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Dell XPS 8700 won't boot from flash drive or optical drive

bylanta 361 23 August 30, 2013 at 01:33 AM
Just bought a Dell xps 8700. Adding an SSD to be the OS drive, and switching from win 8 to win 7. I have plugged in only the SSD and tried booting from both bootable flash drive and bootable dvd of win7. However I get an error saying no bootable media found. I have definitely set the boot order correctly in the bios.

The computer makes a single beep when it turns on now, which can be related to the motherboard. But if I plug in the original Dell hard drive, it boots win 8 no problem, so i don't think there is a motherboard issue that would prevent both the usb drive and the optical drive to fail to be able to use bootable media...right? What else am I not thinking of here? Thanks

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Just bought a Dell xps 8700. Adding an SSD to be the OS drive, and switching from win 8 to win 7. I have plugged in only the SSD and tried booting from both bootable flash drive and bootable dvd of win7. However I get an error saying no bootable media found. I have definitely set the boot order correctly in the bios.

The computer makes a single beep when it turns on now, which can be related to the motherboard. But if I plug in the original Dell hard drive, it boots win 8 no problem, so i don't think there is a motherboard issue that would prevent both the usb drive and the optical drive to fail to be able to use bootable media...right? What else am I not thinking of here? Thanks
The Win 8 bios is rather different from what we are used to.
I haven't seen the XPS 8700's bios yet to give you exact details, but I can tell what to look for.
There is most likely a setting that changes it from UEFI to Legacy, and if so, change it.
There may be one called "Secure Boot, and if so, disable it.
If there is a setting for "Fast Boot", disable that too.
Leave the external DVD and/or USB drives connected while you're playing around in there, so as to be sure that they have been sensed and can be chosen in the boot order.
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You might feel that you have a valid reason for installing 7 on your SSD, but it may interest you to know that there is a small free app called Startmenu8 from iobit, that would assist you in making 8 look and function just like 7.
8 is faster than 7, and has several other features that are superior to its predecessor.
If you choose to keep 8, you won't need to activate the OS as it's all built into the bios.
If you keep the original HD for data, you may consider keeping it intact and adding it into the bootup menu with a program like easyBCD, so that if anything ever goes wrong with your primary system on the SSD, you could boot up into the original HD and keep on working/playing until you have time to fix the SSD's OS.
Lots of folks simply clone the original system to the SSD that they are adding to the computer, saving them from having to seek out all the drivers and utilities to download and install.
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The Win 8 bios is rather different from what we are used to.
I haven't seen the XPS 8700's bios yet to give you exact details, but I can tell what to look for.
There is most likely a setting that changes it from UEFI to Legacy, and if so, change it.
There may be one called "Secure Boot, and if so, disable it.
If there is a setting for "Fast Boot", disable that too.
Leave the external DVD and/or USB drives connected while you're playing around in there, so as to be sure that they have been sensed and can be chosen in the boot order.
It definitely defaulted to UEFI, i tried toggling that to Legacy(or whatever Dell is calling it, i forget right now).. I also tried disabling secure boot. Don't think I saw anything like fast boot though. just to clarify, the DVD is internal and came with the dell. I definitely didn't unplug any usb drives.. I was just trying to boot from a flash drive or the DVD.

Thanks for the tips on windows 8, that is intriguing. I will consider that option for sure, but as of now I can't boot from a disc or even get windows to recognize the SSD(only the bios sees it)

I do plan to retain the original Dell HDD with win 8 on it as a backup OS, and for whenever I am ready to migrate from win7 to the win8 it has on it.

Thanks for your replies.
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Were you successful in changing it from UEFI to Legacy and were you able to disable Secure Boot?
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Maybe a silly question, but is the media on the DVD or Flash drive bootable? Did you try the media on another machine.
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Were you successful in changing it from UEFI to Legacy and were you able to disable Secure Boot?
Yea I can change those freely
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Maybe a silly question, but is the media on the DVD or Flash drive bootable? Did you try the media on another machine.
no silly questions here, and yea the media has been tested on another machine. I tried multiple versions of win 7, tried different DVD brands. I used a linux distro thing to create the bootable flash drive.
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no silly questions here, and yea the media has been tested on another machine. I tried multiple versions of win 7, tried different DVD brands. I used a linux distro thing to create the bootable flash drive.
So you can boot linux from the flash drive?

Can you read from the dvd drive with the Win8 hard drive? Is that drive what you used to create the Win7 DVD ?
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no silly questions here, and yea the media has been tested on another machine. I tried multiple versions of win 7, tried different DVD brands. I used a linux distro thing to create the bootable flash drive.
OK, so that I'm clear on all the details.
1: You have changed the bios to Legacy.
2: You have disabled "Secure Boot".
3: You have set your DVD to the top of the boot order list.
Am I correct?
If so, then I'm missing some info, as that's basically all you'd have to do, to make it work.
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So you can boot linux from the flash drive?

Can you read from the dvd drive with the Win8 hard drive? Is that drive what you used to create the Win7 DVD ?
sorry, forget I used the word linux, it was just a program commonly used to make linux based bootable flash drives, but I used it to make a windows bootable flash drive.

dvd drive is dell standard, came with the brand new computer and the bios sees it fine, which seems like the real criteria here.

I actually used a laptop to create the win 7 dvd
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sorry, forget I used the word linux, it was just a program commonly used to make linux based bootable flash drives, but I used it to make a windows bootable flash drive.

dvd drive is dell standard, came with the brand new computer and the bios sees it fine, which seems like the real criteria here.

I actually used a laptop to create the win 7 dvd
Maybe i'm nuts, but I don't think you have answered the question....Will the DVD or Flash drive boot on the laptop ?...you said tested, but that doesn't mean it boots.
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Maybe i'm nuts, but I don't think you have answered the question....Will the DVD or Flash drive boot on the laptop ?...you said tested, but that doesn't mean its boots.
Yeah. I want to know too.
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Sorry.. many thanks for your continued replies..

Yes, the flash drive boots my laptop into Win7 setup.

In fact, I dashed home on my lunch break to give it another go, and I made a few more attempts at this. I changed the USB port i was using from the top of the chassis to the rear. I also hit f12 repeatedly on boot to enter a different bios menu than I was in before. This was able to make more specific boot options available, specifically it recognized my flash drive by name. Previously in the other bios setup menu it was just something like "usb storage devices".

That looked like it would solve the problem, as win 7 setup commenced. However after the message along the lines of " may need to reboot to finish installation", it rebooted eventually and in windows 8...So it never finished installing win 7, and i may a have an incomplete/corrupt win 7 installation on my ssd? Also, even in windows 8, I cannot see my SSD drive under "my computer". Either BIOS screen does recognize it as a samsung SSD too.

Is the next step to try this without my original Dell hard drive powered on?
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Pressing F12 at the Dell logo lets you select the boot options. It sounds like you now have a dual boot set-up if it finished properly. You should be able to pick the SSD in Bios to boot first, or you may be able to re-boot now and press F12 again and select the SSD drive to see if it boots to Win 7.
I thought your original drive was disconnected.
If it doesn't work then I would do it again with just the SSD.
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