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Last Edited by cricket702 October 31, 2013 at 05:34 PM
http://blog.obihai.com/2013/10/im...voice.html

Google Sets the Date for the End of XMPP with Google Voice

Recently Google announced the end of support for XMPP based calling with Google Voice. This will happen on May 15, 2014 – that’s over 6 months from today. Since your OBi device uses XMPP to communicate with Google servers, the end of support will directly impact how your OBi device can be used with your Gmail account and its associated Google Voice phone number. Unfortunately, you will no longer be able to use the Google Voice communication service to make calls using the phone connected to your OBi device. Also, the ability to receive calls to your Google Voice number, directly from Google’s service, will not be possible.
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Last Edited by rangerz May 14, 2014 at 11:02 AM
Quote from jbinmn View Post :
This is what the Google Play website says about GrooVe IP app:

https://play.google.com/store/app...voip&hl=en

Voice without Minutes!
On May 15, 2014 Google will no longer allow XMPP based calling through Google Voice. Since GrooVe IP uses that interface, this app will stop functioning on May 15, 2014.
Google Voice is still FREE, will continue its FREE service after May 15, and will not be interrupted

GVJack App, which uses an old Magic Jack, will continue to work after May 15 on landlines using FREE GV service.

bulb Feel free to add any plan details to this shared Google Sheet [google.com] to track the multitude of options. bulb


Free Obi device <---> Obi device calling
Quote :
http://www.obihai.com/features-and-set-up

Using the OBi to Call Other OBi Endpoints for Free Using the OBiTALK Network:
The OBi comes out of the box ready to make FREE calls to other OBi endpoints using the OBiTALK network. On the bottom of your unit, you will see a 9-digit OBi Number. This is your OBi Number. Give this number to your friends, family and colleagues so they can call you from their OBi device or using an OBi software application for PCs and mobile phones. To use the OBiTALK network, all you have to do is install your OBi, pick up the phone and then call your friends by dialing 9 and their nine-digit OBi Number.
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SIP users probably don't have to worry that much about this. There was a way before XMPP, and until Google changes the Voice API, there will be a way after it as well... How it used to be done: How to use Google Voice for free outgoing calls on an Asterisk/FreePBX system (the no-XMPP way) [iprock.com].

Keep in mind that the aforementioned method would require a SIP DID (which can easily be linked to a GV number) and a light Linux server, but that's a small compromise for what you're getting.

Since most (all?) Obihai devices can also connect to SIP accounts, the discontinuation of XMPP support doesn't necessarily mean you won't be able to use your device with GV -- it just means that it will be a little more difficult.
http://tech.iprock.com/?p=9784
thanks jakenovak for link

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For Free incoming call
http://www.callcentric.com/ <--- many SDers and people in other Voip forum recommend this. Callcentric currently offer FREE NY phone number with free unlimited incoming calls. No monthly fee if you pick country other than US/Canada, otherwise $1.50/month 911 fee (you do get E911 support) only if you pick US/Canada.

For free incoming & outgoing calls do the following:
Sign up for a free Callcentric DID & then configure 1 of the slots in your OBI to this Callcentric DID. Then have your GV number forward to your Callcentric DID. For outgoing calls just use GV's web interface to place the call & have it ring your Callcentric DID. Once you pick up the phone it will then ring your calling party & the caller ID will show your GV # to your calling party just like it currently does.

For cheap pay per min call
http://www.localphone.com (cheapest pay-per-minute is by localphone.com at 0.5 cent/minute to US numbers) note that some US numbers are .007 (vs. .005) but those #s are inc. at no extra charge in monthly subsciption plans.
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More Voip options below


XMPP Train Wreck by Google
Nerd Vittles of pbxinaflash prediction's of this upcoming train wreck written in June.
This affects more than just OBI.
http://nerdvittles.com/?p=5758


Some useful information about OBi
  • Even though Google Voice don't have E911 support, you can signup for E911 yourself
    Link to How to set-up 911 calling on an OBi device
    http://blog.obihai.com/2011/11/ca...vices.html
    • Cheapest E911 provider is Anveo (at $0.8/month) http://www.anveo.com/service.asp (FREE plan and add E911)
    • If you are switching from POTS to Obi or other voip services, in many states the old phone line will remain active for calling 911. You just leave your phone connected and they disabled outgoing calls at the phone company computers.
    • if you do not want to 'dedicate' a SIP slot for E911, you can use http://www.gv911.com/ - costs $12/year
    • www.smart911.com [smart911.com] - Smart911 is a free service that allows citizens across the U.S. to create a Safety Profile for their household that includes any information they want 9-1-1 to have in the event of an emergency. Then, when anyone in that household dials 9-1-1 from a phone associated with their Safety Profile, their profile is immediately displayed to the 9-1-1 call taker providing additional information that can be used to facilitate the proper response to the proper location.
      Can check availability under the About page.
  • before you start porting your number to GV, check this first http://www.obihai.com/porttutorial.html
  • configuring 'single' stage dialing here - http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...pic=1103.0
  • Obi device offer a lot of powerful features like Auto Attendant (which you can setup your own Interactive response system), Call bridging, etc. AutoAttendant (AA)/Interactive Voice Response (IVR) make the Obi a bit more dynamic for eg. callback for cheap/free call while away from home, etc. And you can record your own AA message.
    Do google search and look at the Obi Admin Guide for more info.
    http://obihai.com/docs/OBiDeviceAdminGuide.pdf
    http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...topic=66.0
    http://www.obitalk.com/forum/inde...pic=4822.0
    https://www.obitalk.com/forum/ind...pic=2114.0
  • cheapest pay-per-minute is by localphone.com at 0.5 cent/minute to US numbers
  • MagicJack/Nettalk/Ooma can be connected to the POTS line of this obi110 - look at obitalk forum for more info on this. (in theory these are next best to free GV)
  • For people want alternative to GV, here are some good quality and/or low price Voips. Some of those VoIP Services offer phone number in other countries also. Remember this is a standard SIP device so you are not tie to GV and any specific Voip.
  • Some Voip that provide free incoming call. May want to double check and see if this information is out of date or not.
    • For free incoming call, you can also use IpKall. It works with Callcentric to provide free local number in Washington State and free incoming call.
      http://www.ipkall.com/ Be aware your number may get deleted with no obvious reason or notice from ipkall, you don't want your calls to be forwarded to someone else's phone system.
    • Another service offer free incoming phone number
      http://www.callcentric.com/dids/f...one_number
    • sipgate.com is dead as of 10/31/13
  • Here are some of the Voip that offer very low price International Calls
    • Onesuite and localphone offer a lot of local access number so can use it without Voip device. Those two also offer international local access number which you can use outside US.
      http://www.onesuite.com One suite charges $0.025 PER Minute for local calls (US<->US)
      - offer low price long distance (eg. 2.4 cents Per minute to india -- not really cheap when you consider GV offers india for 2 cent flat)
      - Global Call Forwarding
    • http://www.localphone.com (cheapest pay-per-minute is by localphone.com at 0.5 cent/minute to US numbers)
      We'd really like you to give our services a try so here's 25% extra credit to use when you top up your balance. That makes our call rates even cheaper than before.
      Enter code 25EXTRA when purchasing credit.Offer valid until Fri 16 May 2014.

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If you want to ignore the overwhelming blob of text above
Other Options for Home Phone Service to replace GV Home Service:

Offers available via the OBiTALK portal's approved service provider page (prices include E911 + all taxes and fees):

$35/yr - Phone Power: 300 minutes outgoing / unlimited incoming
$40/yr - Anveo: 333 minutes outgoing / unlimited incoming
Anveo- $84/yr for 1000 outgoing minutes per month.

UNLIMITED Incoming + Outgoing

VestaLink - $59/Yr Unlimited minutes to US/Canada

PhonePower - $148/yr for Unlimited minutes to US/Canada + 60mins international calling per month (IF you go through OBI portal it's $60/Yr)

VOIPo - $150 for 2 yrs - Unlimited minutes to US/Canada + 60mins international calling per month + FREE Google Voice # port

NOTE:
both PhonePower & VestaLink spoof outgoing calls with your existing GV number.
VOIPo lets you use Obi but sends you additional VOIP adapter & offers plug and play service.

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Quote from luckygecko View Post :
I am using Debian, but I got distracted on other projects. (a new VPS) I did just install a different DD-WRT version on an old Linksys access-point/router I found in my parts bin. This DD-WRT build supports Milkfish [sipwerk.com], which is a mini sip-router/server.

Well, to reply to myself, the DD-WRT build with Milkfish was slow in regards to my VPN connection, thus I reflashed the router with Tomato(another replacement firmware). (This does not have any VoIP functions besides QoS. Thus, I will have to start looking at the PogoPlug again, and look forward to hearing from techHunter.


On this other thread, we are talking about different uses for a VPS [wikipedia.org]. (Virtural private server) One of the questions over there is, "What can I do with a VPS." Is anyone here hosting SIP software on an internet connected server?
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The GVMate Phone Adapter and GVJackApp for magicJack don’t use XMPP signalling and will continue to work.

Have my GVMate Phone Adapter plugged into an old unused Windows XP laptop and use it with a cordless phone with multiple handsets. Very happy with the built in caller name display and talking caller id features.

See http://www.pcphonesoft.com/gvjack...-2014.html .
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2 days left amazon refund, woohoo!
OBIHAI's boxes are still amazing devices Even without GV, so I don't really get the rush to return them. I actually plan to buy more if they get cheaper.
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Quote from LaurenG5849 View Post :
OBIHAI's boxes are still amazing devices Even without GV, so I don't really get the rush to return them. I actually plan to buy more if they get cheaper.

I was thinking the same thing. Figure I will buy them cheap and hand them out to family for a private calling network.
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I am using the Obi Plus and running multi phones. First was having problems but figured out that it was my configurations that was giving me the problems. Well anyway's you guys should try it out and buy some cisco IP phones on Ebay because you will find that you have a business phone system that is pretty kick A@$ !
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I went through a lot of the posts here, not all, so the answer may be in here somewhere, but what I think
The majority of obi users would like to know is, what is the best alternative to this device for unlimited calling in/out pricewise and quality in voice wise, whether using the obi or not, if there is not a free service, what is the cheapest service, I see callcentric a lot, ooma, is there not a clear cut winner overall for us obi users who just use this device for local unlimited calling in the U.S.
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I went through a lot of the posts here, not all, so the answer may be in here somewhere, but what I think
The majority of obi users would like to know is, what is the best alternative to this device for unlimited calling in/out pricewise and quality in voice wise, whether using the obi or not, if there is not a free service, what is the cheapest service, I see callcentric a lot, ooma, is there not a clear cut winner overall for us obi users who just use this device for local unlimited calling in the U.S.
Before I switched to Google Voice I was with Viatalk. I had no complaints with them. It's $189 for 2 years which comes to just under $8/mo. There is a couple bucks per month for the 911 and such but that's only $2 or so so call it $10. It's unlimited in and out, online voice mail, etc.

I'm waiting to see what really happens with GV but might just switch back to VT if nothing better comes along.
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Instead of returning the obi I ended up keeping it for my parent. I ported my parent number from vonage to voip.ms (no charge) Setup their obi with a google voice for outgoing calls, and voip.ms for in coming calls (2cent a min.) still cheaper than using Vonage or local isp company (phone service)
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Before I switched to Google Voice I was with Viatalk. I had no complaints with them. It's $189 for 2 years which comes to just under $8/mo. There is a couple bucks per month for the 911 and such but that's only $2 or so so call it $10. It's unlimited in and out, online voice mail, etc.

I'm waiting to see what really happens with GV but might just switch back to VT if nothing better comes along.

Thanks for the reply, I will look into VT as an option too.
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Quote from ujica View Post :
I went through a lot of the posts here, not all, so the answer may be in here somewhere, but what I think
The majority of obi users would like to know is, what is the best alternative to this device for unlimited calling in/out pricewise and quality in voice wise, whether using the obi or not, if there is not a free service, what is the cheapest service, I see callcentric a lot, ooma, is there not a clear cut winner overall for us obi users who just use this device for local unlimited calling in the U.S.
1. Incoming: Get a free NY number from Callcentric, and have your GV calls routed to that number. This gives you free unlimited incoming call
2. Outgoing: Sign up with a cheap VoIP provider (voip,ms: .5 cent/minute, Anveo: 1 cent/minute.)
3. E911: Anveo: $.80/month.
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Quote from LaurenG5849 View Post :
1. Incoming: Get a free NY number from Callcentric, and have your GV calls routed to that number. This gives you free unlimited incoming call
2. Outgoing: Sign up with a cheap VoIP provider (voip,ms: .5 cent/minute, Anveo: 1 cent/minute.)
3. E911: Anveo: $.80/month.
or localphone for outgoing - USA .005 (half a cent) - .007 per min. or 5000 min./mo. for $5 (.001/min.)
They also have 800 min./mo. for $1.60/mo. (.002/min.) and 250 min./mo. for $0.75/mo. (.003/min.)
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Quote from rzpatel View Post :
The GVMate Phone Adapter and GVJackApp for magicJack don’t use XMPP signalling and will continue to work.

Have my GVMate Phone Adapter plugged into an old unused Windows XP laptop and use it with a cordless phone with multiple handsets. Very happy with the built in caller name display and talking caller id features.

See http://www.pcphonesoft.com/gvjack...-2014.html .
what is the deal with this GVMate?

Their website looks very dated. This looks like a Obi replacement, the only difference is that it requires a computer? Like how magic jack is?

Is this basically free calling still? If I was to send it to my grandmother in India, they can still call / receive calls for free?
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what is the deal with this GVMate?

Their website looks very dated. This looks like a Obi replacement, the only difference is that it requires a computer? Like how magic jack is?

Is this basically free calling still? If I was to send it to my grandmother in India, they can still call / receive calls for free?
Send'em an OBIHAI and you can have unlimited OBI-to-OBI calls for free.
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Quote from LaurenG5849 View Post :
Send'em an OBIHAI and you can have unlimited OBI-to-OBI calls for free.
yea that's my end solution, but I wanted her to able to make and receive calls to the rest of our family in the US
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