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Promoted 02-21-2014 by brisar at 08:42 AM View Original Post
Amazon.com has Logitech G430 Surround Sound Gaming Headset with Dolby 7.1 Technology for $39.99. Shipping is Free. Thanks calistyle

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Edited February 21, 2014 at 04:17 PM by calistyle
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Last Edited by tryceo February 21, 2014 at 02:02 PM
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#256
Quote from prankies View Post :
I realize the thread is long dead, but I'm still not sure I follow you.

The Amazon page you linked shows the G430 has an analog 3.5mm connection. As far as I know, it is physically impossible to transmit a digital signal over a single 3.5mm connection. That is why I asked if Logitech invented some kind of incredible new proprietary 3.5mm jack, because unless they did, anything "digital" about the transmission ends the second it hits that 3.5mm jack.

Notice that the Amazon page says that the USB dongle is Dolby Digital, while the headset is just "7.1", aka Dolby Headphone. You can plug any headset with a 3.5mm jack into the Logitech USB dongle (or into any Dolby enabled soundcard) and get "Dolby Headphone", which is originally a 7.1 digital encoding converted into a 3.5mm analog signal.

By the time that signal hits your ears, it is analog stereo and no longer digital audio. The 3.5mm jack that stands between the digital dongle and the headset is a physical analog limitation.....
You are correct. These headphones are 3.5mm. There is a USB converter dongle that seems to have embedded product code that the software recognizes and marries to for use. I'm not sure what else resides on the dongle, but it appears all emulation is software-based (on your pc or whatever) and the signal then sent to your headset since your choose there (in the software) to turn the 5.1 driver on or off, and there is a mixer for pushing the 5.1 placement around to your liking.
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#257
Quote from prankies View Post :
Those who already pulled the trigger or who have brand loyalty to Logitech are determined to believe I am full of crap, and those who want more information about other headsets/audio solutions have found it useful and have asked me questions in the thread or via PM.
I bought from this thread and have come back to add my thoughts with hopes that its available for the next go around, for people to read up on and make the right choice for them. I own lots of logitech and still value what you've had to say. But probably that's because I have higher-end headphones in the arsenal. But then again, even if I didn't, you're offering free advice... and when it comes to advice, some people just can't accept others' opinions and will lash out.

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You are right in saying that many will be satisfied with this for $40. But at the same time I would argue that that is because ignorance is bliss, and they haven't really heard what $40 can buy them in terms of real headphones instead of gaming headsets. You can get better sound than this for $40 from a variety of sources, and I ask all those questions because I really can narrow your choices down to a few great sets of headphones depending on your precise usage patterns. You don't think it makes a difference, but every single question I asked does if you genuinely want to find the best product for your specific needs.
For me, I'm more into perfection with music than I am for gaming, and like the simplicity of a gaming combo unit. No doubt I'm wayyyy over-paying with these for a pure music unit, and would seriously suggest a consumer think twice if they're expecting something that will be "also great for music".

I think what people are missing is that you are offering more comprehensive advice. I have the ability to put studio quality MXL mics over my gaming rig and match them through a studio 8-out presonus rackmount sound-card with my higher end headphones. But for me that's overkill and simply not worth it. But if I had that gear and it was set up by my rig 24/7, I might invest my $40 differently than with these, and have a much nicer pair of headphones for music, etc. rather than these -- a comparatively crappy set. I see you're point. But for me, when I game I want to quickly plug in and out, not set up the studio (which for me is not up 24/7 / due to space limitations)

Anyway, thanks for all the detail. Never hurts to learn.
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Last edited by llamasherpa February 27, 2014 at 07:57 AM
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That USB dongle connector is what is sending a digital signal through the cable instead of a normal analog one. In order for a product to even claim Dolby Digital 5.1 sound it has to be using a digital connection and sending 5.1 channels through that connection. Otherwise it won't be certified for that rating. The G430 are certified dolby digital 5.1 headsets. They use a digital signal through that 3.5mm jack from the USB dongle. If you plug the 3.5 mm jack into the normal sound card output, you are only going to have a stereo analog signal.
Don't confuse digital source processing with analog output. Ultimately these headphones are accepting an analog signal on copper wire, not a digital one with 1's and 0's as you seem to be suggesting.

Check out this:

http://www.analog.com/en/content/...p/fca.html

The dongle appears to hold Logitech identifiers for marrying with windows or the Logitech gaming software (which the 3.5mm could not do alone), as well as a converter for digital to analog, and not a lot else.

What's happening here that computer installed Logitech software is digitally modifying the audio signal using a proprietary / certified Dolby 7.1 emulation codec. This codec modifies whatever signal it receives for transmission to your headphones -- modified to emulate the feel of 7.1. Its sent "digital" until it hits the dongle, where the dongle converts that emulation of 0s and1s back to analog for the copper wire, all they way to the speakers at your ear.

No signal itself reaching a speaker is digital. It can be from a digital source.

As for true Dolby 5.1 or 7.1, a proper speaker array is needed for it to be true vs emulated.
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Hope this helps.
It did actually. It's working now, thanks!
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Without reading through everything, can someone tell me if there is a way to turn off the mic feedback when I'm playing a game using push-to-talk?

As in, I don't want the mic on until I press a key on my keyboard to talk within the game I'm playing. As it is, I hear my breathing and every surrounding noise the mic is picking up in addition to the audio from the game. VERY annoying.

I've tried with the USB dongle and plugging the green/pink jacks directly into my motherboard at the rear of the PC.
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#261
An insanely good deal. In for one! Thanks!
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Without reading through everything, can someone tell me if there is a way to turn off the mic feedback when I'm playing a game using push-to-talk?

As in, I don't want the mic on until I press a key on my keyboard to talk within the game I'm playing. As it is, I hear my breathing and every surrounding noise the mic is picking up in addition to the audio from the game. VERY annoying.

I've tried with the USB dongle and plugging the green/pink jacks directly into my motherboard at the rear of the PC.
If you hear yourself on the mic through the headset, go to Sound > Playback devices > right click on headset for properties > Levels > lower Microphone slider down to 0. That should do the trick.
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