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How to Remove Amazon Underground from S5 ?

sissy941 709 417 August 29, 2015 at 08:00 AM
I received notification several days ago that Amazon Underground "has been successfully installed" on my Galaxy S5. What is the best/safe way to remove it?

The convenience of all the Amazon apps on my phone is great but would rather uninstall it all if I have to due to the permissions. The main store app was part of the phone when purchased.

Thank you.

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I received notification several days ago that Amazon Underground "has been successfully installed" on my Galaxy S5. What is the best/safe way to remove it?

The convenience of all the Amazon apps on my phone is great but would rather uninstall it all if I have to due to the permissions. The main store app was part of the phone when purchased.

Thank you.
You can't uninstall system apps on Android. The system partition is read-only and not designed to be modified (which is a very good thing from a security perspective). What you need to do instead is disable apps. This is effectively the same thing as removing an app. It can't run and doesn't update. The only difference between disabling and uninstalling is that the bytes are still on your phone, which doesn't really matter because they're in read-only system space anyway.

To disable apps, here are some instructions: http://androidcentral.us/2014/04/...galaxy-s5/. Not having an S5, I can't test them myself.
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You can't uninstall system apps on Android. The system partition is read-only and not designed to be modified (which is a very good thing from a security perspective). What you need to do instead is disable apps. This is effectively the same thing as removing an app. It can't run and doesn't update. The only difference between disabling and uninstalling is that the bytes are still on your phone, which doesn't really matter because they're in read-only system space anyway.

To disable apps, here are some instructions: http://androidcentral.us/2014/04/...galaxy-s5/. Not having an S5, I can't test them myself.
Thank you. When attempting to disable apps a message appears "Disabling a built in app may cause problems with other apps. You data will also be deleted.". I suspect the other apps it refers to is the other Amazon apps and anything downloaded via their Appstore app.

The part " Your data will also be deleted" gives me cause for concern. Before posting I had read the Lifehacker story and searched google for how to uninstall the specific Amazon Underground App. I was probably too specific in my search.

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Thank you. I will check that out.
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Thank you. When attempting to disable apps a message appears "Disabling a built in app may cause problems with other apps. You data will also be deleted.". I suspect the other apps it refers to is the other Amazon apps and anything downloaded via their Appstore app.

The part " Your data will also be deleted" gives me cause for concern. Before posting I had read the Lifehacker story and searched google for how to uninstall the specific Amazon Underground App. I was probably too specific in my search.

Thanks again,
That sounds like a generic message, but yes, if you disable the Amazon App store, you will loss access to any apps that you install through it, as well as any settings or data associated it/them. In general, the system can't predict the interaction between apps and what happens when you remove one of them, so it errs on the side of big scary messages, but in this case it's correct.

Amazon Underground is basically a replacement for/addition to the Amazon App store. I know the Amazon App store asks for some pretty broad permissions. If you were comfortable with the Amazon App store on your phone, is Underground actually any worse?
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I agree with OP. Amazon has taken back their Amazon "free" apps by requireing an always on android device. Some of the better apps still run for me. The added requirement is somewhat summed up here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012...-appstore/.
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. If you were comfortable with the Amazon App store on your phone, is Underground actually any worse?
It came installed and active on my phone. It was always in the back of my mind to investigate but I never did. Once I received the alert that Underground had been autmatically installed I started investigating. From what I understand Amazon Underground is asking for a lot more permissions than the App Store had.

Unfortunately it appears Amazon merged the App Store reviews and Underground together. If you look at the most recent reviews for every 2 or 3 positive there are negative regarding the permissions.

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Amazon Underground IS the Amazon app. They just renamed it with the latest update.

To get rid of it just root the phone. (As suggested, google XDA Developers Galaxy S5. You will find everything you need there to root the S5. You will find it is painfully simple.)

Once the phone is rooted you will have full access to the system partition. Uninstalling the Amazon app will be just like uninstalling everything else.

You do NOT need to put a full custom ROM on the phone to do this. You can simply root the stock ROM.

And if you want, you can disable the root after it's done.

The whole process should take no more than 15 minutes. And that's if it's your first time. (It would take me 2) It's really easy to root Samsung devices. Samsung sets up their phones to make it simple on purpose.
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Thanks for the info. The app store app kept giving me update notices every few days for underground. I finally just uninstalled the app store app. I think I'll wait until marshmallow hits before trying to reinstall so that I can take advantage of the granular permissions control.
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Thanks for the info. The app store app kept giving me update notices every few days for underground. I finally just uninstalled the app store app. I think I'll wait until marshmallow hits before trying to reinstall so that I can take advantage of the granular permissions control.
Or just install a custom ROM now and get granular permissions control.

I have an S4 with that kind of control due to my custom 4.4.4 ROM. Works great.
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Or just install a custom ROM now and get granular permissions control.

I have an S4 with that kind of control due to my custom 4.4.4 ROM. Works great.
I have CM12.1, but I don't see where I can implement granular permissions controls?
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I have CM12.1, but I don't see where I can implement granular permissions controls?
Oh dude....your life is about to change. Here's a guide on how to use Privacy Guard with CM12.

https://www.julianevansblog.com/2...guard.html

Unless the developer of your CM version removed it, in which case get another ROM. I won't use a phone without this feature anymore. Google can demand all the permissions it wants and I can say "No!" with absolute authority. I have no fear of any other app and tis' goofy permission requests either. Like the Amazon app that is lambasted on the Amazon website for wanting literally EVERY SINGLE permission available and being a security nightmare as a result...I run it without a single worry because it only has access to my camera and wifi. It can't see my contacts. I can't see my call history, view my photos, check phone status, get location, etc etc etc.

You can check to make sure the Permissions Management works properly easily. Just deny your phone app permission to see your contacts and your SMS app permission to see your text messages. (Don't worry. You can turn them back on easily) Then look at your phone app and text messenger and you shouldn't see any data. Turn the permissions back on and your contacts and messages should all reappear.

I also recommend a firewall app too that blocks web access to any app you haven't given specific permission to. REALLY cuts down on your background data usage and battery life.
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