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10" Spindle Abscond All Natural Dunlop Latex Mattress: Full $1092, Queen $1282, King $1615 + free shipping & custom firmness/layers

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Update 2: they are out of all talalay. Only dunlop available and my review is based on dunlop My personal opinion that while there is a difference, it's probably not worth specifically looking for one or the other.


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I talked to Neal from Spindle today and he said that there are only 2 left in king talalay. Several in queen/full though. If you want king talalay, I would not wait Smilie
Please of natural dunlop though. I have been sleeping on one for 6 week and I love it. Check my attached review below.

*** They got a shipment from Netherlands (from Radium I think, which is the other factory that makes talalay) of all natural talalay latex and while it's not their usual continuous pour dunlop, you can get it now. Based on our previous discussion hereand lots of other research, talalay is slightly softer on softer levels and supposed to be even more breathable than dunlop. ***

I got my bed from last sale and I am very happy. I'll attach few pics below, since my full review is not yet ready.


Here are some of the details Smilie

[spindlemattress.com]
Deal [spindlemattress.com] use coupon code: TALALAY-5% for extra 5% off + free shipping (tax only in Mass).

After you add mattress to cart and where it says, Note to Spindle Mattress: put "I'd like talalay, thanks!" If you want dunlop, then say "I'd like dunlop" but I think talalay is their 1 time thing (unless something changes and we tell them we love it), so IMO it's definitely an attractive option

Prices are: Full $1082, Queen $1282, King $1615 + free shipping (other sizes also available). The bed will come in several UPS boxes and you just open it and assemble the layers.


some details from previous research:


I Personally have been in the market for Natural Latex so I spent last few month researching it, Pro's Con's, Manufacturers, ETC. These guys have the best prices when you do direct comparison. Most others, especially big brand names, going to charge you $3-5k for all natural latex mattress. They will also hide layers (ever noticed a mattress and no detailed information about its layers?), or use brand names to hide actual type of foam/materials. Many natural latex mattresses that are under $3k, usually have 1-2 layers of it (6" max and then other types of foam, such as memory or polyurethane). I would also keep in mind that many latex mattress are not 100% all natural or you 6" cores with 3" topper, which makes it very hard to change firmness, thus a very different product.

I also recommend that you get their foundation. Because latex is at least 2x heavier than a typical mattress, ideally you want a wooden foundation (for breathability) with slats placed 3" less. In my research, most other wooden foundations I encountered have slats placed between 3.5" to 4.5". If you already have foundation with slats, you can buy extra wood planks and place in between to reinforce it.They are available at Lowe's for below $2/plank and they will cut it to size for free.

This mattress has no complex construction or hidden layers: it's a 10" mattress with 3 x 3" continuous pour dunlop or talalay natural latex mattress + 1" from the organic cotton top + wool batting for fire protection.

They offer 4 softness layers - please see here [spindlemattress.com] for the details (construction tab). Some discussion about IDL's was pretty popular in the last thread. if you call them or drop them an email, they will be able to give you exact #'s.

They have also written very good articles regarding assembly [spindlemattress.com], selecting the right firmness [spindlemattress.com], and adjusting to latex [spindlemattress.com]

There are very few manufacturers who make natural latex. These guys get theirs from mountain top latex - (this is how they make it [youtube.com]). They use continuous poor dunlop method for their latex. There is little difference between talalay and dunlop method (final result) with main difference being slight softness difference at softer levels.

Some info about natural latex:

100% Natural Latex mattress is actually about 95% natural latex and ~5% binder. The main difference between natural latex versus synthetic is how it's made: natural latex is just that: all natural product (it's collected in the similar way as maple trees are tapped: a cut is made in the rubber tree and milky latex is collected). Natural latex is generally higher density than synthetic. They also feel different, with natural latex feeling springier. I handled some samples of natural latex that's how it felt to me. Best analogy I can provide is the cost difference between maple syrup and the initiation stuff in stores.
Benefits?

  • Made in USA
  • Very easy to put together (example video [youtube.com]) and because it has removable cover, it can be washed down the line.
  • All latex - featuring 3" layers in custom densities. Very easy to change comfort levels. Just unzip the cover and swap the layers.
  • Because it's a natural product, it's free of:chemicals usually found elsewhere (brominated compounds and antimony compounds).
  • Main difference between memory foam and this is the following: Latex is all natural product, sleeps much cooler than memory foam, much more durable than memory foam. Most high quality memory foam is still rare/expensive (5lbs+ density). In my view, it's better than innerspring because it offers much more support and generally should last longer. Also, most mass market innersprings use very low quality foam (mostly low density memory foam or polyurethane) that will break down in time. Mattress is only as good as it's weakest point. In this case, all natural latex has no obvious weak points.
most important: I found them to be down to earth & straight talkers. They didn't try to complicate things or rush me to buy it. If you have any questions, feel free to call or email them [spindlemattress.com] and ask. I did it 3-4 times before I made my decision


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any tips on ways to test drive a latex mattress ? I've been through 4 mattresses in 4 years...getting frustrated...
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any tips on ways to test drive a latex mattress ? I've been through 4 mattresses in 4 years...getting frustrated...

That was 1 of my issues too... how to buy latex without test driving. they are pretty close to me, so I was able to go there and lay down for few hours.


I think that will give you the best idea how it feels... As far as longer test drive... imo because it's all 1 mass (no layers or springs and such), all you have to worry about right softness and that can be changed with different layers.


Not sure if anyone can give you a correct answer, just hopefully some tips on how to narrow it downSmilie
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any tips on ways to test drive a latex mattress ? I've been through 4 mattresses in 4 years...getting frustrated...
I purchased a latex mattress about 20 years ago (way before it was hip) from a party that had purchased it and didn't like it.

So, you have a couple who didn't care for it and me who loves it and would never look back.

One of the best features of latex is that it has no "memory," meaning it doesn't show wear contours. I still flip and rotate mine and it looks exactly like the day I bought it.

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i bought my latex mattress from ebay for the about the same price. loving mine. be sure to get latex pillows too
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you had a spindle store near you ? I'm in Houston, surely there is somewhere I could go ?
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you had a spindle store near you ? I'm in Houston, surely there is somewhere I could go ?

Best place I could think of is Ikea. They make a natual latex mattress (it's nowher near as good as this though) and it should give you a decent try out for the time you are there. IMO, most important is how it feels when you initially lay down. That was my biggest concern
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any tips on ways to test drive a latex mattress ? I've been through 4 mattresses in 4 years...getting frustrated...
Short of a friend or family that might let you "sleep over" you might want to call higher end hotels / resorts near you to see if they use / offer natural latex mattress. In my travels I have run across a few in Canada & the US, more common in some overseas areas though.
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Any issues with those with latex allergies or is this a very obvious question? Thanks
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Any issues with those with latex allergies or is this a very obvious question? Thanks

I cant speak to that. I think the best way to decide is to ask a doctor, but except for initial handling it/moving layers, there should be at leastr few layers between you/latex (cover, mattress protected/ bed sheet).
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Strange, but their site appears to be down at the moment. I just get a 'coming soon' page.
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Strange, but their site appears to be down at the moment. I just get a 'coming soon' page.
same here lol
site down
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Wife loves our mattress warmer and won't live w/ot it. Can you put a mattress warmer on these?
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Wife loves our mattress warmer and won't live w/ot it. Can you put a mattress warmer on these?
On Plush beds where my mom got her mattress they said:

Appropriate Bedding
High-heat devices such as electric blankets, heating pads, irons or hair dryers can be used as long as they are not in direct contact with any natural latex component of your mattress.

http://www.plushbeds.com/use_care.html
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I have a Talalay latex mattress from Brooklyn Bedding, it is a blend and not all natural, and it is absolutely like sleeping on a cloud.
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