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IN STORE ONLY [w/ EDU discount, YMMV]: Microsoft Store - Lenovo Y50 Ultra High Definition Haswell i7 Touchscreen Gaming Notebook - Nvidia 860M, 16Gb RAM, 256Gb SSD - $1259.10 + TAX

pupster 139 July 27, 2014 at 06:25 PM in Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV) (9)
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As part of the Back To School promotions going on at Microsoft Store, the site currently has the Ultra High Definition (UHD) Y50 TOUCH listed as starting at $1259.10 + TAX.


This is lower (pre-tax) than the New Egg version of this that DOES NOT HAVE A TOUCHSCREEN:

http://slickdeals.net/f/7082364-lenovo-y50-4k-59425943-gaming-notebook-intel-core-i7-4700hq-2-40ghz-16gb-memory-256gb-ssd-nvidia-geforce-gtx-860m-2gb-15-6-windows-8-1-64-bit-for-1279-99-fs-lowest-ever
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Here are the specs of this POWERHOUSE computer. Right now it's a Microsoft Store EXCLUSIVE, and it's not even sold on Lenovo's website:

Lenovo Y50-70 4K Touchscreen Laptop - Intel Core i7
15.6-inch Ultra HD touchscreen
Intel Core i7-4700HQ
16GB memory/256GB SSD (mine is a LiteON drive)
Up to 5 hours battery life

SPECIFICS:
Display: 15.6 in Ultra HD LED (3840 x 2160), 10-finger multi-touch support
Processor: Intel Core i7-4700HQ 2.40 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up to 3.40 GHz
Memory: 16GB DDR3L 1600 MHz
Hard drive size: 256GB SSD
Operating system: Windows 8.1, 64-bit
PC type: Laptop
Optical drive: None
Media drive: 4-in-1 card reader (SD/MMC/SDXC/SDHC)
Audio: JBL speakers with Dolby Advanced Audio v2
Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M with 2GB graphics memory, Intel HD Graphics 4600
Ports: 2 USB 3.0 • 1 USB 2.0 • HDMI • S/PDIF • Headphone output/Microphone input combo • LAN (10/100/1000)
Battery: 4-cell lithium-ion (up to 5 hours)*
Camera: 720p HD webcam
Wireless: 802.11ac/a/b/g/n (Miracast enabled)
Bluetooth: Yes
Dimensions: 15.24 x 13.11 x 0.94 in (387.09 x 332.99 x 23.87 mm)
Weight: 5.54 lbs (2.51 kg)
Color: Black
Other: Model number: Y50-70 Touch • Keyboard travel: 1.3 mm • Touchpad dimensions: 107 x 72 mm • Backlit keyboard • Security lock slot

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Now that we've described the computer, let's revisit the $1259.10 + TAX price that I got the computer for.

Microsoft advertises this number on a webpage by using the Back To School $100 off offer and then applying the standard 10% off student/faculty/staff education discount.

So, the price is supposed to go from $1499.00 to $1399.00 (less the $100 advertised at the bottom of the product page) and then to $1259.10 (less the 10% of $1399.00).

UNFORTUNATELY, when you try to add the item to the cart online, the prices stays at $1349.00. Apparently the $100 discount isn't being applied.

I called MS Store via phone, and I was transferred to someone in India who said he couldn't override the price and said both discounts wouldn't stack. Called again yesterday morning and got an American who said he also couldn't stack the discounts. I pointed out that the website noted that the prices "started at $1259.10, reflecting 10% off the 'current price of $1399'" but he wouldn't budge. However, he did say that I could go into a local store and that the managers there had more flexibility to adjust prices if I brought printouts from the website.

INSTRUCTIONS:

To log into the education store, you go to www.microsoftstore.com and then click on [Shop Products] and then click on the [Education] link (see figure 1).

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Next, once you select your school/etc (you can just select something even if you don't have an ID, BUT the MS Store may ask to see your student/faculty/staff ID), you then type Y50 in the top right corner of the screen in the search box and then hit [ENTER] (see figure 2).

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The next page will show the Y50. Note that at the bottom, it will state that the price starts from $1259.10 with and "original price" of $1399.00. YOU WANT TO PRINT OUT THIS PAGE (or use the photo that I provided laugh out loud; see figure 3).

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Now, click on the Y50, and it will bring you to the next page which will now show a price of $1349.00 (instead of $1259.10 like the prior page advertised). HOWEVER, note that below this will be a banner stating that this PC is $100 off with the back to school special. Make sure you select the "PC only" instead of the "PC with Office" to get the $100 off. If you select the "PC with Office" you get charged for the price of Office but save $150.00 (see figure 4).

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PRINT THIS PAGE OUT ALSO. THIS SHOWS THAT THERE IS A $100.00 OFF OFFER ON THIS AS PART OF THE BACK TO SCHOOL SPECIALS (but that for some reason the site isn't processing both the $100 and the 10% discounts when you click to add to cart); here's where you go back to the previous page that you printed and show that they're advertising a price of $1259.10, discounted from $1399.00, implying that the $100 was supposed to be taken off the $1499.00 original price.

NOW, assuming you can easily explain the above and/or have good explanatory skills/persuasion skills, go to a local Microsoft Store and ask for the "advertised price." Actually, it wasn't too hard for me to get a price match to the website, since I said that MS was "ADVERTISING" on their website a price of $1259.10 and that there was just a website "error".

I also opted for the MS Complete 3 year accidental protection plan (Lenovo charges $215.10 + TAX for their on site in home protection plan (3YR In-Home + Accidental Damage Protection Plan - Part number: 78Y1541) if you order it using the IBM Shareholder Discount from Lenovo (www.lenovo.com/spp). I figured that "buying" a $300 plan (which I got a refund on today LMAO - you have 30 days for a full refund on the plan) would help "seal the deal."

So, below is my original receipt (with identifying info of course whited out/deleted).

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Hope this helps! Slick deal, since this is cheaper than the Y50 Ultra HD (without touch) which is currently starting at $1249.00 at Lenovo's SPP website. It only has a Hybrid 1TB 5400 RPM+8GB SSHD and 8 Gb of RAM.

http://shop.lenovo.com/ibmspp/us/...s/y50-uhd/

In contrast, the Y50 Touch (NOT UHD - it is FHD) starts at $1349.00 at Lenovo's SPP website starts at $1319.12 with the same hybrid drive and 8Gb of RAM.

http://shop.lenovo.com/ibmspp/us/...y50-touch/

Both have the crappier Intel 3160 wireless card and shipping time for the Y50 UHD is quoted at 3-4 wks while the shipping time for the Y50 Touch is 1-3 days.

BestBuy.com does have a better version of the Y50 Touch (FHD) in the sense that it has an included DVD burner and retails for $1149.00 on their website. The price can be discounted using the ubiquitous USPS Mover's coupon to $1034.10 before tax.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenov.../6443007.p

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All in all, this Y50 UHD Touch is not currently available anywhere else that I know of. It has maxed out RAM (16 Gigs) + the SSD. So, at this price point, I think it's very competitive. If you were to buy a non-UHD Y50 Touch, I'd go for the Best Buy model; however, for only effectively ~ $200 more, you get double the ram (the Best Buy model has 2x 4 Gb RAM sticks, so you'd have to buy 2x 8 Gb sticks and sell or give away the 2x 4 Gb RAM sticks), UHD, and a fast SSD drive.

Now, there are some issues w/ the Y50 UHD, including a software lock on the frequency of the screen (48 Hz) as well as some "tinting of the yellow" which can be "fixed somewhat" by adjusting the color profiles. The screen, however, is viewable from many angles, and many people on the Notebook Forum Y50 board agree that it's definitely better than the FHD screen, the above caveats aside. I'm not going to go into a detailed discussion of the pros and cons of each of the Y50 variants, as that's beyond the scope of this post. You can read more here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/i...thread.htm
http://forum.notebookreview.com/i...hread.html

There are NO Youtube reviews that I know of as of yet for the UHD Y50 Touch. However, you can view a review of the regular Y50 (non touch) here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obowjGknfHk

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EDIT:

The panel is a PLS Samsung panel. Yes, there is a green tint. However, this can be corrected by using the profile at the bottom of the first post at the following link:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/i...hread.html

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#61
Finally a decent laptop with desktop performance process. Getting tired with all this ULV processor that can't even runs more than 3 apps decently.
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Quote from Link2999 View Post :
Another thing that wasn't mentioned in the OP, using ShopDiscover on the Microsoft Store nets you 5% Cashback ($67.50). Unlike the OP, the Cashback is a sure thing and not YMMV. The difference in price isn't much between the two offers either and definitely requires less effort.

Every version of this laptop has it's own drawbacks. The screen on the non-4k displays is a horrible quality TN panel, so you'll have to replace it yourself (add on another $100). You can only replace the non-touch display screens I believe. Those screens aren't glass-to-glass, so you're going to have an ungly bezel around the screen (not the biggest deal though). Models direct from Lenovo use an older wireless card and different sellers have different trackpads.

It would be great if one model had the best everything, but unfortunately that is not the case.

Solid and informative reply, good sir. It sounds like I'll keep straddling this here fence for now.
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#63
I dont know why this would be considered a hot deal... especially for a gaming notebook. The UHD screen is all well and good until you try to use it with an OS that is terrible at scaling (current versions of Windows) and programs that are not optimized to scale (such as Chrome). Until Window 9 comes out and maybe actually addresses the scaling issues with ultra high resolutions, its kind of a crap shoot. And the GTX 860M will not be able to handle games at the resolution anyways. I have already tested such screens on custom gaming notebooks, might as well get a nice FHD screen instead to get native resolution that is scaled and can be gamed on with good FPS.

For that price you can definitely get better 15.6" gaming notebooks or at least better built ones for a similar price:

Note for the following: all have 1920x1080 screens, all are 15.6" notebooks

1.) $969 for MSI GE60 customizable
(Intel® i7-4700MQ, NVIDIA GTX 860M, 8GB DDR3-1600, 1TB HDD)
-or- $1276 for 16GB DDR3 and 250GB Samsung 840 Evo SSD

2.) $969 for Clevo W350SS (a.k.a. Sager NP7358) customizable
(Intel® i7-4710MQ, NVIDIA GTX 860M, 8GB DDR3-1600, 1TB HDD)
-or- $1176 for 16GB DDR3 and 250GB Samsung 840 Evo SSD

3.) $1099 for MSI GX60 customizable
(AMD® A10-5750M, AMD® R9 M290X, 8GB DDR3-1600, 1TB HDD)
-or- $1287 for 16GB DDR3 and 250GB Samsung 840 Evo SSD

4.) $1114 for Clevo P150SM (aka. Sager NP8268) customizable
(Intel® i7-4710MQ, NVIDIA GTX 860M*, 8GB DDR3-1600, 1TB HDD)
-or- $1323 for 16GB DDR3 and 250GB Samsung 840 Evo SSD

* Using removable MXM 3.0b standard video card module that is upgradeable to GTX 870M/880M or Quadro K1100M/K3100M or AMD R9 M290X, and any other MXM 3.0b standard graphics cards

There you have it, some quick and comparable options to this Lenovo that are all less in cost, but has more respect in the gaming notebook community.

If you were to spend $1100-1200, might as well get a gaming notebook that is a bit more future proof... meaning that it can actually swap out videocards so later in the future when the 860M is not fast enough, you don't have to get rid of the entire notebook, you can just swap it out for a faster card and sell off the old one.

Hope this helps. Smilie

P.S. I quoted these prices just now from highly reputable boutique brand OEMs (such as XoticPC, PowerNotebooks, etc.). Way more than that internationally, just go look it up.
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Quote from m32311 View Post :
How is the trackpad mouse and the keyboard? I bought a Y580 about a year ago and while I love most things about the laptop, there are some deal-breakers that make me hate it when using it as a laptop.

Often (and this is when I love it), I use it connected to a monitor, with an external keyboard and mouse - most everything is good in this use case..

Sometimes (since it's a laptop and all), I 'like' to use it on the go, without an external keyboard and mouse - during these times, I'd just assume drop it from a building downtown to see if it can fly better than it can act as a portable laptop PC (I am betting it does both about as well as the built in keyboard and mouse are quite literally the worst that I've ever used, making it a nightmare to use on the go).

Just curious if things have changed with the Y models, as I recommend anyone who will listen away from Lenovo notebooks as a result of my experience (and subsequent experienced with support)... Thanks...
Honestly, I hate trackpads in general. I have always used Thinkpads, ever since the first IBM 700C came out. I'm basically buying this for gaming on the go. I'm also buying an X1 Carbon for my business needs. That said, the Elan trackpad is very nice, especially compared to the crappy Synaptics one.
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Quote from pupster View Post :
Honestly, I hate trackpads in general. I have always used Thinkpads, ever since the first IBM 700C came out. I'm basically buying this for gaming on the go. I'm also buying an X1 Carbon for my business needs. That said, the Elan trackpad is very nice, especially compared to the crappy Synaptics one.
if youre just buying it for pure gaming, get the MSI that is $1100-1200 with the AMD R9 M290X.... nothing is going to match that at the price point.
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Quote from eyeoncomputers View Post :
if youre just buying it for pure gaming, get the MSI that is $1100-1200 with the AMD R9 M290X.... nothing is going to match that at the price point.
It's 17".....not for "gaming on the go"....if it were w/in my budget, i'd get a 13" aorus x3 once it's released....
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Quote from pupster View Post :
It's 17".....not for "gaming on the go"....if it were w/in my budget, i'd get a 13" aorus x3 once it's released....
MSI GX60 DESTROYER-280 (with the AMD R9 M290X) is a 15.6" notebook. I'm not sure where you got the info that it was a 17" which is the GX70

Customer reviews here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6834152563
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GX60-De...00IEB136M/
http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/m...7fd+150807 (might need to translate, but very informative reviews here)

In Depth Review here of the (same notebook chassis and design):
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Revi...283.0.html
- it is the previous gen A10-4600 with Radeon 7970... but you get the picture, the new refresh (A10-5750M w/ R9 M290X) uses the same parts other than the APU and GPU
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#68
I called my local Microsoft Store, and they said the actual price of the discounts combined was $1349.10, not $1259. Either your deal was never going to happen, or it has expired.

I was able to get the non-Touch version on NewEgg for $1199.99 pre-tax in a Shell Shocker deal on August 14, 2014. The price is now back to $1388.99.
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#69
when did the $100 back to school expired?
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Quote from Genius4sho View Post :
Who the heck spends $1200+ on a laptop. This thing would depreciate in value by a good $400 after a year.
You mean after leaving the store Smilie
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#71
I think this was a site error which they fixed now. As the student promo says "not combinable" with other promotion special. Great deal otherwise... if anyone else beside TP could have replicated which I doubt??
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