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Woodworkers - need finishing advice

dealgate 6,348 1,085 October 15, 2015 at 11:37 AM
I had a very nice piece of Cherry that I got thrown in with a lumber order that was not big enough for much. So the other day I made a small box out of it. Took a total of 3 hours from rough sawn to what you see in the picture, including the finish which I used boiled linseed oil, which is fast becoming my favorite finish.

So my question is, I am thinking of a final polish with bees wax. I am not sure what this will do to the linseed I think it will really make it pop. Anyone here do any woodworking and can give some advice with bees wax?

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I works well and gives it some shine after the oil.

http://www.woodsmith.com/files/is...-46-47.pdf

Quick article on it if it helps. Not that I am taking any responsibility if you don't like it.

Nice work by the way. Wish I had that skill.
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Nice work!, I have recently ran across some guys on youtube making things on a lathe and it makes me wish I had one.
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Nice work!, I have recently ran across some guys on youtube making things on a lathe and it makes me wish I had one.
Thanks! I have everything but a lathe. Turning is an art-form unto itself. I suck at corners I have a hard time doing finger joints or dovetails but I can do rabbits so that is what I do.

Woodworking isn't hard just takes patience.
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OK so my gf loved the box but she wants to use it as a jewelry box and asked me to put some compartments and trays in it. I built the below. The larger one fits snugly in the box and the smaller one sits on top of that one and slides back and forth and can be lifted out. I ran out of that piece of cherry so I made the smaller slide tray out of the same maple I made the handle out of.

My question is has anyone done flocking? I think flocking is the way to go for this particular piece and I was thinking to flock both trays with a wine colored flocking.

I've never done it before so looking for tips!

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Nice work!
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My question is has anyone done flocking? I think flocking is the way to go for this particular piece and I was thinking to flock both trays with a wine colored flocking.
I forgot the word flocking, but I did it on a box I made back in high school wood shop. It's pretty easy. I don't remember for sure, but I think I used a aerosol can of spray adhesive something like Super 77. Once you've got adhesive applied evenly everywhere you just pour it around until it sticks everywhere and dump out the loose excess. Wait for the adhesive to cure and you can remove/even out any unevenness or excess. Watch a few videos and maybe try a small test first. you might want to use masking tape to keep it off of surface if you don't want it on there.

It's better to use have too much / too thick a layer of flocking initially. If you don't use enough and end up with any thin spots you can't exactly add to it in the future. I think lighter colors would show imperfections more than darker colors
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Finally got my flocking and the glue for it. Just flocked the hell out of it. Waiting 10 hours for it to dry and then cleanup!

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Finally got my flocking and the glue for it. Just flocked the hell out of it. Waiting 10 hours for it to dry and then cleanup!
Looking good. It's going to look great after you clean it up. In retrospect, the glue I used may have been color matched to the flocking. It looks like you got a pretty even coat of the adhesive which is key. Some adhesive may have gotten on the top face of the tray, removing that could be a little tricky. Did you already put wax on the box / trays?

To remove excess, I'd start by putting the entire piece inside a plastic bag and turning it over and tapping / shaking. It will help you collect the excess (which can be reused) and minimize dust (a mask is a good idea too). A paint brush is a good option to even out any other irregularities / remove stubborn excess, but don't use one that's too stiff.
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Looking good. It's going to look great after you clean it up. In retrospect, the glue I used may have been color matched to the flocking. It looks like you got a pretty even coat of the adhesive which is key. Some adhesive may have gotten on the top face of the tray, removing that could be a little tricky. Did you already put wax on the box / trays?

To remove excess, I'd start by putting the entire piece inside a plastic bag and turning it over and tapping / shaking. It will help you collect the excess (which can be reused) and minimize dust (a mask is a good idea too). A paint brush is a good option to even out any other irregularities / remove stubborn excess, but don't use one that's too stiff.
I painted the glue on (color matched, same maker) and then immediately put the flocking on and pressed it in to all the crevasses. There isn't any glue on the top edge that is just where I left it when done spreading it. I didn't spray it since it is such a small piece. The directions say not to worry about any flocking that settles where there is no glue that it will come right off. Hopefully it does! I will use the bag idea I want to save as much as possible it is a little expensive.

I'll post more pictures tomorrow after it is cleaned up. Oh I did not wax this piece yet the flocking directions say to seal it and that's it. I used the boiled linseed oil which has been drying for about a week.

This is a suede flocking in "wine" color.
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I painted the glue on (color matched, same maker) and then immediately put the flocking on and pressed it in to all the crevasses.

Oh I did not wax this piece yet the flocking directions say to seal it and that's it. I used the boiled linseed oil which has been drying for about a week.
You have to be careful about "pressing it in", you do want to make sure it gets in all the crevices but too much pressure will flatten it out too much and reduce the total amount of flocking that sticks. You have to be pretty gentle when applying the actual flocking, which is why tools to dust/spray it on exist. I just kind of poured it around on my box back in wood shop. I remember someone else who flocked a box overworked it and it didn't come out too good.

That said, I think your's is going to come out fine. I think it's good you didn't wax it yet. If you do end up with anything that doesn't easily clean off of the top surface, try a stiff brush first. If that doesn't get the job done, a very small amount of wax or oil might get the job done (like dissolves like). I had a little bit of adhesive transfer from my finger and had a little cleanup I had to do.
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All done! The flocking looks good except for places I smudged the glue. I might just sand the top down again to even it out and make it look better. I am just concerned the sawdust will get totally impregnated in the flocking. The top tray is perfect. I'll try a test and see.

Next time I will mask off the parts I don't want flocking on.






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I just sanded it down it looks much better. I was able to get the sawdust out with the shop-vac. I put a light coat of linseed oil on the edges and will let it sit for a day, then I'm done. The next will be a larger box with hinges out of figured maple.

I ordered a flocking sprayer for the next project.
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I just sanded it down it looks much better. I was able to get the sawdust out with the shop-vac. I put a light coat of linseed oil on the edges and will let it sit for a day, then I'm done. The next will be a larger box with hinges out of figured maple.

I ordered a flocking sprayer for the next project.
I'd suggest concealed barrel hinges or something similar:

I think I had to do some sanding and vacuuming on my box too, but that was over 10 years ago so my memory is a little fuzzy. I think it's possible you could have some of the flocking fibers wick some adhesive up to the top edge. I think that happened on mine. The sprayer should help with a larger piece, but getting a uniform coat of adhesive everywhere fast enough could be a little challenging.
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I got my flocking sprayer and it came with full instructions on how to properly flock. I did a number of things wrong. Like you said, just spray (or spread) and leave it be - no patting it in. Also should not have vacuumed until it was totally set (a week). So next time I will know.

I do like those barrel hinges. Not sure what I will use. I like the Brusso stuff but wow is it expensive! I was looking at quadrant hinges since I also want to make a humidor at some point.

All in all it came out very well.
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