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decision between 2013 Plasma 64" vs 2015 LED 65"

JayC3270 198 22 October 27, 2015 at 10:09 AM
Apologies for my bad English.

I've been very satisfied my current setup - Panasonic U50 50" plasma (2012 model).
We are moving to a house that the viewing distance for the living room will be about 12ft.

I am considering an upgrade to 65" LED (50" will be too small for that distance..)

I researched little bit and it appears even mid-range LED TV is inferior to Plasma TV (for PQ and black level)

I could purchase 2013 Samsung mid-low range Plasma (I believe it is F5500).


Question. I am not sure if 2013 Plasma (not the high-end model) is still better than latest LED TV (say, Samsung 6300 or Vizio M65)?
Plasma will be $2-300 cheaper.

Did anyone switch from old Plasma to LED recently? Any comment will be appreciated.

TIA!

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I currently own both the F5500 and F8500 series Plasma and I will wait for another generation of LED's before upgrading. The new LED's are just not at par with the older Plasma series. Try to find yourself a used 65 inch Samsung Plasma.
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I currently own both the F5500 and F8500 series Plasma and I will wait for another generation of LED's before upgrading. The new LED's are just not at par with the older Plasma series. Try to find yourself a used 65 inch Samsung Plasma.
Thanks for your comment. Have you watched f5500 in a room with lots of windows? That is my only concern f5500 got a bad review for that regard.
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The F8500 has no issues in a room with a lot of windows. Yes the F5XXX does have issues with windows. I personally do not have an issue with windows as most of my TV watching is during the night.
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I have a pn64h5000 and a un75hu8550, along with a bunch of even older plasmas. I definitely won't be buying another LED until oled comes down. Even the "bargain" h5000 looks 100x better. I prefer my old Mitsubishi DLP over the LED as well. If you can still find one of the Samsung plasmas, I would jump on it.
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I have a pn64h5000 and a un75hu8550, along with a bunch of even older plasmas. I definitely won't be buying another LED until oled comes down. Even the "bargain" h5000 looks 100x better. I prefer my old Mitsubishi DLP over the LED as well. If you can still find one of the Samsung plasmas, I would jump on it.
Thanks. I can get f5500 64"
The living room has 6 windows. We are watching 40% day 60% night.

My current setup (panasonic u50) also got bad reviews on reflections under lights. If f5500 is little better or the same, i will be satisfied.
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Yes the F5500 will be better than the older Panny. The older Panny is great as well.
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Plasma without a doubt until you can afford OLED.
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It's a no-brainer, go for the M65. The F5500 was a decent TV but nothing spectacular. The M65 has local dimming which you don't find in most mid range LCDs and therefore has better blacks and contrast than most. With the feature set the M65 has it would be foolish to go with the plasma.

Here's a direct comparison of the M65 to the F8500

http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166...eview.html

"In a dark room, playing movies, the M65 manages to hold its own against one of the last and greatest plasma TVs ever made. If you add any ambient light to the equation, the M65 looks better than the plasma."
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The problems with plasma are low brightness and very few companies make them anymore. So there is not a wide variety, and they won't look very good in a bright room. To get the quality out of them, the room should be dark (which is true of all TV's, but more true of plasma). The lower overall brightness limits High Dynamic Range abilities.

OLED TV's are now being developed by LG and Samsung. LG is manufacturing white OLED's with colored filters over each LED. Samsung is making actual RG and B colored OLED's. But OLED technology still has some significant challenges. They don't wear evenly, particularly from one color to another. So the color balance can be affected over time unless you can recalibrate the display.

LED's are changing a lot as well. The dynamic backlights are much improved, and much brighter, offering extremely high dynamic range, better maximum brightness for daytime viewing, long lifetimes, low power, and new Quantum Dot technology panels which offer a far wider wider gamut, meaning less banding and better, richer color saturation.

Overall, the biggest change in television is the advent next year of High Dynamic Range (HDR) content which will become available. This will make a massive difference in viewing quality. There are very few sets with HDR support, and that is something you want if you're buying a new set. You should look for a minimum of 600 nits of brightness and support for HDR. A Quantum Dot-based panel with HDR support would, in my opinion, be the best TV available, and you should wait for these new models to come out in the January ~ March timeframe from major TV makers.
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Plasma any day.
At-least until OLED comes down in price.
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The problems with plasma are low brightness and very few companies make them anymore. So there is not a wide variety, and they won't look very good in a bright room. To get the quality out of them, the room should be dark (which is true of all TV's, but more true of plasma). The lower overall brightness limits High Dynamic Range abilities.

OLED TV's are now being developed by LG and Samsung. LG is manufacturing white OLED's with colored filters over each LED. Samsung is making actual RG and B colored OLED's. But OLED technology still has some significant challenges. They don't wear evenly, particularly from one color to another. So the color balance can be affected over time unless you can recalibrate the display.

LED's are changing a lot as well. The dynamic backlights are much improved, and much brighter, offering extremely high dynamic range, better maximum brightness for daytime viewing, long lifetimes, low power, and new Quantum Dot technology panels which offer a far wider wider gamut, meaning less banding and better, richer color saturation.

Overall, the biggest change in television is the advent next year of High Dynamic Range (HDR) content which will become available. This will make a massive difference in viewing quality. There are very few sets with HDR support, and that is something you want if you're buying a new set. You should look for a minimum of 600 nits of brightness and support for HDR. A Quantum Dot-based panel with HDR support would, in my opinion, be the best TV available, and you should wait for these new models to come out in the January ~ March timeframe from major TV makers.
Thanks for your comment. I looked at quantum dot panels and realized they are pricey. I will probably wait until the end of year for slickdeals.

Hopefully thise fancy tvs will come down to my price range. Also i hope to take advantage of Apple pay+discover 20% back. Unfortunately the offer is until the end of 2015.

Can you recommend a tv 65-70" that is the most cost/performance effective? My budget is anything below $2200 ish..

Thanks a lot!
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Gotta decide, is the best picture worth a sauna in the summer time?
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I would think that for at least a couple months after you move, other things will be more important than upgrading your tv. You may also discover things about the house that are hard to live with and spending that much on a tv.
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I would think that for at least a couple months after you move, other things will be more important than upgrading your tv. You may also discover things about the house that are hard to live with and spending that much on a tv.
This is exactly what my wife said. I kind of agree with it : )
Thanks for your comment!
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