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Buying a home, no agent involved. Advice needed.

18,304 38,677 June 29, 2015 at 09:48 PM in Chat
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Okay, so the seller called about the house we want and she made an offer. It's slightly more than we were willing to offer, but not grotesque. She said she will split the cost of whatever the title company charges to research the title and will also split the attorney's fees. She absolutely, positively refuses to use an agent. She said if we hire one, we have to pay 100% of her commission.

I told her we needed to talk it over, get some estimates from the title company and see what hiring an attorney will cost. I realize we have to pay for an appraisal and the inspection. Actually, at this point, do we even need an appraisal? Huh We had an appraisal done by a licensed realtor when we were there a few weeks ago. The owner wasn't happy with what the realtor said so she's decided to go with an appraisal she got last July because it's higher.

Have any of you ever bought a home without using an agent?

Can a real estate attorney handle everything?

Are RE attorneys cheaper than RE agents?

At what point in the purchase do you hire the attorney?

Even if we pay her asking price, she's taking a HUGE loss. MASSIVE! I realize that's not our problem but we do want to be kind. We know our original offer is above the appraisal we got but we want the house ... she needs to sell the house ... and we're not assholes.

Any advice to offer?

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Zoe Moon
08-02-2015 at 08:37 PM.
08-02-2015 at 08:37 PM.
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He may have been trying to kill a spider that went into the hole. If he was trying to kill a spider with electricity I would give him a pass on that.
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But I think you're giving this guy more credit than he deserves. This is the same guy who 'installed' a ceiling fan in the family room by using a too short piece of metal, a round hook and an awl, all jammed inside the ceiling to hold up a ceiling fan. No brace, no outlet box.
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08-02-2015 at 08:46 PM.
08-02-2015 at 08:46 PM.
My inspector who my selling agent recommended didn't tell me about the water damage in one of my bath's walk in shower, but he did say my house had good bones lol.
What a bunch of crooks people in the real estate industry are.
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08-03-2015 at 03:58 AM.
08-03-2015 at 03:58 AM.
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You just never know about people and what's going on in their heads. The guy we bought our house from did everything half assed and never finished a single project on the house. He was also fond of cutting holes in the sheet rock and nailing molding with way too many nails, then never finished any of it, left all the holes and the nails in the molding exposed. I tried counting all the holes and got up to around forty-something and lost count. Just discovered yet another big hole just last week, behind a drawer in the master-bathroom, no clue why he put that hole there, no pipes or wiring are near there. Crazy

Edit: And recently DH found a wire hanging in the garage with the bare wire exposed, it was stuffed into a hole in a rafter in the garage. The wire was 240v and hot. EEK!
A single wire isn't 240v. If it was 240v, it would have been at least 3, if not 4 wires. Single wires (even in a 240v volt outlet) are 120v.
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08-03-2015 at 09:19 AM.
08-03-2015 at 09:19 AM.
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Update:

We agreed to a price a few days ago.

Today she EMAILED me Annoyed to say she wants to wait and sell in January.

Done. Sooooo done.

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Sorry. hug

This sounds like a tax related move to me. She wants/needs to claim the loss on the 2016 tax year. This probably means she's taking losses elsewhere this year and won't benefit much by selling the house at a loss in 2015. Or has had another renter lined up for enough time for it to be profitable for her to hang onto the house until 2016. Either way it sucks.
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08-03-2015 at 09:30 AM.
08-03-2015 at 09:30 AM.
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A single wire isn't 240v. If it was 240v, it would have been at least 3, if not 4 wires. Single wires (even in a 240v volt outlet) are 120v.
Wire/Cable, same thing.
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08-03-2015 at 09:42 AM.
08-03-2015 at 09:42 AM.
I'm ticked about it but my husband ... wow ... total meltdown. We shared the appraisal and inspection reports with her and he thinks she wanted them but her plan all along was to let us pay for them. I don't know what to make of it all.

We found out last night that she can no longer rent the house. The county commissioners have issued a "Cease & Desist" letter to anyone renting their homes for less than 6 months in residential areas. We knew they had issued some in another (lakeside) neighborhood but were not aware until last night that it applies to all homes in that county. They are being sued for it but until it goes before a judge, all property owners have been told they can no longer rent short-term. But since she lives out of state, we don't know if she knows that or not.

redjen, yes, she is already taking a loss this year on another property she sold this summer. I wish I knew more about taxes and loss and how much/how often you can claim it. We've taken a loss in the past but it wasn't on property, it was on investments. Same rules? Different rules? I don't know. Dontknow
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08-03-2015 at 10:11 AM.
08-03-2015 at 10:11 AM.
Are there good references for buying without agent ? Didn't had time to go through 10 pages
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08-03-2015 at 10:16 AM.
08-03-2015 at 10:16 AM.
Quote from MsGal :
I'm ticked about it but my husband ... wow ... total meltdown. We shared the appraisal and inspection reports with her and he thinks she wanted them but her plan all along was to let us pay for them. I don't know what to make of it all.

We found out last night that she can no longer rent the house. The county commissioners have issued a "Cease & Desist" letter to anyone renting their homes for less than 6 months in residential areas. We knew they had issued some in another (lakeside) neighborhood but were not aware until last night that it applies to all homes in that county. They are being sued for it but until it goes before a judge, all property owners have been told they can no longer rent short-term. But since she lives out of state, we don't know if she knows that or not.

redjen, yes, she is already taking a loss this year on another property she sold this summer. I wish I knew more about taxes and loss and how much/how often you can claim it. We've taken a loss in the past but it wasn't on property, it was on investments. Same rules? Different rules? I don't know. Dontknow
Wow, if that is the case... what a bitch.
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08-03-2015 at 10:32 AM.
08-03-2015 at 10:32 AM.
Why not just get an agent down there, have him come look at the house, and then tell him to find you something similar? There has got to be something close but a better buy with less hassle!
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08-03-2015 at 10:34 AM.
08-03-2015 at 10:34 AM.
My vote is still for :arson: or some variation of making her "disappear"
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ashcampbell
08-03-2015 at 11:27 AM.
08-03-2015 at 11:27 AM.
be like Alzheimer's...forget about it.
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08-03-2015 at 01:26 PM.
08-03-2015 at 01:26 PM.
Ok, this house better be like Cinderella's Castle on the ocean in terms of awesomeness for all the crap you're having to go through for it.
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08-03-2015 at 01:45 PM.
08-03-2015 at 01:45 PM.
Quote from dealgate :
Why not just get an agent down there, have him come look at the house, and then tell him to find you something similar? There has got to be something close but a better buy with less hassle!
This might be sneaky enough to work.
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08-03-2015 at 02:13 PM.
08-03-2015 at 02:13 PM.
laugh out loud


You guys always make me laugh.

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08-03-2015 at 02:41 PM.
08-03-2015 at 02:41 PM.
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My vote is still for :arson: or some variation of making her "disappear"

Well the house is on the ocean so......
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