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Last Edited by RandallDeals July 28, 2014 at 01:30 PM
I'm not sure why this hasn't been posted here but it's been possible for a long time now. This is not related to methods about swapping upgrades or buying extra lines. My wife and I upgraded from the Samsung Galaxy S3 to the Samsung Galaxy S5 for $100 at Bestbuy.com during their last sale, got the free $50 gift cards from the February promo, and we still have our unlimited data. Unfortunately the S5 is back to $150 at Bestbuy right now. If you didn't join in on the $50 promo, you won't be able to join in again this year. I attached some images from my Verizon account and email. But hurry you never know when this will be patched. And as always, do this at your own risk!

Another positive side effect to this trick is that myself as well as others have reported that the $35 one time activation fee per phone did not show up on our bill when using this method. It may be because the upgrade fee is also attached to the "switch order"? (The switch order is explained later)

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/veriz...1300050002

Instructions
Purchase your phone through Bestbuy.com and choose the option to ship the phone to your home. Do not purchase instore, activate instore, or choose instore pickup. While adding the phone to your cart it'll ask you to provide your Verizon login credentials; do so but choose the option "Keep existing plan". When you choose add to cart you'll see "There's a change from Verizon Wireless for unlimited data plans. Verizon Wireless has ended this plan option, so when you upgrade you'll be switched to their most common 2GB plan by default." but we've all ignored it. Once your phone arrives at your home, DO NOT TURN IT ON!!!!! Pull the SIM card out of the back of the phone and chop it up. For some phones, the SIM will come in a small box that you can toss out. Turning your phone on with the new SIM card or calling Verizon to activate the new SIM card WILL remove your unlimited data plan.

Take your SIM card from your old phone and place it into your new phone. Your SIM is already activated so there's nothing more you need to do. Your phone should be good to go and your Verizon contract will be renewed for 2 years but your unlimited data will stay intact. As required, your contract is renewed and as specified on Bestbuy's website you said you wanted to keep your unlimited data so you're not breaking your terms of service or doing anything unethical.

All SIM cards are not created equal. There are 3 common types of SIM cards; Mini SIM, Micro SIM, and Nano SIM. The Mini SIM is in some older phones. I can tell you for certain that the Samsung Galaxy S3, S4, and S5 all use the micro SIM card. Some iPhones use Nano SIM cards. The HTC Thunderbird uses a mini SIM card. However, they are all basically the same SIM but different sizes. This means you can cut your SIM to a smaller shape if need be or you can buy an adapter to make it bigger. If you're nervous about cutting your SIM, you can buy a special cutting tool to do it for you. I started a wiki for adding each phone and the SIM card size it uses.

This Youtube video provides some great instructions for cutting your SIM card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6T1Mygucak

Here are a bunch of different SIM cutters on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb...d%20cutter

We didn't have to cut our SIM cards. My brother in law cut his HTC Thunderbolt mini SIM card down to a micro SIM card and it worked perfect. If you destroy your SIM card, you can visit a Verizon store to get a free one. (It's not free at the small shack like / mall Verizon stores) However, I would avoid that at all costs as they might see you just bought a new phone. However, unless you have a mean Verizon rep, your UDP should stay intact.

If at any time Verizon or Bestbuy says there's a problem with your order and requests you to call in DON'T! Cancel your order with Bestbuy, return the phone, and try again later. Some users have reported that this occurs because they're upgrading on a secondary line. I personally had no trouble but their solution has always been to transfer the upgrade to the main line through Bestbuy's website.

FACTS
  1. You must already have an unlimited data plan (UDP)
  2. Only possible ONLINE through Bestbuy.com* (Moto Maker uses the Bestbuy system so some people have reported success with them as well)
  3. You MUST ship the phone. You cannot pick it up instore.
  4. You CANNOT use the SIM card that comes with the shipped phone. You must use your old SIM card. If it is too big you will have to cut it down.
  5. This trick will leave a "switch order" on your Verizon account preventing you from making any account changes. If you need to make a change, a tier 2 tech can remove it. Check out the quote below from a few Verizon reps who posted to this thread.
  6. Using your old SIM, some features/apps on your new phone will not be available ex. Isis Wallet. (*Once you activate with your old SIM it is possible to get a replacement SIM to fix this issue)
  7. If you run into a problem with your Bestbuy order CANCEL IT! Don’t call in and give them your Verizon info or you will lose your UDP!
  8. Bestbuy's website does have a few disclaimers about losing unlimited data but we've all ignored them.
  9. Some people are unable to check out due to order problems. This is usually because your have an outstanding bill due.
  10. Keep an eye on your Verizon account to make sure your plan doesn't change and your contract end date extends two years.
  11. Some who accidentally activated the new SIM were able to gripe and complain to get their UDP back
  12. If your phone is too old to have a SIM card in it, there are some tricks available. Verizon allows you to activate any Verizon phone on any account. (Assuming no past bills are due on that phone or stolen) So you can take your friends phone into a Verizon store and say, "My friend gave me his/her old phone and I would like to activate it on my account". Verizon will be happy to do so. They will head to the back of the store, grab a SIM card that fits that phone, and activate the SIM card to your Verizon account. At this point, you now have a SIM card for your account. Take that SIM card out of the phone you just activated and place it into the new phone you just bought from Bestbuy.com. You or your friend will have no phone during this time while you wait for the Bestbuy.com order. You should obtain the SIM card using your friends phone BEFORE ordering on Bestbuy.com. As noted before, you'll have a "switch order" on your account so you'll want the SIM before the "switch order" hits your account.
  13. On that note, just to clarify, your Verizon account is attached to your SIM card, NOT your phone. That means you can pull your SIM card from your phone and place it in most other phones and it'll work perfect. This is intentional and is a feature.
  14. As far as we can tell, the only way to lose your unlimited data is by using the SIM that came with the phone or by walking through the activation process with Verizon on the phone.
  15. And finally, here's 38 pages of questions, answers, and success stories from which this method originated. You'll want to quickly move a few pages in as the first few are a little confusing - http://forums.androidcentral.com/...price.html

NEW FACTS
  1. Users have confirmed the same process "partially" works for Amazon.com. The difference is the "Customer Agreement" receipt for Bestbuy.com states "Keep Existing Plan" while the Amazon orders state that you chose the "2 GB Plan". Despite this receipt notice, users are reporting that they're unlimited data stays in tact. This may or may not make a difference in the long run. (Open the Verizon app, click "Profile", and then click "View Receipts")
  2. Users have confirmed the same process "partially" works for Costco.com. Users have reported the same "Customer Agreement" receipt issue of showing the 2GB plan.

Worthy Quotes
Quote from kalel33 View Post :
I was a supervisor with Verizon customer care and this method should work. The change in the data plan is attached to the switch order that comes when you activate the sim card. If the sim card that came with the new phone is never activated then the feature is never changed. The only problem this causes is that there will now be a switch order on the account that won't allow you to change anything(minutes, text, etc.) If you get a rep that knows the backdoor way of deleting a switch order then you'll be lucky.
Quote from tiny8291 View Post :
Over the phone the store will mess it up... To remove the switch over, tell them that you reactivated your phone and now you can't make a plan change and that last rep said you need to talk to tear 2 tech. And they can remove it in about 2 min
Quote from chauntbuckler View Post :
just received my S5 upgrade from S4. worked like a charm!
Quote from bucky13 View Post :
just got my s5, upgraded from the droid4, swapped the sim cards and getting txts w/o issues.
Quote from drealiT View Post :
Worked like a charm, Galaxy S3 to HTC One (m8) upgrade complete. Thanks OP!!!

Seriously.... destroy the new SIM. You don't want someone getting a hold of that.
And there are several other users who have reported success in this thread!
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Last Edited by JulesJam March 21, 2015 at 11:28 AM
Another thread has been started in Deal Talk to help to avoid the confusion that has resulted when erroneous information gets posted in the wiki and also because there is erroneous information in the OP. The new thread is here:

http://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-verizon-how-to-use-a-subsidized-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-plan-or-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1


PLEASE READ THIS WIKI BEFORE ATTEMPTING ANY OF THESE METHODS!!!!!!!!

There is a ton of useful information in this wiki that will help ensure that you do not lose UDP. No one should attempt the Best Buy Method or any of the other upgrade methods without reading this wiki.



UDP = unlimited data plan

TDP = tiered data plan (e.g., 2GB, 5GB, etc.)

Basic Line = Dumbphone or feature phone line

Data Max Plan = 6GB of data for $30/mo - this plan is offered to those who have a UDP line if they give up UDP. The Data Max plan currently allows for subsidized upgrades as long as you are offered the 6GB data option at check out.

Nationwide Connect Plan= Not a smartphone plan. While it may offer UDP, it is UDP only for basic phones and you cannot put a smartphone on a Nationwide Connect line.

3rd party retailer = any place other than Verizon. 3rd party retailers include manufacturers like Apple. Ordering thru the Comcast link is ordering thru Verizon, NOT a 3rd party retailer. This is the Comcast link:

http://www.comcast.com/verizon-wireless.html


VAR = Verizon Authorized Retailer - these are Verizon franchises and unlike Verizon corporate stores, the reps are more friendly towards working with you to keep your UDP.

VPR= Verizon Premium Retailer, same as a VAR.

iPhone 4s = a 3G phone. The iP4s is NOT a 4G LTE phone and its SIM card is NOT a 4G LTE SIM card. You cannot use the SIM card in the iP4s for any of these methods!!! The iP4s is a 3G phone.

4G LTE SIM Cards: These are only found in 4G LTE phones. Any SIM card in a 3G phone is not a 4G LTE SIM card and rather is only for GSM international use. Whenever SIM card is mentioned in any of the methods, it is a 4G LTE SIM card that the method is referring to.

Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, Thunderbolt, DNA, Rezound or a Bionic: Despite these being 4G LTE phones, the Verizon system sees them as 3G phones and you will get the incompatible data plan error just like with a 3G phone if you try to do certain methods. This means if you try to do methods like UDVZWIP4 you will likely need to resort to the Best Buy Method instead. And if you try to do FAM, you will likely have to resort to Aohus and cut down your SIM card. Same for Krnsamiam - you will likely have to resort to Jaycemiskel and cut down your SIM card. [UPDATE]A poster reported he got the incompatible data plan error when he attempted UDVZWIP4 Method and a Note3 was on his line.


BE SURE AND READ THE UPDATE TO THE JAYCEMISKEL METHOD IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE THE JAYCEMISKEL METHOD


Calling Verizon to Ask About These Methods: It makes no sense at all to call Verizon to ask about these methods. The reps either don't know what they are talking about or outright will lie. It is foolish to think anyone at Verizon will help you to do these methods. And the corporate store reps are downright malicious and will switch you off of UDP for no reason at all.

What stops Verizon from going through accounts later down the road and switching these "upgraded" UDPs to TDPs? Nothing. Just like nothing stops them from eliminating UDP for any reason at all (or no reason at all) at any time. The terms of the Customer Agreement say Verizon can make any changes to your service that they want to at any time for any reason (or for no reason). They just have to give you written notice and then you have 60 days to complain. If you make a timely complaint and they won't change your service back to the way it was, then they have to let you out of your contract w/o an ETF if you ask them to. However, the newer Customer Agreements now include the clause that you agree to keep a minimum $30/mo data plan on the line for 2 years so there is the possibility that Verizon would try to enforce that.

It seems likely that the people who are the MOST vulnerable to losing UDP are those who are off contract b/c it would cost Verizon nothing to kick them off of UDP. Similarly it seems likely that the people who are the most protected are those who are on contract because Verizon would lose the subsidy if they kicked you off of your UDP and you asked to be let out of your contract w/o an ETF. But Verizon could try to argue that UDP is $29.99/mo which is less than the minimum $30/mo and claim to be enforcing the contract. The only way to stay on contract is to use a subsidized upgrade. And all of the newer Customer Agreements have the clause in them about the minimum $30/mo data plan.

Whether you are on contract or off contract, you simply have no ability at all to force Verizon to let you keep UDP if they decide to eliminate UDPs. None. All you can do to attempt to deter them is to make it more expensive for them to take it away from us by using your UDP line's upgrade.

Also you have to be realistic about the likelihood of Verizon's willingness to incur the cost of hand auditing accounts to selectively remove UDP from lines that were upgraded. The more realistic scenario is that Verizon eliminates UDP across the board - it would be cheaper than hand auditing accounts - or only eliminating it for people who are off contract. Those off contract have no leverage at all with Verizon. If you are on contract, at least you can ask to get out of your contract w/o an ETF and keep your subsidized phone. All of the newer Verizon 4G LTE phones are GSM unlocked and will work on AT&T and TMobile, although depending on the phone they may not have radios that will work on all of the LTE bands of those other carriers.



Upgrade Transfer Methods are the Preferred Methods: When using a UDP line's upgrade, the upgrade transfer methods are always preferred over upgrading directly on a UDP line. The only places you can transfer upgrades online are Verizon and Best Buy. The 4ever Method is best, but Switzma and Snkydvl are the next best. 4ever is best because there is no risk of losing your UDP and if you run into problems you can call Verizon for assistance. That could change in the future, but as of the date this was written it is true. With Switzma and Snkydvl, there also is no risk of losing UDP; rather the risk is that you will be stuck with a minimum $30/mo data plan commitment for 2 years on your basic line. However, that can be reversed by returning the phone within 14 days. UPDATE: It looks like some people may no longer be able to transfer upgrades through Best Buy online. It's worth a try though because some people are reporting that it works for them. You can try a different browser if you are blocked from doing the transfer through BB. Also you can try checking the eligibility of the line you want the upgrade transferred TO and see if they system will let you transfer the upgrade to it.



Ordering through Verizon versus ordering through a 3rd party retailer: When you order through Verizon, you can use the SIM card that the phone ships with. It is only when you order through a 3rd party retailer that you destroy the SIM card that the phone ships with.

As explained below, ordering through Verizon results in a pending equipment order (PEO) being placed on your line. As long as you avoid completing the pending equipment order, you keep your UDP (or avoid a minimum $30/mo 2 year data plan commitment on a basic line).

When you order through a 3rd party retailer, a pending activation (PA) is put on your line and the SIM card the phone ships with is associated with a switch order. As long as you do not activate the SIM card that ships with the phone, the switch order is never completed and you keep your UDP (or avoid a minimum $30/mo 2 year data plan commitment on a basic line).

Both pending equipment orders and pending activations have been falling off of people's lines in about a month. It is best to avoid calling Verizon if you have a pending equipment order or a pending activation on any of the UDP lines on your account (or on a basic line if you used one of the methods below involving a basic line). In general, it is best to avoid Verizon corporate stores altogether if you have a UDP line as the corporate store reps have been reported to manually switch people off of UDP for no reason at all.



2051 Error through Best Buy: If you get the 2051 error when trying to order through Best Buy when attempting to verify your account information, you can click the "Return to Cart" button and then attempt to verify again to see if it will go through.


Other error Messages when ordering thru 3rd party retailers: If you are getting error messages when ordering thru a 3rd party retailer, the things you can try are:

1) be sure you are using the correct billing password (which is not the same as your online password) - you can reset your billing password online or by phone if necessary;

2) order in the account owner's name only;

3) use a different browser - particularly FireFox if ordering through Best Buy;

4) check out as Guest instead of logging into your Best Buy account (you will still be able to enter your Best Buy rewards number);

5) pay off your balance in full even if it is not yet due; and

6) call Verizon to make sure you are not blocked from ordering thru 3rd party retailers.

With the exception of the 4ever method, if you call the 3rd party retailer you risk that they will involve Verizon and process the order manually and you will lose UDP.

Note: If you have a business account, you cannot order thru 3rd party retailers. A business account is not the same thing as an employer discount. A business account is one in which the account is owned by the business itself.


Incompatible Data Plan Errors when ordering thru Verizon: If you are being told to switch to a new plan because your current plan is incompatible when ordering thru Verizon, try using a different browser. Internet Explorer and Firefox seem to work the best. You also can try ordering through the iconic portal using the Comcast link.

http://www.comcast.com/verizon-wireless.html



Returning an unopened phone and/or the SIM card that ships with the phone to a 3rd party retailer: Several posters have reported being switched off of their UDP when they returned an unopened phone and/or the SIM card that ships with the phone to a 3rd party retailer. Presumably this occurred because the unopened phone got shipped out to another person and the SIM card was still tied to the switch order on the poster's line or because the SIM card got reused and activated and was still tied to the switch order on the poster's line. Thus when you order through a 3rd party retailer, it is wise not to return the SIM card the phone ships with. The vast majority of people can return the phones without the SIM cards they ship with no issues. Obviously a phone must be opened to remove the SIM card it ships with. Thus, it is unwise to refuse delivery of a phone for the same reason.

The only person to report successfully keeping UDP after returning the SIM card that ships with the phone to a 3rd party retailer said that after he/she returned it, he/she activated a new SIM card on their line. So presumably, activating a new SIM card on your line after you return the SIM card that ships with the phone to a 3rd party retailer breaks the link between your account and the SIM card that shipped with the phone.



Activating phones, SIM cards and doing phone switches online: Verizon's system requires that you receive a text confirmation when you activate a phone, activate a SIM card or when you switch phones online. This text confirmation can only be sent to a phone that has been on its line continuously for at least 30 days. Swapping SIM cards obviously does not involve a confirmation text.

To activate a phone on a line or to switch phones, you click Activate or Switch Devices, select the appropriate line and follow the instructions (i.e., enter IMEI and SIM card number when told). It is a simple process that anyone attempting any of these methods needs to familiarize themselves with before they order their subsidized phones.

If your method involves moving phones around b/t lines, be sure that at least 1 phone on your account has been on its line for at least 30 days so you can receive the confirmation text. In general, the exception to that is if you are doing the 4ever Method - you can call Verizon to move phones around on your lines if you do the 4ever Method. However, even if you do the 4ever Method, if you have a pending activation or pending equipment order on any of your lines (especially a pending equipment order) it is best not to have to call Verizon until those fall off the line.

If 2 phones have the same size SIM card, you can just swap SIMs to activate a new phone or switch phones b/t lines. In fact, if 2 phones have the same size SIM cards the Verizon system will force you to swap SIMs.


Activating a SIM card obtained by mail from Verizon using the automated system: Never do this ever if you have a UDP line regardless of whether or not you have used any of these methods to use a UDP line's upgrade. People have lost UDP by doing this even when it had nothing to do with them upgrading their UDP lines. DO NOT USE THE VERIZON AUTOMATED SYSTEM TO ACTIVATE A SIM CARD EVER IF YOU HAVE UDP.


NFC and non-NFC SIM cards: All of the newer 4G LTE Androids use NFC SIM cards. These SIM cards are necessary to use Softcard. iPhones use non-NFC SIM cards as Apple Pay does not rely on the SIM card for its security features. If you try to activate a non-NFC SIM card for the first time in a phone that uses an NFC SIM card (or vice versa), the reps will get an incompatible SIM card error. However, once the SIM cards are active they can be swapped between devices that use the other kind of SIM card but you may run into problems with VoLTE if you are using an NFC SIM card in an iPhone. To determine which type of SIM card you have, search online to find pictures of the differences between the two types.
UPDATE: Softcard will cease to exist on 4/1/15 so there is no longer any need for the NFC SIM cards. If you already have one, it isn't an issue, but if you don't, you don't need to worry about getting one any longer.


Obtaining a new SIM card for a UDP line after doing one of the methods in this wiki: While in theory you can call 611 or go into a Verizon corporate store to get a new SIM card for a device on your UDP line for free, people have been switched off of UDP by malicious reps when they have done this even when they never used any of the methods in this wiki. If you need a new SIM card for a UDP line it is safest to go to a VAR and have them activate a new SIM card in your device. A VAR will likely charge you around $10 for a new SIM card and some charge more so shop around as there may be more than one VAR in your area. NEVER go into a Verizon corporate store or call 611 when you have a pending activation or pending equipment order (especially a pending equipment order) on a UDP line.



Transferring Upgrades: Only 2 sites allow you to transfer upgrades between lines online - Verizon and Best Buy. When you transfer an upgrade from one line to another online, you must complete the purchase right then or the upgrade reverts back to the line on which it originated. UPDATE: Some posters are reporting that they are not being offered the option of an upgrade transfer when attempting to do so on the Best Buy site. You can try typing in the phone number of the line you want to transfer the upgrade TO and see if it gives you the option of transferring an upgrade to it.

Here is an explanation of the process along with screen shots of an upgrade transfer through BB:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=73272444&postcount=16126

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Store reps at Best Buy, Costco and Staples can transfer upgrades in-store for you if you are doing the 4ever method in-store. There are probably other 3rd party retailers who also can do in-store upgrade transfers but Apple stores cannot do upgrade transfers in-store. YOU CANNOT TRANSFER AN UPGRADE TO A LINE THAT IS CURRENTLY ELIGIBLE FOR ITS OWN UPGRADE.

Also, when you transfer an upgrade to another line, it is the DONOR line's contract that is extended, not the recipient line's contract. The recipient's line contract end date and upgrade dates do not change when you do an upgrade transfer.



Getting UDP back if you lose it: If you lose UDP, in order to get it back, 2 things must happen:

1) You MUST return the phone and get your upgrade restored and contract reversed; and
2) You MUSTfile an inactive pricing request (IPR).

Regular reps cannot give you your UDP back. Only through an IPR can you get your UDP back. And the IPR department will not give you back your UDP unless you return the phone and get your upgrade restored/contract reversed. The regular reps can put you on the 6GB Data Max plan until your IPR is processed. You only have 14 days to get put on the 6GB Data Max plan - once you are out of the return period for the device, the reps will not switch you to the 6GB Data Max plan.



Selling phones you purchase using a subsidized upgrade: Phones that you purchase using a subsidized upgrade are yours and you can do with them what you like, including sell them. However, if you use any of the 3rd party retailer methods in this wiki, you MUST remove the SIM card that ships with the phone before you sell it or give it away OR YOU WILL LOSE UDP IF THE SIM CARD IS EVER ACTIVATED OR GET STUCK WITH A $30/MO 2 YEAR DATA COMMITMENT ON YOUR BASIC LINE IF YOU USED A BASIC LINE'S UPGRADE. Moreover, Verizon and all 3rd party retailers require as part of their terms of sale that you at least activate the phone on your line before you remove it from your account. If you don't they could charge you the full retail price of the phone (although this rarely occurs). If you order through Amazon and don't activate the subsidized phone on your account, YOU WILL BE CHARGED A $400 SECONDARY ETF. Other 3rd party retailers charge a secondary ETF also if you don't activate a subsidized phone on your account. Moreover, if you get stuck with a pending activation on your line and need to involve Tier 2 Tech Support to get it pushed off of the line, the tech support reps will see that the device was never active on your account. So it is best to activate the subsidized phones on your account and remove the SIM cards they ship with before you sell or give them away.



If you are asking for help, please describe you plan/lines/phones in chart form like this:

Nationwide 1400 Minute Family Share
L1: UDP iPhone 5 Yes
L2: TDP iPhone 4s No
L3: Basic phone No

where L1, L2 and L3 mean Line 1, Line 2 and Line 3, UDP, TDP and basic phone are defined above and Yes/No means "Yes" the line has an upgrade available or "No" the line does not have an upgrade available. It makes it easier for people to help you if you do this.



THESE METHODS ARE ONLY FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO USE A UDP OR BASIC PHONE LINE'S UPGRADE WITHOUT LOSING UDP OR BEING STUCK WITH A 2 YEAR DATA PLAN REQUIREMENT ON A BASIC PHONE LINE.

If you are using a TDP line's upgrade, you do not need any of these methods. You can use a TDP line's upgrade anywhere you want to and do anything you want with the phone you purchase using a TDP line's upgrade including putting it on a UDP line and using the SIM card that ships with the device and it won't affect your UDP line.

And although it goes without saying that if you are willing to pay full retail for a phone rather than using a UDP line's subsidized upgrade you will not in any way jeopardize your UDP, apparently not everyone understands that. If you are paying full retail for a phone, you can buy the phone anywhere and do anything you want with it including putting it on a UDP line or using the SIM card that the phone ships with.


There are 3 Rules that must be satisfied for you to be able to use these methods:

1) You must have a 4G LTE device active on your UDP line before you order;

2) You must order online; and

3) You must select ship-to-home not pick-up in store.


If you can't satisfy all 3 of those rules, you cannot use these methods.*


* The 4ever Method is the exception to Rules 1, 2 and 3. FAM and Krnsamiam are additional possible exceptions to Rule 1 HOWEVER some people have experienced the incompatible data plan error even when doing these methods when there was a 3G phone on the UDP line. If you are doing 4ever Method and get that error when attempting to switch the new phone to the UDP line, you can enlist the help of a VAR or even Verizon. That is not the case if you are doing FAM or Krnsamiam. So the SAFEST thing to do is to have a 4G LTE phone on your UDP line BEFORE you order your new phone.



PENDING ACTIVATIONS, PENDING EQUIPMENT ORDERS AND LINE ERRORS

With the general exception of the 4ever Method, all of these methods will leave either a pending activation or a pending equipment order on your line. However, some people get stuck with a pending activation on their TDP line even if they do the 4ever Method.

Pending activations can result in you not being able to make changes to your line and/or to activate/switch devices on your line. For the overwhelming majority of people, these pending activations fall off of the line on their own in about a month. They occur most commonly when you purchase from a 3rd party retailer.

If you have a family plan, to check to see if you have a pending activation on your line:

1) log onto Verizon online and click activate or switch devices;
2) select a different line from the one whose upgrade was used;
3) click switch devices and select the line whose upgrade was used but do not proceed any further.

If you get the message below then you have a pending activation on the line:

Our records indicate you recently purchased a device for this line of service but have not activated it yet. You have the option to proceed with your device swap after you have activated your new device, or you may contact Customer Service at (800) 922-0204 for further assistance. This is what it looks like:

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If you have an individual plan, to check to see if you have a pending activation on your line:

1) log onto Verizon online and click activate or switch devices; and
2) see if the system will let you proceed but do not proceed any further.

If you are not able to proceed, then you have a pending activation on the line. If you are able to proceed, you may or may not have a pending activation on the line - to know for sure you would have to try to change a feature on your line. If you are blocked from changing features on your line then you have a pending activation on your line.


Pending equipment orders occur most commonly when you do the methods through Verizon. They usually fall off of a line within a month. When you have a pending equipment order on your line, you will see the Verify Your Order/Device screen as shown in this screen shot:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2950410&d=1413333262

If you were to click "Next" when you see that screen, you would complete the pending equipment order and either lose your UDP or get stuck with a minimum $30/mo 2 year data plan on your basic line depending on which method you used. Rather than clicking "Next" when you see that screen if you need to activate a phone on a line, you can click on "Not activating my new device at this time, take me to the Activate or Switch Device page." The only exception to this rule is the 4ever Method if you are activating the new phone on the TDP line on which it was ordered. If you do the 4ever Method, you want to click "Next" and verify the order/device to activate the new phone on the TDP line.

It is best not to call Verizon or go into a corporate store or VAR as long as a pending activation or pending equipment order is on your line.


Many people upgrading through apple.com are getting this line error when they go to activate or switch a device on their line after upgrading through apple.com:

"Your request cannot be completed. We cannot process your request at this time, please try again later."

This error results in you not being able to activate or switch a device on your line yourself and having to involve Verizon. FOR THIS REASON, THE UDVZWIP4 METHOD WILL NOT WORK IF YOU ORDER FROM APPLE.COM. The error has fallen off in time for at least 2 posters who had it and then it fell off on its own. So while you can do the Best Buy Method through apple.com, you cannot do the UDVZWIP4 Method.


Also, 1 poster lost his UDP after using these methods 4 months later when he activated a new SIM card he got from Verizon using the automated number that was in the instructions that came with the SIM card. If you do need a new SIM card after doing these methods, do not call the automated number to activate a new SIM card - go to a VAR and purchase one and have them activate it for you. Wait for any pending activation/equipment order or line error to fall off of your line in about a month before you go to the VAR for a new SIM card.



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For ANY of these methods to work, you MUST have a Verizon 4G LTE active on your account before you order your new smartphone. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO THIS RULE* and there is no getting out of this requirement. These methods simply will not work without a 4G LTE PHONE active on your account before your new smartphone arrives.

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* UPDATE - 4ever may work with 3G phones on the line but it is safest to have a 4G LTE phone on the UDP line BEFORE you order the new phone because some people are getting the incompatible data plan error even when they do the 4ever Method.


If you have an individual plan, you can only do the Best Buy Method or the UDVZWIP4 Method and both of those require a 4G LTE phone on your line.


I. If you want to order a subsidized phone using your UDP line's upgrade through Verizon online, the 4ever Method, the Snkydvl Method, the Frenzytom Method, the Flying Arrow Method, the Scyzek Method* and the Aohus Method are the only methods that have been confirmed to work after 8/24/14. Please note if you are doing the 4ever or Scyzek Method that you cannot transfer an upgrade to a line that is currently eligible for its own upgrade.

*UPDATE - Scyzek Method is unnecessary. 4ever was able to go in-store and transfer a UDP line upgrade to a TDP line, upgrade AND activate on the TDP line using the SIM card the phone comes with and did not lose UDP. Then 4ever did a device swap to get the new phone on the UDP line. Doing this prevents a pending activation from being stuck on the TDP line.

Also - the Flying Arrow Method has been confirmed to work after 8/25/14.


II. If you want to order a subsidized phone using your UDP line's upgrade through a 3rd party retailer online, the difference with ordering from Best Buy as opposed to all of the others is that you don't have to pick a new data plan if you order though BB and your customer agreement will say that you keep your existing plan. With all other 3rd party retailers you have to pick a new data plan and your customer agreement will say that. Also, Amazon has a secondary etf of $400 if you violate their terms so read Amazon's terms before you order from Amazon. Other 3rd party retailers may have one too. UPDATEAmazon has emailed at least 1 poster who did the Best Buy Method through Amazon to try to enforce their activation policies, which results in a $400 charge to your credit card if you don't return the phone.

DO NOT ORDER FROM COSTCO OR MOTOROLA IF YOU ARE DOING THE BEST BUY OR UDVZWIP4 METHODS AS PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR UDP BEFORE THE PHONE EVEN SHIPPED!!!! COSTCO IS RANDOMLY CHECKING THESE ORDERS AND MANUALLY SWITCHING PEOPLE OFF OF UDP!!!! MOTOROLA IS DOING THE SAME THING!!!!


III. If you want to order a subsidized phone using your basic phone line's upgrade through a 3rd party retailer online, the Jaycemiskel Method is the only method that has been confirmed to work after 8/24/14 and not result in a 2yr data plan requirement on the basic phone line. It should work with all 3rd party retailers who will ship to home but has only been tried at BB online so far. Jaycemiskel also works through Verizon as does Krnsamiam and neither method results in a 2 year data plan commitment on the basic line.
UPDATE: One poster reported activating a different basic device on the line 2 months after successively doing jaycemiskel through apple.com and when they dialed *228 to complete the activation, a 2GB data plan appeared on the basic line that had not been there before and could not be removed. So it looks like you cannot activate a different device on the basic line after doing Jaycemiskel thru a 3rd party retailer w/o getting stuck with the 2 year data plan commitment.


It's possible that other methods will work too, but these are the only methods that have been shown to work after 8/24/14. IF YOU INVOLVE A VERIZON REPRESENTATIVE IN ANY OF THESE METHODS AS THEY CAN SWITCH YOU OFF OF UDP MANUALLY OR STICK YOU WITH A 2 YEAR DATA PLAN REQUIREMENT MANUALLY.


4ever Method

The 4ever method is nothing more than the old upgrade transfer method except with a TDP line rather than a basic line. The 4ever Method is the preferred method if you have a TDP line to transfer an upgrade to as you will not be left with a pending activation or pending equipment order on your line. You must first activate the new phone on the TDP line in order to clear the PA/PEO from the TDP line. Then you put the TDP line's old phone back on the TDP line and the new phone on the UDP line.

When you do the 4ever Method, it is the UDP line's upgrade that is used and it is the UDP line's contract that is extended, not the TDP line's. The TDP line's contract end date and upgrade date do not change when you do the 4ever Method.

You can do the 4ever Method if you have a line situation like this (you can have additional lines too):

L1: UDP 3G or 4G LTE phone Yes
L2: TDP 3G or 4G LTE phone No


1) Log onto Verizon or Best Buy and transfer your UDP line's upgrade to a TDP line that is not currently eligible for its own upgrade;
2) Order the new smartphone you want on the TDP line selecting the TDP line's same data plan if required to select a data plan;
3) When the new smartphone arrives, activate it on the TDP line according to the directions that came with the phone using the SIM card that ships with the phone;
4) Wait at least an hour and make a few calls/text from the new smartphone to make sure it activated OK;
5) If the new smartphone and the TDP line's old phone have the same size SIM card, swap SIMs to put the TDP line's old phone back on the TDP line; if not, log onto Verizon to put the TDP line's old smartphone back on the TDP line; and
6) Depending on SIM card size, log onto Verizon and put the new smartphone on the UDP line or swap SIMs with the UDP line's old phone to put the new smartphone on the UDP line.

The 4ever Method works in-store anywhere upgrades can be transferred also, but it is NOT RECOMMENDED to do this in-store at a Verizon corporate store as Verizon reps can manually switch you off of UDP if they make a mistake or if they are just mean and feel like doing it to you. 4ever Method works in-store at Best Buy, Costco and Staples but the reps may tell you that you will lose your UDP but you won't if the rep does it properly. There are likely other stores that can do upgrade transfers, however Apple stores cannot do upgrade transfers.

If you do the 4ever Method in-store anywhere, be sure the rep understands you want to do an UPGRADE TRANSFER. Make sure they do NOT upgrade on the UDP line. Some reps may think you want to upgrade on the UDP line and then switch phones, which is not what you want to do and which will cost you your UDP.

It is best not to discuss switching phones b/t lines with an in-store rep. You do the phone switching yourself when you get home. Make sure the in-store rep fully understands that you want your UDP line's UPGRADE TRANSFERRED to the TDP line and that the purchase/activation of the new smartphone is to be done on the TDP line.

Then when you get home, you switch your phones around between lines yourself. It is best not to ask an in-store rep to switch phones for you because you may confuse them and they may try to upgrade on the UDP line.

4ever Method In-store

1) Go to a 3rd party retailer store where they can do upgrade transfers;
2) Have the rep transfer your UDP line's upgrade to a TDP line that is not currently eligible for its own upgrade - do not mention switching phones around between lines to the rep;
3) Have the rep purchase and activate the new smartphone on the TDP line;
4) Pay and leave the store;
5) When you get home from the store, wait at least an hour and make a few calls/text from the new smartphone to make sure it activated OK on the TDP line;
6) Log onto Verizon and put the TDP line's old phone back on the TDP line; and
7) Log onto Verizon and put the new smartphone on the UDP line.


UPDATE - Scyzek Method is unnecessary. 4ever was able to go in-store and transfer a UDP line upgrade to a TDP line, upgrade AND activate on the TDP line using the SIM card the phone comes with and did not lose UDP. Then 4ever did a device swap to get the new phone on the UDP line. Doing this prevents a pending activation from being stuck on the TDP line.
Scyzek Method
1) Have a 4G LTE phone active on your UDP line before you order;
2) Through Verizon online, transfer your UDP line's upgrade to a TDP line on your family plan that is not currently eligible for its own upgrade;
3) Order a new smartphone on the TDP line and have it shipped to home not shipped to store;
4) When the new smartphone arrives, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
5) Place the 4G LTE SIM card that is currently active on your UDP line into the new smartphone and turn it on.


Snkydvl Method:

You can do Snkydvl Method if you have a line situation like this (you can have additional lines, too):

L1: UDP 4G LTE phone Yes
L2: Basic phone No


1) Have a 4G LTE phone active on your UDP line before you order;
2) Log onto Verizon and transfer your UDP line's upgrade to a basic line;
3) Order the new smartphone you want on the basic line and select a 2GB plan;
4) When the new smartphone arrives, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
5) Place the 4G LTE SIM card that is currently active on your UDP line into the new smartphone and turn it on.

Snkydvl method will not result in the basic line being stuck with a 2 year data plan commitment on it because you never activate a smartphone on the basic line and do not complete the pending equipment order on the basic line.



Flying Arrow Method

UPDATE - Instructions for how to do FAM if you have a 3G phone on your lines complete with screen shots can be found in this post:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=73210112&postcount=15900


UPDATE - If the new phone has the same size SIM card as the current phone on the line you are activating the new phone on, you will have to do Aohus Method as the Verizon system will force you to use the current phone's SIM card to activate the new phone.

Flying Arrow Method [androidcentral.com]
(for accounts with at least 2 UDP lines). However, you can do 1/2 the Flying Arrow Method.

You can do FAM if you have a line situation like this (you can have additional lines, too) and the SIM card sizes of the new smartphones you are ordering are different from the size of the SIM cards in the 4G LTE phones that are already active on the lines:

L1: UDP 3G or 4G LTE phone Yes
L2: UDP 3G or 4G LTE phone Yes


1) Through Verizon online, order the new smartphone UDP Line 2 wants using UDP Line 1's upgrade on UDP Line 1, picking the 2GB data plan for UDP Line 1 and have it shipped to home not shipped to store;
2) After the first order is submitted, through Verizon online, order the new smartphone UDP Line 1 wants using UDP Line 2's upgrade on UDP Line 2, picking the 2GB data plan for UDP Line 2 and have it shipped to home not shipped to store;
3) When the new smartphones arrive, do not turn them on, rather log onto Verizon online and click activate or switch a device;
4) Select Line 2 - it should ask you if you want to activate or verify the new device that was just shipped to you - you click "No, I want to activate a different device" or "Not activating my new device at this time, take me to the Activate or Switch Device page";*
5) Select that you want to activate a device that has not been on your account before, type in the IMEI of the phone ordered for Line 2 (using Line 1's upgrade in Step 1) and the SIM card number of the SIM card that shipped with the phone and follow the directions to activate Line 2's new phone on Line 2;
6) Then click activate or switch a device, select Line 1 - it should ask you if you want to activate or verify the new device that was just shipped to you - you click "No, I want to activate a different device" or "Not activating my new device at this time, take me to the Activate or Switch Device page";*
7) Select that you want to activate a device that has not been on your account before, type in the IMEI of the phone ordered for Line 1 (using Line 2's upgrade in Step 2) and the SIM card number of the SIM card that shipped with the phone and follow the directions to activate Line 1's new phone on Line 1.

* Here is a screenshot: http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2950410&d=1413333262

You would not click "Next" rather you would click the blue link in the sentence "Not activating my new device at this time, take me to the Activate or Switch Device page."

In the past people got a screen where they would choose, "No, I am activating a different device" rather than choosing to activate the new device that had just shipped.

If both lines will have the same new phone, it is absolutely crucial that you keep the phones straight and do not activate them on the lines they were ordered on.

Here are the rest of FlyingArrow's posts about the FAM [androidcentral.com].

Here [androidcentral.com]is another post on AC about the FAM.


1/2 of Flying Arrow Method

You can do 1/2 of FAM if you have a line situation like this (you can have additional lines, too) and the SIM card size of the new smartphone you are ordering for L2 is different from the SIM card size of the 4G LTE phone that is active on L2 or if you have a 3G phone on L2:

L1: UDP or basic 3G/4G LTE/basic phone Yes
L2: UDP 3G/4G LTE phone Yes/No


1) Through Verizon online, order the new smartphone UDP L2 wants using L1's upgrade on L1, picking the 2GB data plan for L1 and have it shipped to home not shipped to store;
2) When the new smartphone arrives, do not turn it on or plug it in, rather log onto Verizon online and click activate or switch a device;
3) Select UDP L2 - it should ask you if you want to activate or verify the new device that was just shipped to you - you click "No, I want to activate a different device" or "Not activating my new device at this time, take me to the Activate or Switch Device page";* and
4) Select that you want to activate a device that has not been on your account before, type in the IMEI of the new phone ordered for L2 (using L1's upgrade in Step 1) and the SIM card number of the SIM card that shipped with the new phone and follow the directions to activate the new phone on L2.

* Here is a screenshot: http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2950410&d=1413333262

You would not click "Next" rather you would click the blue link in the sentence "Not activating my new device at this time, take me to the Activate or Switch Device page."

In the past people got a screen where they would choose, "No, I am activating a different device" rather than choosing to activate the new device that had just shipped.


Best Buy Method

You can do the BB Method if you have a line situation like this (you can have additional lines, too):

L1: UDP 4G LTE phone Yes


1) Have a 4G LTE phone active on your UDP line before you order;
2) Through a 3rd party retailer online,* order a new smartphone using your UDP line's upgrade and have it shipped to home not shipped to store;
3) When the new smartphone arrives, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
4) Place the 4G LTE SIM card that is currently active on your UDP line into the new smartphone and turn it on.

* if you get an email or phone call after you order from Best Buy saying they could not process your order and they need for you to call them, do not call them - cancel the order. They will try to involve Verizon and the Verizon rep will manually kick you off of your UDP. If you get such an email or phone call, after you cancel the order check to make sure your Verizon balance is paid off in full, that your shipping and billing address match and that you used the proper account passcode. If all of those things are true, you may have been randomly selected for them to manually process your order. If so, you will be kicked off of UDP if you call them and give them your Verizon info. You can try replacing the order and seeing what happens, but if you repeatedly get the email/call, then I believe you have been selected for a manual order. Idk if this is a BB quality assurance thing or a Verizon thing, but I suspect it is a BB QA thing because it only happens with BB not any of the other 3rd party retailers [UPDATE - AMAZON HAS STARTED DOING THIS, TOO!]. If it repeatedly happens to you at BB, your option is to choose another 3rd party retailer to order from or to use the Switzma Method. You also can use the 4ever Method if you have a TDP line.

DO NOT ORDER FROM COSTCO OR MOTOROLA IF YOU ARE DOING THE BEST BUY OR UDVZWIP4 METHODS AS 3 PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR UDP BEFORE THE PHONE EVEN SHIPPED!!!! COSTCO IS RANDOMLY CHECKING THESE ORDERS AND MANUALLY SWITCHING PEOPLE OFF OF UDP!!!! MOTOROLA IS DOING THIS TOO!!!!

Many people upgrading through apple.com using the Best Buy Method are getting this error message when they go to activate or switch a device on their line after upgrading through apple.com:

"Your request cannot be completed. We cannot process your request at this time, please try again later."

This error results in you not being able to activate or switch a device on your line yourself and having to involve Verizon. However, people are reporting that it falls off of your line eventually.



UDVZWIP4 Method

THE UDVZWIP4 METHOD WILL NOT WORK IF YOU UPGRADE THROUGH APPLE.COM!

ALSO PEOPLE WHO HAVE 3G PHONES ARE REPORTING THAT THEY ARE BEING FORCED TO PICK A NEW DATA PLAN IF THEY TRY TO USE THE UDVZWIP4 METHOD. SO IF YOU HAVE A 3G PHONE, THIS METHOD WILL NOT WORK FOR YOU.


UPDATE - 9 posters who had a GNex, S3, Thunderbolt, Note3, Droid DNA, HTC Rezound or a Droid Bionic on their lines and attempted the UDVZWIP4 or other methods in the wiki received the pick a new data plan message despite the GNex, S3, Thunderbolt, DNA, Rezound and Bionic being 4G LTE phones. If this happens to you when you are attempting the UDVZWIP4 method and you have a 4G LTE phone on the line, the solution is to cut down the already active SIM card (or use an adapter depending on the SIM card sizes) and use the already active SIM card to activate the phone. In all likelihood, the S3 and any 4G LTE phone that was released prior to the S3 are going to cause this problem. There may be some phones released after the S3 that cause this problem too, so please report back if you run into this problem so that the list can be edited to reflect that.

UPDATE - 1 poster who attempted UDVZWIP4 with a 3G phone on the line was able to finally get the new 4G LTE smartphone active on the 3G line by first activating it using another line's already active SIM card, then using the new SIM card ordered from Verizon to put the other line's 4G LTE phone on the 3G line and then doing a SIM swap. The steps are outlined below in the Kballa Method.


Both UDVZWIP4and another poster confirmed it worked.

You can do UDVZWIP4 Method if you have a line situation like this (you can have additional lines, too) and if the SIM card size of the phone you are ordering is different from the SIM card size of the 4G LTE phone that is already active on UDP L1:

L1: UDP 4G LTE phone Yes


It is explained here and these are the step-by-step instructions:

1) Have a 4G LTE phone active on your UDP line before you order;
2) Order a new SIM card that is the correct size for the new phone you will be ordering by calling Verizon and having one shipped to you;
3) Order the new phone using a UDP line's upgrade on a UDP line from a 3rd party retailer ship to home;
4) When the new phone arrives, do not turn it on or plug it in, remove the SIM card that ships with the phone and destroy it;
5) Log onto Verizon online and click activate or switch a device;
6) If you are asked do you want to activate or verify the phone that just shipped to you, click on "No, I want to activate a different device" or "Not activating my new device at this time, take me to the Activate or Switch Device page" (you may or may not be asked this);
7) Click you want to activate a device that has not been on your account b/f;
8) Type in the IMEI of the device and SIM card number of the SIM card you ordered in Step 1; and
9) Continue to follow the instructions.


Kballa Method

L1: UDP 3G phone Yes
L2: UDP 4G LTE phone having the same size SIM card as the new smartphone that will be ordered* Yes or No


1) Order a new SIM card from Verizon that is the correct size for the new smartphone that you will be ordering on L1 or buy one from a VAR;
2) Upgrade L1 through a 3rd party retailer online selecting the 2GB data plan for L1 and ship to home - if you are ordering through Best Buy, you can keep existing plan;
3) When the new smartphone arrives, without turning it on or plugging it in, remove the SIM card it ships with and destroy it;
4) Power down L2's current phone, remove its SIM card and place L2's already active SIM card in the new smartphone to activate it on L2 and make phone calls/text to ensure it is fully activated;
5) Log onto Verizon online and click activate or switch devices, select L1, select activating a phone that has been on the account before, select L2's old smartphone from the drop down menu and type in the SIM card number of the new SIM card you ordered from Verizon to activate L2's old smartphone on L1; and
6) After at least an hour of having the phones active on the lines, power down the phones and swap SIM cards b/t the new smartphone and L2's old smartphone to get them on L1 and L2 respectively.

* for simplicity's sake in writing out the method, it was limited to smartphones with the same size SIM card. It would be very complicated to do if the SIM cards weren't the same size and/or 1 phone used a non-NFC SIM and other used an NFC SIM.



Switzma Method

You can do Switzma Method if you have a line situation like this (you can have additional lines, too):

L1: UDP 4G LTE phone Yes
L2: UDP/basic 3G, 4G LTE phone or basic phone No

Switzma Method is particularly useful if you get the "problem with your order" email from Best Buy when you attempt the BB Method on L1.

Switzma method will not result in the basic line being stuck with a 2 year data plan commitment on it because you keep existing plan on the basic line, remove the SIM card that ships with the phone and you never activate a smartphone on the basic line.


1) Have a 4G LTE phone active on your UDP Line 1 before you order;
2) Log onto Best Buy and transfer your UDP Line 1's upgrade to another UDP/basic Line 2;
3) Order the new smartphone you want for Line 1 on Line 2 selecting Keep Existing Plan;
4) When the new smartphone arrives, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
5) Place the 4G LTE SIM card that is currently active on your UDP Line 1 into the new smartphone and turn it on.


MichaelJ Method

L1: 4G LTE UDP Yes or No
L2: 3G/4G LTE/basic UDP/basic Yes

1) Have a 4G LTE phone active on UDP Line 1;
2) Order a new SIM card from Verizon for the phone that you want to put on Line 1;
3) When the new SIM card arrives, through a 3rd Party Retailer online, order the new smartphone Line 1 wants using UDP/basic Line 2's upgrade on Line 2, picking the 2GB data plan for Line 2 and have it shipped to home not shipped to store - if ordering through Best Buy you can select keep existing plan rather than the 2GB data plan;
4) When the new smartphone arrives, do not turn it on or plug it in, remove the SIM card it shipped with and destroy it;
5) log onto Verizon online and click Activate or Switch a device; and
6) Select Line 1, "I am activating a device that I have not used with this account", type in the IMEI of the new phone ordered for Line 1 (using Line 2's upgrade in Step 3) and the SIM card number of the SIM card that you ordered from Verizon and follow the directions to activate the new phone on Line 1.


Aohus Method (variation of the Flying Arrow Method)
(for accounts with at least 2 UDP lines)

You can do Aohus if you have a line situation like this (you can have additional lines, too) and the SIM card sizes of the 4G LTE phone on L1 and the new smartphone you are ordering are the same size:

L1: UDP 4G LTE phone Yes or No
L2: UDP 3G or 4G LTE phone Yes


1) Have a 4G LTE phone active on UDP Line 1 before you order;
2) Through Verizon online, order the new smartphone UDP Line 1 wants using UDP Line 2's upgrade on UDP Line 2, picking the 2GB data plan for UDP Line 2 and have it shipped to home not shipped to store;
3) When the new smartphone arrives, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
4) Place the 4G LTE SIM card that is currently active on UDP Line 1 into the new smartphone and turn it on.

The result is that UDP Line 2's contract will be extended by 2 years and both lines will keep UDP.


Jaycemiskel Method

1) Have a 4G LTE phone active on your UDP line before you order;
2) Through a 3rd party retailer or Verizon online, order a new smartphone using a basic phone line's upgrade and have it shipped to home not shipped to store;
3) When the new smartphone arrives, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
4) Place the 4G LTE SIM card that is currently active on your UDP line into the new smartphone and turn it on.

Jaycemiskel does not result in the basic line being stuck with a minimum $30/mo 2 year data plan commitment.
UPDATE: One poster reported activating a different basic device on the line 2 months after successively doing jaycemiskel thru apple.com and when they dialed *228 to complete the activation, a 2GB data plan appeared on the basic line that had not been there before and could not be removed. So it looks like you cannot activate a different device on the basic line after doing Jaycemiskel thru a 3rd party retailer w/o getting stuck with the 2 year data plan commitment.

DO NOT DO JAYCEMISKEL THROUGH AMAZON BECAUSE YOU WILL TRIGGER THE SECONDARY ETF


Krnsamiam Method

1) Through Verizon online, order the new smartphone the UDP Line wants using a basic line's upgrade on the basic line, picking the 2GB data plan for the basic line and have it shipped to home not shipped to store;
2) When the new smartphone arrives, do not turn it on, rather log onto Verizon online and click activate or switch a device; and
3) Select the UDP Line and that you want to activate a device that has not been on your account before, type in the IMEI of the new smartphone and the SIM card number of the SIM card that shipped with the new smartphone and follow the directions to activate the new smartphone on the UDP line.

Krnsamiam does not result in the basic line being stuck with a minimum $30/mo 2 year data plan commitment.

If the new smartphone you are getting has the same size SIM card as the phone that is currently on the UDP line, then the Verizon system will tell you to put your current SIM card into the new smartphone, thus resulting in you doing Jaycemiskel rather than Krnsamiam.

IMPORTANT: If when you click activate or switch devices you are asked if want to activate or verify the new phone that was just shipped to you - do not do that or you will be stuck with a minimum $30/mo 2 year data plan on the basic line. This will appear on the basic line and it is called a pending equipment order. You can see a screen shot of what it looks like in the instructions for the FAM.


Neomits Method doesn't work after 11/14/14 see the memo below except for business accounts if you can order through Verizon - UPDATE: even if you can do the transfer online through Best Buy, Verizon blocks the upgrade on their end
http://slickdeals.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3032790&d=1416078064
Neomits Method

1) Have a 4G LTE phone active on a TDP line before you order;
2) Through Verizon online, transfer a basic phone line's upgrade to a TDP line that is not currently eligible for its own upgrade;
3) Order a new smartphone on the TDP line and have it shipped to home not shipped to store;
4) When the new smartphone arrives, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
5) Place the 4G LTE SIM card that is currently active on your TDP line into the new smartphone and turn it on.

Frenzytom Method

1) Through Verizon online transfer UDP Line 1's upgrade to a basic line;
2) Pick the 2GB data plan for the basic line and order a new smartphone on the basic line ship to home;
3) When you receive the new smartphone, remove the SIM card it ships with without turning it on or plugging it in; and
4) Activate the new smartphone on UDP Line 2.

I believe Step 4 could be accomplished either with a new SIM card or with the SIM card that is currently active on Line 2.

Now that I am thinking about this, it is not Switzma through Verizon but rather Flying Arrow with an upgrade transfer. Even though FAM and Aohus work, many people are nervous about picking a new data plan on a UDP line. Frenzytom Method avoids that as you pick the new data plan on the basic line.

And as long as you never activate the smartphone on the basic line, you don't get stuck with the 2 year data plan on the basic line.


FAQs

1) The 4G LTE SIM card in the smartphone I want to order with my upgrade is a nano SIM card but my current 4G LTE SIM card is a micro SIM card. Can I use these methods?

Yes. You can buy a SIM card cutter off of ebay/amazon and use it to cut down your micro SIM card to nano SIM card size and then use the cut down SIM card to activate your new phone.

You can cut your SIM card down free hand also. You may have to sand it down to be thinner, too. There are templates and YouTube tutorials on how to do this free hand, but the SIM card cutters are not expensive.

In addition, the safest approach when you are cutting down a SIM card is to buy a nano to micro SIM card adapter and when it arrives, cut down your micro SIM card BEFORE you order your new phone. Then place the cut down SIM card in the nano to micro SIM card adapter and back into your phone to test that you did not mess up the SIM card by cutting it down.

If you did mess up your SIM card by cutting it down, you can get a new one by taking your device into a Verizon store and they will activate a new one in your device. You will have to figure out an explanation as to why you lost your SIM card. Or you can take your device into a VAR and buy a SIM card from them - they likely won't care why you lost your SIM card.

You cannot obtain a new nano SIM from Verizon and activate it in an adapter in a phone that uses a micro SIM card because the reps will get an incompatible SIM card error that will prevent them from activating the nano SIM.


2) If I cut down my SIM card, can I mess it up so it won't work?

Any time you handle a SIM card you can mess it up.


3) If I cut down my SIM card, will it affect the secure elements for NFC transactions?

Well first off, if your SIM card is one of the older ones it won't have those to begin with. If you do have a newer SIM card with the secure elements, you can mess it up cutting/sanding it down if you do it wrong.


4) My current phone has a nano SIM card but the phone I want to order with my UDP upgrade has a micro SIM card. Can I use these methods?

One option you have is to buy a nano to micro SIM card adapter off of ebay/amazon and place your nano SIM card in it and use that to activate your new smartphone.


5) My current phone's SIM card is one of the older ones that doesn't have the secure elements for NFC transactions. Can I use these methods?

If you don't have a need to use ISIS Wallet or Apple Pay, you don't need to do anything. If you want to use those, after you activate your new smartphone you can obtain a new SIM card by following the directions here [gosoftcard.com]or here [verizonwireless.com].


6) My current phone is a 3G phone and no one else on my family plan has a 4G LTE phone I can switch with. Can I use these methods?

None of these methods will work unless you have a Verizon 4G LTE phone active on your account before you order. The reason is because you need an active Verizon 4G LTE SIM card to activate the new smartphone. To activate a Verizon 4G LTE SIM card you need a Verizon 4G LTE phone. The Verizon 4G LTE phone must be active on your account before you order your new smartphone because you could be stuck with a pending activation on your line after you order the new phone. If you are stuck with a pending activation on your line, you will be prevented from activating a new SIM card on your line and from switching phones on your line. Moreover, the 4G LTE phone must remain active on your account until the new smartphone arrives because once you take a 4G LTE phone off of your line by putting another phone on the line, the SIM card in the 4G LTE phone deactivates.

If neither you nor any one on your family plan has a 4G LTE phone, you are going to have to either buy or borrow a Verizon 4G LTE phone. The Verizon 4G LTE phone must:

a) work (a cracked screen is OK, but the phone must work);
b) have a clean ESN (i.e., not be stolen or otherwise blacklisted for not paying the bill); and
c) not currently be active on another Verizon subscriber's line.

With regard to "c" above, the phone cannot currently be active on another Verizon subscriber's line because a phone cannot be on 2 lines at once, a SIM card cannot be active on 2 lines at once and every line must have a phone on it.*

* In the past Verizon would put a dummy ESN on a line for customers who didn't have a phone for a line but they aren't doing than anymore and I can't find any online dummy ESN codes that work any longer. Never put a dummy ESN or a basic phone on a UDP line as that will drop the UDP and you will NOT be able to get it back.


7) I got ahold of a working Verizon 4G LTE phone that has a clean ESN and is not on another Verizon subscriber's line and it has a SIM card in it. How do I put it on my line?

Turn off your existing 3G phone, log onto your Verizon account online and reprogram the 4G LTE SIM card for your line. After logging on you:

1) click activate or switch a device;
2) select your line;
3) select that you are activating a device that has not been on your account before;
4) type in the IMEI of the device;
5) select that you have a SIM card for the device;
6) type in the SIM card number; and
7) continue to follow the instructions.

If the device has been on your account before, you can just select it from a drop down menu rather than typing in the IMEI of the device.

If you can't figure out how to do this, either call Verizon or take the phone into a Verizon corporate store and have them do it for you.


8) I got ahold of a working Verizon 4G LTE phone that has a clean ESN and is not on another Verizon subscriber's line but it doesn't have a SIM card in it. How do I put it on my line?

You will need to obtain a 4G LTE SIM card from Verizon for the phone. You can either call Verizon and have one mailed to you or take the phone into a Verizon corporate store and have them put a SIM card in it and put it on your line for you.

If you get the SIM card mailed to you, turn off your existing 3G phone, log onto your Verizon account online and program the 4G LTE SIM card for your line. After logging on you:

1) click activate or switch a device;
2) select your line;
3) select that you are activating a device that has not been on your account before;
4) type in the IMEI of the device;
5) select that you have a SIM card for the device;
6) type in the SIM card number; and
7) continue to follow the instructions.

If the device has been on your account before, you can just select it from a drop down menu rather than typing in the IMEI of the device.


9) My current phone is an iPhone 4s but it has a SIM card in it. Can I use that SIM card in these methods?

The iPhone 4 series are 3G phones and the SIM cards in the iPhone 4 series phones are not 4G LTE SIM cards. They are GSM SIM cards for use in international roaming on overseas GSM networks. These GSM SIM cards will not work in these methods.

The only iPhones that are Verizon 4G LTE devices and have Verizon 4G LTE SIM cards in them are the Verizon iPhone 5 and 6 series.


10) Why does the Best Buy Method work?

I am not a Verizon insider so I can only guess based on what I have observed and read. As best I can tell, the reason this works is because you are bypassing a switch order by using a previously activated SIM card. I believe the switch order contains the order to switch your data plan. Completion of the switch order is tied to the activation of the SIM card the phone ships with. If the SIM card the phone ships with never gets activated, the switch order never completes and your data plan stays the same. That is also why it is safest to destroy the SIM card the phone ships with so that it is never activated.


11) I keep getting an email from Best Buy when I place an online order through them saying there was a problem with my order and they need me to call them. Why is this happening to me?

If you have paid off your Verizon bill, your billing and shipping addresses match, you haven't exceeded your credit limit on your credit card and you have used the proper billing passcode for your Verizon account, then you may have been randomly selected for a manual order. However, if you go through with that you will be switched off of UDP as a Verizon representative will be involved. Your best option is to cancel the order and try another 3rd party retailer or the Scyzek Method if you have a TDP line.


12) Why does the Scyzek Method work?

I am not a Verizon insider so I can only guess based on what I have observed and read. On 8/25/14 Verizon claimed they made changes to their system that would put a minimum $30/mo 2 year TDP requirement on a line if you used the line's upgrade to buy a subsidized smartphone. Their memo only showed the example of using a line's own upgrade; it did not show an example of what would happen if an upgrade transfer was done.

Subsequently people have reported that Verizon employees, notably supervisors and tier 2 tech support, have stated that under the new system if you transfer a UDP line's upgrade to another line and use it your UDP line's contract will be extended 2 years (which has always been the case) and you will also lose UDP because the UDP line would be subject to the minimum $30/mo TDP for 2 years. Since UDP is not a TDP nor is it a minimum of $30/mo (it is only $29.99/mo) they say you will be kicked off of UDP if you transfer your UDP line's upgrade and use it on another line.

With the Scyzek Method you transfer the UDP upgrade to a TDP line not currently eligible for its own upgrade, upgrade on the TDP line, remove the SIM the subsidized smartphone ships with and use the UDP line's SIM card to activate the new smartphone. Scyzek kept his UDP and did not see anything on his account to indicate that either his UDP or TDP lines now were subject to 2 year TDP requirements. I can only speculate that the order to add a 2 year minimum $30/mo TDP requirement to a line is somehow tied to the SIM card that the phone ships with (which is why it is safest to destroy the SIM card the phone ships with). I do not know which line would be subject to this requirement nor do I know if in fact Verizon made the changes to their system that they claim they made.


13) Why can't I transfer an upgrade to a line that is currently eligible for its own upgrade?

Because that is how Verizon has configured their system to work.


14) Can I transfer my UDP line's upgrade to a basic phone line and use the Scyzek Method?

The Scyzek Method involves the transfer of a UDP line's upgrade to a TDP line. So if you transferred your UDP line's upgrade to a basic phone line, you would be inventing your own method as no one has tried it yet. I would be very leary of upgrading to a smartphone on and adding a data plan to a basic phone line directly through Verizon because I would not want to be stuck with a 2 year data plan commitment on my basic phone line.


15) Can I use the Scyzek Method to order through a 3rd party retailer?

I guess you could but first the 3rd party retailer would have to offer online upgrade transfers. Best Buy does but idk if any others do. Second, I am not sure what benefit there would be to doing an upgrade transfer when you order through a 3rd party retailer since you could just upgrade directly on the UDP line.


16) Why does the Jaycemiskel Method work?

I am not a Verizon insider so I can only guess based on what I have observed and read. I think it works for the same reason the Scyzek Method works - the order to add a 2 year minimum $30/mo TDP requirement to a line is somehow tied to the SIM card that the phone ships with (which is why it is safest to destroy the SIM card the phone ships with).
UPDATE: One poster reported activating a different basic device on the line 2 months after successively doing jaycemiskel thru apple.com and when they dialed *228 to complete the activation, a 2GB data plan appeared on the basic line that had not been there before and could not be removed. So it looks like you cannot activate a different device on the basic line after doing Jaycemiskel thru a 3rd party retailer w/o getting stuck with the 2 year data plan commitment.


17) Can I use the Jaycemiskel Method to order through Verizon?

Yes.


18) Will I get charged the upgrade fee if I use the Best Buy Method or the Jaycemiskel Method?

AFAIK no one has been charged the upgrade fee when they use the Best Buy Method and I suspect the same is true of the Jaycemiskel Method.




Quote from Ben61694 :
Since a lot of people are asking the same exact questions....

(Note, I am not responsible for any problems you may have or in the event your phone spontaneously combusts or something).

Q: How do I take advantage of this exploit without screwing up?
A: Follow these instructions to the letter.
If your order has a $50 gift card, add it to your cart FIRST.
1. Order a phone from Best Buy (select keep existing plan/make sure nothing of your current plan changes)
1a. If it is a secondary line, transfer your secondary line's upgrade to your primary line, THEN order from your primary (this is done to help avoid the "there's a problem with your order email").
2. Ensure that it is shipped to your HOUSE. You will have to sign for it 99% of the time.
3. Take the sim card out of the phone (DO NOT POWER IT ON). Throw it out.
4. Take your old sim card and put it in, and power it on. That's it.
4a. If your sim card is too big, cut it down (Google guides, buy a cutter) or order a new one following the instructions at the bottom of this FAQ.

If you have any problems read the FAQ below:

FAQ:
Q: Will I have to pay the $30 upgrade fee?
A; Not if you do the Best Buy Method because the fee is only charged if you activate the sim card that comes with the new phone from Best Buy which you are NOT doing (throw it out). Other methods, such as the 4ever Method, will result in the $30 upgrade fee being charged.

Q: I can't pass account verification, what do I do?
A: Pay off any unpaid balance on your account INCLUDING the bill for the month.

Q: I have the "problem with your order" email. What do I do?
A: Try the Switzma Method.

Q: Will I lose UDP by upgrading my phones this way?
A: It's a risk that you're willing to take, but this exploit has existed for a few years now as users have stated they've done this a long time ago.

Q: What do I do with the phones once I get them?
A: Put in your old sim card, or any one of your secondary line's sim cards, it does not matter. DON'T use the one that came pre-installed in the phone. You WILL lose UDP if you activate that sim card.

Q: I'm getting a "Welcome to Verizon Wireless. Your call cannnot be completed as dialed. Please check the number and dial again. Message 4, Switch ####)
A: This can be fixed! Log in to MyVerizon, click "Manage my account," and then "Change Features." Find the "Advanced Calling 1.0" "HD Voice" feature, and remove it from your account. Wait a few minutes, and make a test call. You can then re-add the feature to your account.
[Info related to Iphone 6 add a line with UDP via apple.com] as of 9/16/2014
-You can only do one UDP per acct
-You are going to get it after Oct 1st
*

*Meaning that you will not have your contract date starting before the cutoff for the new throttling. Basically they throttle people who are off contract. As long as they don't change the terms in a written letter in the Oct. bill you are ok, if they do remove the "current contract" clause, you got the screw and they can throttle u! However, I am pretty sure you would be able to escape the contract because it would have a material impact on you.

[THROTTLING]
luciphear: I think as long as your UDP is under contract they won't throttle you. The 10/1 date is the start of network optimization. If you are on contract after that date then big red probably won't throttle you. The conditions are clear: http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07...mited-lte/

Tecjunkie 10/20/2014
I checked the September and October bills, and there was no updated verbage about throttling, so the Aug. version is still current to this date. Quoted below:
Important Information Regarding Data Usage
Verizon Wireless strives to provide its customers with the best wireless experience when using our network. In 2011, Verizon Wireless launched Network Optimization, which slows the data speeds of its unlimited data subscribers with 3G devices who are in the top 5% of data users when they connect to a cell site experiencing high demand. Effective October 1, Verizon Wireless will expand its existing Network Optimization policy to include its unlimited data subscribers using 4G LTE devices who have fulfilled their minimum contract term. Based on your plan and recent data usage, one or more lines on your account may experience a reduction in data speeds when connected to a cell site experiencing high demand. Customers on MORE Everything or other usage-based data plans are not subject to Network Optimization. For more information about our Network Optimization, please see http://www.verizonwireless.com/ne...timization.


Cell phones and the SIM card they use - (Mini, Micro or Nano)

Micro SIM
Nexus 4
Nexus 5
Droid 4
HTC One M7
LG G2
LG G3
Motorola Droid Razr / Razr Maxx
Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Samsung Galaxy S3
Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy S5
Samsung Note 2
Samsung Note 3
BlackBerry Z30
BlackBerry Z10
BlackBerry Q10
iPhone 4 AT&T (Not sure about other models)

Nano SIM
HTC One M8
iPhone 5
iPhone 5S
iPhone 5C
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus
Motorola Droid Maxx
Moto X
Droid Turbo

Standard Mini SIM
Droid Bionic
HTC Thunderbolt
HTC Rezound

No SIM - So many phones
Droid X
Droid X2
Droid 2
Droid 1
Nexus One

Different Age - Different SIM
iPhone 4S (SIM is for international travel) (VZW iPhone 4 does NOT have a SIM slot)
Droid 2 Global (SIM is for international travel)

VERIZON INJECTS SUPER TRACKING COOKIES into your mobile web browsing sessions.
the only way to stop them from getting your browsing history (and selling it to companies w/ indetifiable information) is use HTTPS or VPN

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this is old news posted on the Droid forums year ago so give proper credit to that original OP
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Ripped just for the detailed post. Don't even have Verizon.
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the best part is where the OP goes "The trick is very simple." before unleashing a massive post
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Any options if I have an iPhone 4s which doesn't have a sim?
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Ripped just for the detailed post. Don't even have Verizon.
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Hmm. Interesting. I wasn't aware of this method (I don't have a Verizon unlimited line to test). Good to know. I will keep it handy for future reference with some friends and unlimited lines.

Post was very detailed and informative though, so reps for that.
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Nice detailed post. Hope this is still an option when the G3 comes out.
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this is old news posted on the Droid forums year ago so give proper credit to that original OP
If this is so well know why have I never heard of it?

Have had verizon for years & have read dozens of forums.

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Can anyone confirm that this in fact works?

And if verizon tries to screw you can you just return the phone and go back to unlimited data?
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the best part is where the OP goes "The trick is very simple." before unleashing a massive post
Heh, it started out simple but then I started adding all of the "ifs buts and whens".

Really it's just...
  • Buy the phone through Bestbuy.com
  • Once it arrives, remove any SIM card present
  • Take your old SIM card from your old phone and put it in your new phone
  • And that's it... your phone is activated.

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this is old news posted on the Droid forums year ago so give proper credit to that original OP
Link me to it and I will. I didn't mean to hide credit where it's deserved.
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Wow and I thought AT&T had issues. At least through multiple upgraded I've never lost my original unlimited data. Verizon sucks big time, eh? Of course things could change.
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Quote from DrThil View Post :
the best part is where the OP goes "The trick is very simple." before unleashing a massive post

I'll TL;DR it in 3 steps.


1.) Order from BB.com, choose "keep unlimited data" option at checkout. SHIP TO HOME ONLY; NO IN-STORE PICKUP
2.) When phone arrives, do NOT power on. Remove sim from new phone, and destroy it.
3.) Insert old sim from current phone, and it should activate automatically.


That does seem pretty simple. I wonder who's taking the hit? Verizon or BestBuy? It is interesting that this works and hasn't been closed after this long.
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Repped. Have always been a frequent reader of both SD and howard forums, never even knew I could keep my UL data and still be able to buy a phone through the contract deals. Good stufff, thanks.

However, still think I pay too much for a service I barely use compare to everything else that is out there.
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Is destroying the sim actually necessary?
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If you didn't join in on the $50 promo, you won't be able to join in again this year.
What does this mean - you won't be able to join in again this year? Is this a once a year promo? New phones will be out next year anyway.
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