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Woot has several mid to higher end Onkyo models for 50% off MSRP

Looks like the pre/pro is the only thing that HDCP 2.2 compatible
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TU -- these are nice prices.
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Too bad Onkyo is crap these days, IMO. This is another brand running on the fumes of prior greatness. When yours breaks, you'll find, like I did, that their customer service is pretty bad, too.
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Too bad Onkyo is crap these days, IMO. This is another brand running on the fumes of prior greatness. When yours breaks, you'll find, like I did, that their customer service is pretty bad, too.
Agreed 100%. The whole HDMI issues has given me a sour taste for Onkyo. They were great in the early-mid 2000s, but ever since their overheating debacle this brand needs to die! And to those who say they were willing to fix it, they only fixed certain issues, my 605 wasn't on their list of serials that had whatever issues they decided to fix even though it did have the HDMI overheating issues. Stay away from the brand, stick to Yamaha/Pioneer/Denon.
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Agreed 100%. The whole HDMI issues has given me a sour taste for Onkyo. They were great in the early-mid 2000s, but ever since their overheating debacle this brand needs to die! And to those who say they were willing to fix it, they only fixed certain issues, my 605 wasn't on their list of serials that had whatever issues they decided to fix even though it did have the HDMI overheating issues. Stay away from the brand, stick to Yamaha/Pioneer/Denon.
It wasn't just overheating, they also had that issue with that goo the messed up the boards over time and they would freak out and randomly change inputs. The brand's been a mess for at least the last 5-7 years. Joined Nakamichi in the "former good brand that now sucks" category. I guess Kmart will be pimping Onkyo soon, too.
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Quote from gaijin4life View Post :
Too bad Onkyo is crap these days, IMO. This is another brand running on the fumes of prior greatness. When yours breaks, you'll find, like I did, that their customer service is pretty bad, too.
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Agreed 100%. The whole HDMI issues has given me a sour taste for Onkyo. They were great in the early-mid 2000s, but ever since their overheating debacle this brand needs to die! And to those who say they were willing to fix it, they only fixed certain issues, my 605 wasn't on their list of serials that had whatever issues they decided to fix even though it did have the HDMI overheating issues. Stay away from the brand, stick to Yamaha/Pioneer/Denon.
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It wasn't just overheating, they also had that issue with that goo the messed up the boards over time and they would freak out and randomly change inputs. The brand's been a mess for at least the last 5-7 years. Joined Nakamichi in the "former good brand that now sucks" category. I guess Kmart will be pimping Onkyo soon, too.
while it true that Onkyo has had some issues...they have extended warranties until 2018 on any unit that is less than 5 years old
I have owned several Onkyo's...while I have had some repair work done
performance for the dollar..on the higher end of the spectrum cant be beat
there was simply nothing like those old THX ultra models...805,875,876,905,906...at the time
and FYI...I would put them in the same league as Denon products...and I have owned a 4308, 4310 and 4520(now)
4308 was bought back by Denon...4310 was a crap product( for the money) and I sold it on Ebay
4520 has been in the shop once..it is fails again I will sell it right after the warranty work is done

if you want rock solid reliability...I say dont even consider anything other than Yamaha
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It wasn't just overheating, they also had that issue with that goo the messed up the boards over time and they would freak out and randomly change inputs..
BTW...I meant to point out .....that is just false
That was cable...and it was recalled and fixed proactively by Onkyo

I more I see you post..The more I doubt you have ever even owned an Onkyo product
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BTW...I meant to point out .....that is just false
That was cable...and it was recalled and fixed proactively by Onkyo

I more I see you post..The more I doubt you have ever even owned an Onkyo product
No, it WASN'T a cable on the one I'm talking about (they've had similar issues on MULTIPLE lines over the past 5 or so years). People that had the issue I experienced took theirs apart and took pictures of the protective goo that actually started messing up the performance after about a year. If Onkyo support hadn't DELETED my posts for bringing up the problems publicly and demanding they pay shipping both ways for the repairs (which I got) to try to keep a lid on it, I'd happily point you to the support threads on multiple units, but in addition to deleting the posts they banned me from posting any more details of their problems to alert other owners.

Nice customer service, huh? Online, they Deny and Delete problems until they become so widespread they have to admit to them. That's my Onkyo experience (before I swore them off after being a fan for decades), and I'm not alone. They suck now.
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No, it WASN'T a cable on the one I'm talking about (they've had similar issues on MULTIPLE lines over the past 5 or so years). People that had the issue I experienced took theirs apart and took pictures of the protective goo that actually started messing up the performance after about a year. If Onkyo support hadn't DELETED my posts for bringing up the problems publicly and demanding they pay shipping both ways for the repairs (which I got) to try to keep a lid on it, I'd happily point you to the support threads on multiple units, but in addition to deleting the posts they banned me from posting any more details of their problems to alert other owners.

Nice customer service, huh? Online, they Deny and Delete problems until they become so widespread they have to admit to them. That's my Onkyo experience (before I swore them off after being a fan for decades), and I'm not alone. They suck now.
post a link to issues with goo that has happened multiple times...make sure your link/data includes models numbers and time frames
trust me I have owned at least 6 Onkyos in the last 10 years

If what you say is true...thats interesting
I have had no such situation
They repaired an 875 under warranty...replaced a 905 with a 5009 under warranty...and most recently replaced a 5508 pre/pro with a brand new 5509( not refurbished) pre/pro under warranty, as well
for comparison purposes..Denon has also both repaired and replaced product for me under warranty as well

Yours..if its accurate...frankly sounds like a very isolated case

on another note...why would someone take something apart that is under warranty
You stated they took their units apart after about a year?......Onkyo's have a 2 year factory warranty
Who would open their unit up and void their warranty?

Your information does not sound credible
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post a link to issues with goo that has happened multiple times...make sure your link/data includes models numbers and time frames
trust me I have owned at least 6 Onkyos in the last 10 years

If what you say is true...thats interesting
I have had no such situation
They repaired an 875 under warranty...replaced a 905 with a 5009 under warranty...and most recently replaced a 5508 pre/pro with a brand new 5509( not refurbished) pre/pro under warranty, as well
for comparison purposes..Denon has also both repaired and replaced product for me under warranty as well

Yours..if its accurate...frankly sounds like a very isolated case
Did you pay for the shipping to the repair depot? I refused to since the issues weren't things that happened in the normal course of use, but were due to incompetence/corner cutting. And when I refused and started encouraging others to request shipping paid to/from the repair depot, they deleted the posts and banned me - twice (IP bans are stupid and ineffective, but I gave up after two bans). I actually had to enlist the retailer to force Onkyo to take care of the TX-NR808 with the "protective" goo gone wild and swap it for an 809. I don't remember the model of the other one offhand I made them pay shipping for both ways to the repair depot in the Midwest that was backed up for like 6 weeks (ridiculous, and shows how much crap needed repair or how badly they're managing their repair timelines). And from others I know when Onkyo, these reliability issues are not abnormal. You can literally FEEL the difference in how light they are now compared to 10 years ago.
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I have the TX-NR838 - absolutely no problems; previously had 7 series (can't remember - ?727), also worked flawlessly - only replaced it to get 4k compatibility.
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no audyssey=no deal..
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Did you pay for the shipping to the repair depot? I refused to since the issues weren't things that happened in the normal course of use, but were due to incompetence/corner cutting. And when I refused and started encouraging others to request shipping paid to/from the repair depot, they deleted the posts and banned me - twice (IP bans are stupid and ineffective, but I gave up after two bans). I actually had to enlist the retailer to force Onkyo to take care of the TX-NR808 with the "protective" goo gone wild and swap it for an 809. I don't remember the model of the other one offhand I made them pay shipping for both ways to the repair depot in the Midwest that was backed up for like 6 weeks (ridiculous, and shows how much crap needed repair or how badly they're managing their repair timelines). And from others I know when Onkyo, these reliability issues are not abnormal. You can literally FEEL the difference in how light they are now compared to 10 years ago.
do you have any credible verifiable information?
yes..I paid for shipping one way to a repair depot
ALL manufacturers require that you do that

Later I moved to an area that had repair depots in the same city I lived in
So..I took both Onkyo and Denon products to the authorized repair center for repairs

in regard to what you can literally FEEL
an Onkyo 875 from 2007 weighs with two pounds of a 3010....they are both thx ultra rated models...both weighing in at about 50lbs

what am I FEELING?

do you have any good information?

thus far everything you say has big holes in it

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no audyssey=no deal..
invest in Dirac
you will never want any room correction that the Asians offer anymore
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do you have any credible verifiable information?
yes..I paid for shipping one way to a repair depot
ALL manufacturers require that you do that
No, all of them ASK you to do that - it's not set in stone for any of them and is totally situational. Any SDer worth their salt would know that. Onkyo is the only receiver manufacturer (having had Denon, Yamaha, Harmon Kardon, Marantz, and Pioneer over the years) I was so incensed with that I demanded they pay shipping both ways, which they did. I looked for the email, but all they sent was this in August of 2013:

"Please confirm your current address and I will ask for some special accommodation.
Best Regards;
FM- DP
Onkyo USA Parts & Services Department"

And the box with prepaid label showed up in a couple weeks with no further communication to even tell me it was coming (they had banned me already from their forums for encouraging others to demand shipping as well and calling them out on the issue)

In fact, they were nice enough to tell me I couldn't disclose anything they said (which I never agreed to) with this boiler plate on the same email:

"CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
This e-mail message and any attachments from Onkyo USA Corporation is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail by accident, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and all copies of it."

Which is more new, crappy Onkyo total BS bad-feelings making customer service.

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in regard to what you can literally FEEL
an Onkyo 875 from 2007 weighs with two pounds of a 3010....they are both thx ultra rated models...both weighing in at about 50lbs
I'm talking even older than that. They used much heavier duty components when they were more reliable. 2007 is too close to the timeframe when they started cutting corners to compare weight, IMO.


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do you have any good information?
thus far everything you say has big holes in it
Who cares what you think or if you even believe this (even though I went to the trouble of searching old email to find you some requested "proof")?

I just put out my experience with Onkyo and why I've sworn them off. They are a shadow of the brand they used to be. I'm not trying to change YOUR mind. Believe what you will. I'm just putting it out there for people considering the brand that I had multiple bad experiences before I swore them off and others have too. Consider me the yang to your yin.
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No, all of them ASK you to do that - it's not set in stone for any of them and is totally situational. Any SDer worth their salt would know that. Onkyo is the only receiver manufacturer (having had Denon, Yamaha, Harmon Kardon, Marantz, and Pioneer over the years) I was so incensed with that I demanded they pay shipping both ways, which they did. I looked for the email, but all they sent was this in August of 2013:

"Please confirm your current address and I will ask for some special accommodation.
Best Regards;
FM- DP
Onkyo USA Parts & Services Department"

And the box with prepaid label showed up in a couple weeks with no further communication to even tell me it was coming (they had banned me already from their forums for encouraging others to demand shipping as well and calling them out on the issue)

In fact, they were nice enough to tell me I couldn't disclose anything they said (which I never agreed to) with this boiler plate on the same email:

"CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE
This e-mail message and any attachments from Onkyo USA Corporation is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail by accident, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail and all copies of it."

Which is more new, crappy Onkyo total BS.



I'm talking even older than that. They used much heavier duty components when they were more reliable. 2007 is too close to the timeframe when they started cutting corners to compare weight, IMO.




Who cares what you think or if you even believe this (even though I went to the trouble of searching old email to find you some "proof"?

I just put out my experience with Onkyo and why I've sworn them off. They are a shadow of the brand they used to be. I'm not trying to change YOUR mind. Believe what you will. I'm just putting it out there that I had multiple bad experiences before I swore them off and others have too.
Weight is only part of the story. Newer receivers use more efficient power supplies that weigh much less. Receivers that use Class D amps also weigh less.
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