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In need of a security camera system, what brand to get?

xNico 1,492 846 October 6, 2015 at 06:37 PM
I want to install a system onto my mothers home, which brand should I get? I want a wired(unless someone can tell me why i should get wireless)one as they are more reliable(?) and does not require internet access, unless needed for updates ect. Looking for a 4-6 camera system at around $300-600

I've never install a system before, but it shouldn't too too hard.

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I want to install a system onto my mothers home, which brand should I get? I want a wired(unless someone can tell me why i should get wireless)one as they are more reliable(?) and does not require internet access, unless needed for updates ect. Looking for a 4-6 camera system at around $300-600

I've never install a system before, but it shouldn't too too hard.

TIA
Get the 4 camera system here. Its a rebranded hikvision system. 1080p.
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Out of curiosity, been thinking about upgrading my external security system which came with my house. Right now though, they get power over a single coax\cable of some sort as best I can tell and there are no ethernet wires running. Obliviously would just like to replace the cameras and DVR and use the existing wiring. Any idea which system to get? My security company are a bunch of crooks when it comes to charging for upgrades and equipment and I frankly just assume tell them to go shove it if I can do it myself.
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Thanks, should i get the purple or red wd drive? I read some reviews about purple and most of them seem to be bad, but thats only on newegg, reviews are higher in amazon
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Out of curiosity, been thinking about upgrading my external security system which came with my house. Right now though, they get power over a single coax\cable of some sort as best I can tell and there are no ethernet wires running. Obliviously would just like to replace the cameras and DVR and use the existing wiring. Any idea which system to get? My security company are a bunch of crooks when it comes to charging for upgrades and equipment and I frankly just assume tell them to go shove it if I can do it myself.
Get power over Ethernet cameras and have a network cabling company (or yourself) install CAT5e cables to each camera location. Your old coax cables will still work, but lots more choice with PoE. This will require an entire new system including the DVR however.
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Thanks, should i get the purple or red wd drive? I read some reviews about purple and most of them seem to be bad, but thats only on newegg, reviews are higher in amazon
Either will work..I would use purple.

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Out of curiosity, been thinking about upgrading my external security system which came with my house. Right now though, they get power over a single coax\cable of some sort as best I can tell and there are no ethernet wires running. Obliviously would just like to replace the cameras and DVR and use the existing wiring. Any idea which system to get? My security company are a bunch of crooks when it comes to charging for upgrades and equipment and I frankly just assume tell them to go shove it if I can do it myself.
Like dealgate says, the best option is to run new cable. A pro can do it nice and clean. If you want to use the existing coax, look at hikvision TVI or dahua CVI systems that are HD over coax.
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Like dealgate says, the best option is to run new cable. A pro can do it nice and clean. If you want to use the existing coax, look at hikvision TVI or dahua CVI systems that are HD over coax.

Yeah I am sure of that but my Security company is a bunch of crooks when it comes to upgrades (as are most of them in this area of the country). They even try to screw you over with extra motion sensors and stuff like that. I really do not want to give them any more business than I have to because they gouge so much. Figured I could do most of it except for the wiring but I will probably just leave it alone and live with the cameras I have.

Never ceases to amaze me though how that particular business drives people away from additional work with their ludicrous labor\installation charges.
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Yeah I am sure of that but my Security company is a bunch of crooks when it comes to upgrades (as are most of them in this area of the country). They even try to screw you over with extra motion sensors and stuff like that. I really do not want to give them any more business than I have to because they gouge so much. Figured I could do most of it except for the wiring but I will probably just leave it alone and live with the cameras I have.

Never ceases to amaze me though how that particular business drives people away from additional work with their ludicrous labor\installation charges.
You dont need to hire the security company to pull cable...there are professionals who do this..many phone/alarm guys will do it. About 100 dollars per drop..You can then install the cameras yourself.
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You dont need to hire the security company to pull cable...there are professionals who do this..many phone/alarm guys will do it. About 100 dollars per drop..You can then install the cameras yourself.
Probably not as hard as you think either. Usually most houses have a passageway from the basement into the attic for pipes, vents, etc. Find this and use it to run the cables into the attic. From the attic you can put the cameras anywhere around your house. You could even come out under your eves and snake them behind the siding for mounting lower down. Terminating Ethernet is easy as well, just follow the color code diagram on the jack/outlet and use a cheap plastic punch down tool. 5000 ft of Cat 5e is cheap. Get your neighborhood kid to help and if he does a good job, buy him an XBox.
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Probably not as hard as you think either. Usually most houses have a passageway from the basement into the attic for pipes, vents, etc. Find this and use it to run the cables into the attic. From the attic you can put the cameras anywhere around your house. You could even come out under your eves and snake them behind the siding for mounting lower down. Terminating Ethernet is easy as well, just follow the color code diagram on the jack/outlet and use a cheap plastic punch down tool. 5000 ft of Cat 5e is cheap. Get your neighborhood kid to help and if he does a good job, buy him an XBox.
My sister called a guy and he asked for 1.1k for the cameras+installation. The cameras I'm guessing are the cheap $100-200 sets. As for the wires, the place I live in is built with bricks, when the cable guy came in to install wires, it took him almost 2 hours for 2 holes LMAO, so its not that easy for some. He could've saved an hour if he drilled from the outside between the bricks instead of the inside. I decided to do the installation myself since I had the time and it'll save a it of cash, on top of that I get to learn something new Smilie.

I had to pretty much buy everything, crimpers, Ethernet heads, long drill bit, but since the camera only requires an Ethernet cable..easy.
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My sister called a guy and he asked for 1.1k for the cameras+installation. The cameras I'm guessing are the cheap $100-200 sets. As for the wires, the place I live in is built with bricks, when the cable guy came in to install wires, it took him almost 2 hours for 2 holes LMAO, so its not that easy for some. He could've saved an hour if he drilled from the outside between the bricks instead of the inside. I decided to do the installation myself since I had the time and it'll save a it of cash, on top of that I get to learn something new Smilie.

I had to pretty much buy everything, crimpers, Ethernet heads, long drill bit, but since the camera only requires an Ethernet cable..easy.
Awesome! That's my take on it also. Gotta start somewhere!
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What kind of staple gun do you guys for for stapling Ethernet wire onto dry wall? narrow crowns or round crowns? I can't seem to find a reliable round crown stapler.
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What kind of staple gun do you guys for for stapling Ethernet wire onto dry wall? narrow crowns or round crowns? I can't seem to find a reliable round crown stapler.
Stapling ethernet cable is generally frowned upon, it's very easy to damage the cable. If you want to use a staple gun, the only acceptable type would use insulated staples. You could use these if stapling by hand: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardne.../100199530
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What kind of staple gun do you guys for for stapling Ethernet wire onto dry wall? narrow crowns or round crowns? I can't seem to find a reliable round crown stapler.
This makes no sense. Are you running the cabling on top of the baseboard right on the drywall? They have clips you can use for this. Staples are not the answer.
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Stapling ethernet cable is generally frowned upon, it's very easy to damage the cable. If you want to use a staple gun, the only acceptable type would use insulated staples. You could use these if stapling by hand: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Gardne.../100199530
Thankss, I bought some monoprice cable clips before hand, but had only plan on using them outside the house.
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