very hard to link together by avoiding sites that are not trusted. Do not use Google as your search engine. Use one of these two:
https://duckduckgo.com/
https://ixquick.com/

Use a portable browser on a VirtualBox without access to *ANYTHING* you have access to if you want to go crazy with paranoia. (Remember it is only paranoia if someone can actually prove your fears are unfounded.)

A VPN really does help. But if you are not willing and able to learn to keep anonymous, it is only a matter of time before it will fail utterly at that goal.

On sites you participate with, your very writing style can usually be enough to identify you. (This is one of my biggest security failings. But I know this and accept it. I have nothing to hide really.)

Remember that unless you are harming someone, you have no requirement to tell any Police, nor FBI/CIA/NSA/DHS anything other than your name and address in the USA. But if you are suspected of harming someone, they will quickly get a court order and ship you off to Gitmo where they need not obey your civil rights. Waterboarding gets results, even if it utterly ruins the people it is used upon.

So keep your act clean and you have nothing to fear in general. None of the agencies mentioned here care if you download porn or movies without paying for them. That is a civil court matter that they will not waste their time on.

But if you mess with CP, or plot acts of violence or anything even remotely in the same ballpark, say hello to the guards at Gitmo when you get there on behalf of the rest of us who do not want to live on the same planet as you. 'Nuff said. Big Grin
I think a requirement to land u in Gitmo after 2008 is that u have to be a US Citizen.... Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

I guess we can use PIA & other methods to make us feel like we are doing something... But it seems it's just a placebo....
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#504
hmm--how long before the email comes with acct info,been 5 mins and nothing--looked in spam btw
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#505
Quote from pokymon View Post :
Right click the program you downloaded, click "Run as Administrator", and follow instructions. I did this morning on two PCs W8 and W7.
There is no option to "Run as Administrator". On right-click, the only option is "Run as...", and when I choose that the PIA installer starts. I'm the only user on this computer so I'm the admin by default.

I've since installed another VPN without incident, and it didn't ask for any administrator privileges.
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Quote from Y314K View Post :
I think a requirement to land u in Gitmo after 2008 is that u have to be a US Citizen.... Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

I guess we can use PIA & other methods to make use feel like we are doing something... But it seems it's just a placebo....
Lol. I wonder if there is any way to confirm or deny that requirement. I think it is pointless to even wonder. If you are ever a real suspect in anything bad you are as likely to end up there as not if the US government wants information from you.

And just like I said about waterboarding, placebos get results. Big Grin
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Quote from getdealsonline View Post :
would you have some easy tutorial on setting up Asus AC66 router (it is a high end router) with this VPN? thanks!
You will need to see if DD-WRT or Tomato works on your router. I use Tomato:
http://tomatousb.org/

Once it's installed on your router, then you can follow the instructions from the previous PIA link. Make sure you install the TomatoVPN though, so it has the VPN settings options.
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#508
Quote from superaj123 View Post :
You will need to see if DD-WRT or Tomato works on your router. I use Tomato:
http://tomatousb.org/

Once it's installed on your router, then you can follow the instructions from the previous PIA link. Make sure you install the TomatoVPN though, so it has the VPN settings options.

Thanks, I found it http://forum.hidemyass.com/index....u-support/
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Quote from crspyjohn View Post :
I've been running proxies/beta vpn without logs since 06... There are really no issue. I've recently only installed logs due to my new upstream provider requirements but a majority of data centers understand that VPN providers are like ISP and do not require logs to qualify for DMCA protection. Only saying its pretty feasible that these vpn providers do not keep logs.
I'm not saying the commercial VPN providers are technically incapable of running without logs, I'm saying they're politically incapable. The only way these VPN's can prevent misuse by terrorists, CP and other horribly nefarious individuals is to keep logs. This makes it very likely that most commercial VPN services do keep user logs, at least for a little while, even if they claim they don't.

This could be a big problem for those using VPNs to avoid six strikes. No matter where the company that owns the VPN is based, by having US servers the company has a US nexus and is subject to US law. When a subpoena for records is sent to a foreign VPN company with US servers, the company's employees could face criminal sanctions were they to lie about the existence of such logs.

Maybe the smarter foreign providers don't own anything stateside, they just rent a few servers in the US and encrypt everything so their US admins can't access the logs. Maybe. Even so, the admins could be subpoenaed. Which providers are smart and which aren't? We cannot know.

If a user's primary reason for buying a VPN service is to anonymously bittorrent, using a US-based service is completely and utterly pointless. Any US based company will have to answer subpoenas. Even using a foreign VPN with US servers seems stupidly risky and nearly as pointless. The only worthwhile VPN's for hiding file sharing are probably those based outside the US with no US servers. And yes, they'll be slower. But if you value speed over security, why pay for a VPN anyway?
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#510
I have time warner and just started downloading 3d movies (25gb-50gbs each) but noticed my speeds came to an abrupt halt the other day and just barely started working as it should today. I take it they're throttling me or something. Will this help me out? I get about 1mb download, will this stay the same or will it hurt me. Tia
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