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Alternative for Charter Set-top box and CableCARD?

slimwantsfat 401 35 March 27, 2014 at 02:46 PM
Unfortunately my area went digital (or whatever it means) by Charter. I have a Charter set-top box in living room (paying full price of extend basic HD package) and have split cables to bedrooms (done by Charter technicians years ago), so we could watch basic cable in bedrooms. Now they are all gone. Charter will charge leasing fee (7.99 or 9.99 per month plus tax) for each additional set-top box. Is there any alternative way to watch basic cable in our bedrooms without getting slams for additional set-top box leasing fee? Thanks!

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Split the hdmi then use cat 5
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•Customers currently on the “digital” service tier may receive one additional free box for one year.
•Those on Charter’s “limited basic” service are eligible to receive two free boxes for two years
•Customers with “expanded basic” service are eligible to receive two free boxes for one year.
•Charter charges $6.99 per month to rent boxes over those limits
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htpc + hd homerun prime or infinitv6
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htpc + hd homerun prime or infinitv6
I have no clue how to set those things up. Do they all require a PC instead of a TV?
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I have no clue how to set those things up. Do they all require a PC instead of a TV?
PCs and TVs are two very different things. A PC does calculations. A TV displays things.

Many PCs display images onto a monitor, so you can hook up a TV instead of a monitor.

Essentially instead of a cable box connected to your TV, you'd have an HTPC hooked up to your TV and a cablecard tuner that "talks" to the PC.

Cost is around $200 for an HTPC, $100 for an "extender" which will hook up your other TV so it can watch as well, plus $100-200 for the Cablecard tuner. Plus the cost of networking equipment, if your house isn't wired. Clearly it's not an expense you want to incur if you're going to abandon it in a month. However, it's a major slickdeal compared to renting cable boxes year after year. Plus it's scalable, meaning it's easy to add extra TVs/viewing devices. For example, during the opening rounds of March Madness, my wife and I were watching 3 games simultaneously: 2 on HTPCs hooked up to TV monitors and one on my laptop.

HTPCs are waaay better than cable boxes. However, the idea of using a PC as an entertainment device is more than some people can wrap their heads around. It's easy to do, though. My inlaws aren't tech-literate at all and they've had an HTPC setup for a couple of years now with only a few minor difficulties (mostly on the part of Comcast).
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charter gives you 1-2 more boxes free
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Split the hdmi then use cat 5

Not sure that is actually a splitter. Per Monoprice

Note: The packaging for this extender is improperly printed and erroneously identifies this device as a 1x2 Splitter. This is in fact an HDMI extender over Cat5e/6 cable and not a splitter device. Updated packaging is on order and this will be corrected as soon as possible. We apologize for any inconvenience or confusion this may cause.
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It was weird I tried to insert 2 images one splitter the other HMDI to cat 5 to extend it



http://www.amazon.com/HD-102-Powe...i+splitter
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Quote from bonkman View Post :
PCs and TVs are two very different things. A PC does calculations. A TV displays things.

Many PCs display images onto a monitor, so you can hook up a TV instead of a monitor.

Essentially instead of a cable box connected to your TV, you'd have an HTPC hooked up to your TV and a cablecard tuner that "talks" to the PC.

Cost is around $200 for an HTPC, $100 for an "extender" which will hook up your other TV so it can watch as well, plus $100-200 for the Cablecard tuner. Plus the cost of networking equipment, if your house isn't wired. Clearly it's not an expense you want to incur if you're going to abandon it in a month. However, it's a major slickdeal compared to renting cable boxes year after year. Plus it's scalable, meaning it's easy to add extra TVs/viewing devices. For example, during the opening rounds of March Madness, my wife and I were watching 3 games simultaneously: 2 on HTPCs hooked up to TV monitors and one on my laptop.

HTPCs are waaay better than cable boxes. However, the idea of using a PC as an entertainment device is more than some people can wrap their heads around. It's easy to do, though. My inlaws aren't tech-literate at all and they've had an HTPC setup for a couple of years now with only a few minor difficulties (mostly on the part of Comcast).
My set-top box is in living room. TVs are in different bedrooms and some are upstairs. The house is wired with charter's cable, no any other networking. I guess I will have to do a major work in the house to get it laid out? I read some cable tuner review and it seems that you still require to lease a cablecard from Charter ($8/month). If so, I still can't get away from each display with $8 for all the TVs in the house, can I?

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charter gives you 1-2 more boxes free
I already have 1 box. the 2nd box will be only free for 1 year. Then $7/month +tax & fees ( who knows what it will end up with).

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It was weird I tried to insert 2 images one splitter the other HMDI to cat 5 to extend it



http://www.amazon.com/HD-102-Powe...i+splitter
I don't think those cable will be long enough and I have to watch TV on a PC/monitor now? Any guide on setups?


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Another thought. Will TiVo Mini can be replacement for charter's cablecard and/or set-top box? http://www.amazon.com/TiVo-TCDA92...TiVo+Minis
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My set-top box is in living room. TVs are in different bedrooms and some are upstairs. The house is wired with charter's cable, no any other networking. I guess I will have to do a major work in the house to get it laid out? I read some cable tuner review and it seems that you still require to lease a cablecard from Charter ($8/month). If so, I still can't get away from each display with $8 for all the TVs in the house, can I?



I already have 1 box. the 2nd box will be only free for 1 year. Then $7/month +tax & fees ( who knows what it will end up with).


I don't think those cable will be long enough and I have to watch TV on a PC/monitor now? Any guide on setups?


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Another thought. Will TiVo Mini can be replacement for charter's cablecard and/or set-top box? http://www.amazon.com/TiVo-TCDA92...TiVo+Minis
I didn't know TiVO minis existed. A Tivo + Tivo minis would do what you want. However, that might not be saving you money depending on TiVO fees.
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I didn't know TiVO minis existed. A Tivo + Tivo minis would do what you want. However, that might not be saving you money depending on TiVO fees.
$499 life time. The question I have is 1) Does Tivo box decode Charter HD signal (they pay cable company for the rights, we pay them life time or subscription fee). 2) If I have 3 minis ($79 each), can all 4 TVs (1 with Tivo 3 with Minis) can watch different program at same time?
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$499 life time. The question I have is 1) Does Tivo box decode Charter HD signal (they pay cable company for the rights, we pay them life time or subscription fee). 2) If I have 3 minis ($79 each), can all 4 TVs (1 with Tivo 3 with Minis) can watch different program at same time?
By skimming the mini site, it appears that the minis work like extenders. TiVOs are cablecard devices. You'll get a CableCard from Charter (if they rent you 1 box for free, you should be able to trade the box in for a free cablecard) and plug it into your Tivo, then activate it (by calling Charter or going online). The minis effectively make it so that the Tivo is hooked up to each TV simultaneously. The amount of channels you'll be able to watch simultaneously will depend on how many tuners your TiVO has.

You'll need to network your house. You can use Moca as pointed out above. But powerline may be easier. Some powerline deals have been on FP recently.
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