Samsung Galaxy Note 3 32GB LTE (T-Mobile, Unlocked, Black or White) - $669.50 AC w/ free shipping - Negri Electronics
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BE CAREFUL. SAMSUNG IS REGION LOCKING [SOME] NOTE 3 PHONES AND ALL UNLOCKED PHONES SOLD THEREAFTER. SOME PHONES WILL NOT WORK WITH LOCAL SIMS IF YOU ARE AN INTERNATIONAL TRAVELLER.
As shown by many unlocking sites, removing the SIM/carrier lock also removes the region lock so all US models that were originally locked (like this) are fine. No US model has the sticker. Any IMEI unlock code like those used to unlock these will remove the region lock permanently. Granted, Samsung falsely claimed that you could use any SIM on a region-locked phone after first activating with a SIM from the correct region (there a carrier blacklist in effect), but that only applies to phones that were region locked in the first place. Even with the software updates rolling out to old phones, it will not affect any that were originally carrier-locked like this. You can chose to boycott them for that anti-consumer behavior if you want but just know that it does not apply to the model discussed here.
- the SIM limitation sticker really is meant to mean what it says - the N9005 [not the T-Mobile N900T model] is not meant to be compatible with SIMs issued by operators outside the European region - I believe at least some owners are using the Note 3 with SIMs issued by operators outside the EU but the rep was adamant that the Note 3 was not intended by Samsung to be used with SIMs issued by operators outside of the European region, even following first activation.
- the European region Note 3s are only meant to be compatible with SIMs issued by operators from the European region, and this applies equally after activation - I asked repeatedly her to confirm this which she did each time. I tried practical examples too and it got worse: So if I go to Australia I must use a European region SIM in my Note 3 even if I buy the Note 3 SIM-free for ?620? Yes according to the rep. So I asked if I go to Florida on vacation, I have no choice but to use a European region SIM in my Note 3? Yes again according to rep.
- it makes no difference if here in the UK I buy the Note 3 from Carphone Warehouse, Phones 4U, EE or Clove.
- I could buy another phone if I wanted to use a SIM from an operator outside the EU in my mobile - the rep volunteered this to me as it never occurred to me that they might seriously suggest such a policy.
No matter which Samsung rep is right, it's clear from what buyers are saying that Samsung's region lock doesn't work as intended. If it's supposed to block SIMs from a second region after a right activation, that this doesn't always happen. If it's supposed to block SIMs from a second region after a wrong activation, well, this doesn't always happen either, at least according to existing reports.
Forget all that, Chainfire just developed a way to remove region locking... http://androidfannetwo
Actually, forget all that for and even more basic reason: The region lock doesn't apply to the T-Mobile model AT ALL. There is no region locking on any US model because ALL US models are originally carrier/SIM locked and region-locking is permanently removed in the process of removing the carrier/SIM lock (as has been done here by Negri). This has been shown time and time again with the IMEI unlocking sites successfully fixing region-locked phones. Yes, Samsung's claim that it is removed after using a local SIM is not true (blacklist is still in effect), but that is completely different. IMEI unlocks WORK as proven by a certain Russian website that has unlocked many.