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Help finding new Page Plus phone 4GLTE

karrun 4,401 808 November 3, 2015 at 11:51 AM
It's been ages since I've bought a new phone and apparently Page Plus is a lot different than what its been in the past in terms of what phones will work. My husband really needs a new phone- HTC Titan LOL, and we need to stay on Verizon's towers. I see it will cost a minimum of $50 for a smartphone on Verizon, so I would like to stay with PP and get him the $29.95 plan with 4G. But I am super confused as to how to get a reasonably priced smartphone that will do this. By reasonably priced, I mean around $50. He doesn't need all the bells and whistles-remember the Titan?I think I can't buy a prepay phone, right? How does one go about buying a new post paid phone without going on contract with Verizon? I'd rather not buy used, which eliminates Ebay or Cowboom.

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It's been ages since I've bought a new phone and apparently Page Plus is a lot different than what its been in the past in terms of what phones will work. My husband really needs a new phone- HTC Titan LOL, and we need to stay on Verizon's towers. I see it will cost a minimum of $50 for a smartphone on Verizon, so I would like to stay with PP and get him the $29.95 plan with 4G. But I am super confused as to how to get a reasonably priced smartphone that will do this. By reasonably priced, I mean around $50. He doesn't need all the bells and whistles-remember the Titan?I think I can't buy a prepay phone, right? How does one go about buying a new post paid phone without going on contract with Verizon? I'd rather not buy used, which eliminates Ebay or Cowboom.
A Verizon Prepaid phone has to be in service for 6 months or at least activated 6 months prior to it going on Page Plus. Verizon won't release the IMEI until it's been activated at least 6 months to a year. Some say 6 months and others say 1 year. I have one that should become eligible the beginning of Dec if it's 6 months so I will know more then when I try to activate it on Page Plus. It's only 3G.
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Thanks for the info. So any prepaid Verizon phone will work on PP after 6 months? Maybe that's the way to go. Do you have to have it actually in service for 6 months? Can you pay for one month's service and then transfer it to PP in 6 months?
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By reasonably priced, I mean around $50. He doesn't need all the bells and whistles-remember the Titan?I think I can't buy a prepay phone, right? How does one go about buying a new post paid phone without going on contract with Verizon? I'd rather not buy used, which eliminates Ebay or Cowboom.
I'd suggest you limit your selection of android phones to models that are slated to get the Marshmallow (android version 6). I realize that might seem like overkill, but it will improve the longevity of the phone. At a minimum limit your search to phones that are currently running lollipop 5.1 or newer.

There have been some MAJOR vulnerabilities discovered in older versions of android (found on >90% of android phones currently) and most phones will never be updated / patched, especially most of the cheaper phones. Most of the low cost prepaid smart phones some major limitations that really reduce the usefulness of the phone.

If the phone isn't used much, a tracfone plan (smartphones gets TMFL and every "minute" counts as 1 min, 1 sms, and 1mb data) could be cheaper than page plus. Tracfone's subsidized phones are all pretty awful, but they might get some better options by Q1 next year.

Mid-range / older model phones that would be a good choice, a couple of these models may not have a cdma version:
Nexus 6
Nexus 5
LG G3
Moto G 2015 (3rd gen)
Moto G 2014 (2nd gen)
Moto X 2014
Moto X Pure Edition 2015
Moto Droid Turbo
Moto E 2015
OnePlus 2
OnePlus X
Samsung Galaxy S5
iPhone 5s or newer

Swappa is a good place to buy an older used phone (that's been on vzw's network long enough mvno's can activate it). I understand reservations about buying used, but it's one of the better options to get on page plus with a phone that will actually receive some software updates.

Your $50 price point isn't going to happen for a phone worth using / owning. The reason you pay more / mo with other carriers is that they subsidize the device.
A listing like one of these on swappa would be a decent choice:
https://swappa.com/buy/moto-x-2014-verizon
https://swappa.com/listing/PTT201/view
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I'd suggest you limit your selection of android phones to models that are slated to get the Marshmallow (android version 6). I realize that might seem like overkill, but it will improve the longevity of the phone. At a minimum limit your search to phones that are currently running lollipop 5.1 or newer.

There have been some MAJOR vulnerabilities discovered in older versions of android (found on >90% of android phones currently) and most phones will never be updated / patched, especially most of the cheaper phones. Most of the low cost prepaid smart phones some major limitations that really reduce the usefulness of the phone.

If the phone isn't used much, a tracfone plan (smartphones gets TMFL and every "minute" counts as 1 min, 1 sms, and 1mb data) could be cheaper than page plus. Tracfone's subsidized phones are all pretty awful, but they might get some better options by Q1 next year.

Mid-range / older model phones that would be a good choice, a couple of these models may not have a cdma version:
Nexus 6
Nexus 5
LG G3
Moto G 2015 (3rd gen)
Moto G 2014 (2nd gen)
Moto X 2014
Moto X Pure Edition 2015
Moto Droid Turbo
Moto E 2015
OnePlus 2
OnePlus X
Samsung Galaxy S5
iPhone 5s or newer

Swappa is a good place to buy an older used phone (that's been on vzw's network long enough mvno's can activate it). I understand reservations about buying used, but it's one of the better options to get on page plus with a phone that will actually receive some software updates.

Your $50 price point isn't going to happen for a phone worth using / owning. The reason you pay more / mo with other carriers is that they subsidize the device.
A listing like one of these on swappa would be a decent choice:
https://swappa.com/buy/moto-x-2014-verizon
https://swappa.com/listing/PTT201/view

So I bought this Moto E that you suggested off of swappa. Question- the seller says it should be eligible for unlock in two months. Do I need to activate it on Verizon's prepay network for two months prior to transferring it to Page Plus, or can I just wait two months and then transfer? thanks!
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So I bought this Moto E that you suggested off of swappa. Question- the seller says it should be eligible for unlock in two months. Do I need to activate it on Verizon's prepay network for two months prior to transferring it to Page Plus, or can I just wait two months and then transfer? thanks!
Since I last posted in this thread I've been doing a bit more reading on howard forums and similar sites on issues related to this. I've got a few relatives who are ready to upgrade to smartphones and use prepaid carriers.

The information you can find varies a bit, but there are quite a few people reporting success activating vzw prepaid LTE phones and att go phones on tracfone or page plus (vzw only). Even brand new LTE phones that haven't been used at all, provided the att/vzw sim card is removed before the device is turned on. There's always a chance vzw/att could tighten the reins in the future and kick devices off their network. It sounds like pageplus is only allowing LTE phones on its monthly plans.

I'd just try to activate it on PagePlus now and see if it works, you will need to put a pageplus sim card in the phone. If it doesn't try just waiting a month. According to people on HoFo, VZW sims from tracfone and net10 may work on page plus. StraightTalk sims seem a little more likely to be a problem.

EDIT: you also need a PagePlus Network Access Code (NAC)
It looks like there's going to be a black Friday deal on the VZW prepaid Moto E
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Since I last posted in this thread I've been doing a bit more reading on howard forums and similar sites on issues related to this. I've got a few relatives who are ready to upgrade to smartphones and use prepaid carriers.

The information you can find varies a bit, but there are quite a few people reporting success activating vzw prepaid LTE phones and att go phones on tracfone or page plus (vzw only). Even brand new LTE phones that haven't been used at all, provided the att/vzw sim card is removed before the device is turned on. There's always a chance vzw/att could tighten the reins in the future and kick devices off their network. It sounds like pageplus is only allowing LTE phones on its monthly plans.

I'd just try to activate it on PagePlus now and see if it works, you will need to put a pageplus sim card in the phone. If it doesn't try just waiting a month. According to people on HoFo, VZW sims from tracfone and net10 may work on page plus. StraightTalk sims seem a little more likely to be a problem.

EDIT: you also need a PagePlus Network Access Code (NAC)
It looks like there's going to be a black Friday deal on the VZW prepaid Moto E

I'll order the PagePlus sim today. What's a NAC and how do I get one? Thanks.
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I'll order the PagePlus sim today. What's a NAC and how do I get one? Thanks.
A Network Access Code is a code you have to enter into the phone to activate it. A little more reading, and it looks like 4G LTE devices don't need a NAC.

Make sure you order the right size sim card, which for the Moto E is a micro sim iirc.
https://www.pagepluscellular.com/...-sim-card/
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A Network Access Code is a code you have to enter into the phone to activate it. A little more reading, and it looks like 4G LTE devices don't need a NAC.

Make sure you order the right size sim card, which for the Moto E is a micro sim iirc.
https://www.pagepluscellular.com/accessories/4g-lte-dual-sim-card/

Thanks again!
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I see it will cost a minimum of $50 for a smartphone on Verizon, so I would like to stay with PP and get him the $29.95 plan with 4G.
Before you activate on page plus, you might want to consider using tracfone. If the phone isn't used much it is cheaper. On the flip side of the coin, the page plus plan is nice because it gives you enough data and airtime that you don't have to watch your usage that closely (assuming light data usage). I'm quoting myself from another thread below:

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If you want a smartphone or otherwise want to use your phone more, consider tracfone. Smartphones get triple minutes and each "minute" gives you 1 min on airtime, 1 sms, and 1mb of data. It's more than the $2.50/month you're currently paying, but not that much. $100 gets you 1 year of service 1200min/1200sms/1.2gb of data ($8.3/mo). 4 * $20 refills gets you a year of service and 720min/720sms/720mb of data ($6.75/mo). I think there will be some better subsidized low end smart phones for sale by tracfone by Q1 2016, but you're still better off buying a better used phone.

Tracfone uses a variety of carriers including verizon, at&t, t-mobile, and sprint. The easiest way to get the carrier you want is to BYOP, as that will either be VZW or AT&T. If you buy from their website, after you enter a zip code part of the URL will contain something like "market=GSM5SPRCO" which would be an area tracfone thinks is serviced by t-mobile (GSM5), sprint (SPR), and Verizon (CO); AT&T shows as GSM4. You may have to try different zip codes until you get what you want. The letter "G" after a phone model generally denotes GSM (att/tmo), the letter "C" denotes CDMA (vzw/sprint). If there's no letter it's more likely GSM, but you can look up the phone on gsm arena or phone scoop. If you aren't porting a phone number, the zip code will also determine your area code / phone number.
With tracfone $200/yr gets you 4500min/4500sms/4.5gb data

You'd need to verify the "market" for your zip code includes "CO" (vzw).
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I'd suggest you limit your selection of android phones to models that are slated to get the Marshmallow (android version 6). I realize that might seem like overkill, but it will improve the longevity of the phone. At a minimum limit your search to phones that are currently running lollipop 5.1 or newer.

There have been some MAJOR vulnerabilities discovered in older versions of android (found on >90% of android phones currently) and most phones will never be updated / patched, especially most of the cheaper phones. Most of the low cost prepaid smart phones some major limitations that really reduce the usefulness of the phone.

If the phone isn't used much, a tracfone plan (smartphones gets TMFL and every "minute" counts as 1 min, 1 sms, and 1mb data) could be cheaper than page plus. Tracfone's subsidized phones are all pretty awful, but they might get some better options by Q1 next year.

Mid-range / older model phones that would be a good choice, a couple of these models may not have a cdma version:
Nexus 6
Nexus 5
LG G3
Moto G 2015 (3rd gen)
Moto G 2014 (2nd gen)
Moto X 2014
Moto X Pure Edition 2015
Moto Droid Turbo
Moto E 2015
OnePlus 2
OnePlus X
Samsung Galaxy S5
iPhone 5s or newer

Swappa is a good place to buy an older used phone (that's been on vzw's network long enough mvno's can activate it). I understand reservations about buying used, but it's one of the better options to get on page plus with a phone that will actually receive some software updates.

Your $50 price point isn't going to happen for a phone worth using / owning. The reason you pay more / mo with other carriers is that they subsidize the device.
A listing like one of these on swappa would be a decent choice:
https://swappa.com/buy/moto-x-2014-verizon
https://swappa.com/listing/PTT201/view

Thanks again for your help. The Moto E I received off of Swappa activted fine and works great. My husband has 4GLTE and the phone is a great update from his Trophy!
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