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Help on finding a future proof motherboard?

Nguyensane 364 36 November 3, 2015 at 04:37 PM
Hello, I am looking to buy a new motherboard, but am unsure of which one to purchase as there are many options and varying prices. I have recently bought an i7-4990K, which is LGA 1150, and my current components are a 770GTX, and DDR3 ram. I am looking for something that would be "future proof" for maybe around 5 years in case I want to upgrade. Could anyone recommend me a decent one that wouldn't be overkill for my setup?

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Things you need to look out for are

1) M.2
This is a new storage platform utilizing PCI-E x4 technology. It will load faster than SATA3
2) USB 3.1
If you can find one with USB 3.1 Type-C, that would be even better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...-_-Product
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you are already behind...skylake is out...
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processor sockets / physical dimensions change often enough that there's no such thing as future proof. Better off buying something a bit less expensive more frequently.
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you are already behind...skylake is out...
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OP, the newest Intel chips (the Skylake chips) use the LGA1151 socket, rather than the LGA1150 of your current chip. If you can, you might consider returning the 4990k to get a Skylake chip and mobo, as that would be "more future-proof". However, a 4990k should perform very well for 5 years, with you maybe only needing a GPU upgrade 2.5 or 3 years in. So, you could stick with what you have, and get a mobo that has the connectors (mostly USB and SATA) you need. You could look for M.2 and USB-C/3.1, but that will likely add to the price, and your use of those depends on how quickly you adopt new tech (for USB-C/3.1) and how much of a power user you are (for M.2).

In any case, I'd stick with Gigabyte or Asus. Price will be a bit higher than other brands, but so will the quality.
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processor sockets / physical dimensions change often enough that there's no such thing as future proof. Better off buying something a bit less expensive more frequently.
Iagree
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Quote from xxtanisxx View Post :
Things you need to look out for are

1) M.2
This is a new storage platform utilizing PCI-E x4 technology. It will load faster than SATA3
2) USB 3.1
If you can find one with USB 3.1 Type-C, that would be even better

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...-_-Product
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Iagree

OP, the newest Intel chips (the Skylake chips) use the LGA1151 socket, rather than the LGA1150 of your current chip. If you can, you might consider returning the 4990k to get a Skylake chip and mobo, as that would be "more future-proof". However, a 4990k should perform very well for 5 years, with you maybe only needing a GPU upgrade 2.5 or 3 years in. So, you could stick with what you have, and get a mobo that has the connectors (mostly USB and SATA) you need. You could look for M.2 and USB-C/3.1, but that will likely add to the price, and your use of those depends on how quickly you adopt new tech (for USB-C/3.1) and how much of a power user you are (for M.2).

In any case, I'd stick with Gigabyte or Asus. Price will be a bit higher than other brands, but so will the quality.
Thanks. So noobie question here, I basically based my purchase off of this cpu benchmark chart here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html and the one i bought (4790K) clocks higher than the skylake 6700K. Is there something I am missing? I waived the return to save $7. In any case I got my chip for a fairly good deal, $267.
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Thanks. So noobie question here, I basically based my purchase off of this cpu benchmark chart here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html and the one i bought (4790K) clocks higher than the skylake 6700K. Is there something I am missing? I waived the return to save $7. In any case I got my chip for a fairly good deal, $267.
I think it's fairly safe to say >90% of people who think they might eventually upgrade their processor NEVER do. It just isn't practical / worth it most of the time.

If you were dead set on an eventual cpu upgrade, you'd want to start with a CPU that uses the same socket as the latest and greatest micro-architecture on the market so you have more desirable upgrade options in the future. There's nothing wrong with the 4790k, it just isn't the latest socket and runs hotter / uses more electricity than the the 6700k
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Quote from Nguyensane View Post :
Thanks. So noobie question here, I basically based my purchase off of this cpu benchmark chart here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html and the one i bought (4790K) clocks higher than the skylake 6700K. Is there something I am missing? I waived the return to save $7. In any case I got my chip for a fairly good deal, $267.
The scores are similar enough to be essentially equal. And while hte 4790k might bench slightly better than the 6700k, going with the 6700k (and the LGA1151 socket, in particular) allows you to easily upgrade the CPU in the future. You'd be assuming that whatever comes after Skylake will also use the LGA1151 socket and that it'll be markedly better/faster/cooler than what you have now. Not necessarily bad assumptions, but not set in stone, either.

I think the 4790k will be plenty good for 5 years, so stick with what you got. You didn't mention uses or budget, so we can't make a completely accurate recommendation, but unless you're doing extremely CPU-intensive stuff, you probably won't have a need to upgrade the CPU during the next 5 years.
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Quote from Nguyensane View Post :
Thanks. So noobie question here, I basically based my purchase off of this cpu benchmark chart here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html and the one i bought (4790K) clocks higher than the skylake 6700K. Is there something I am missing? I waived the return to save $7. In any case I got my chip for a fairly good deal, $267.
I agree with everything said here about keeping your current CPU, but figured I'd point out that passmark is just one benchmark. The improvements in skylake are primarily in things like media and encoding that benefit from increased memory bandwidth, and there are notable (but not amazing) improvements there: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/pr...60?vs=1543.

In terms of gaming performance there isn't much aside from running a bit cooler.
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Forget about future proofing a motherboard - there ain't no such thing. Just don't spend too much on your MB and you can get good Z97 boards for under $150.

If you get Skylake you have to ditch your DDR3 memory as well.
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Thanks. So noobie question here, I basically based my purchase off of this cpu benchmark chart here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html and the one i bought (4790K) clocks higher than the skylake 6700K. Is there something I am missing? I waived the return to save $7. In any case I got my chip for a fairly good deal, $267.
Ok...

Here is the thing.



1) Skylake will supposedly offer 10% more processing power which is not that much. If you were to replace to a better CPU, you will most likely have to replace the motherboard even if they use the same socket. A motherboard that supports LGA1150 4th generation CPU will NOT support 5th generation CPU. Now, obviously if the manufacturer upgraded the motherboard, that will be a different story. Manufacturer would be less inclined to do so in hope for the users to purchase their next generation motherboard.

2) The biggest thing Skylake offers are NOT processing power, but various features. They offer bootable M.2 and USB 3.1 (Type A and Type C). That is where your need to consider as "Future Proof". Now, the CPU you purchased can be equipped with X99 motherboard which also offers M.2 and USB 3.1. So, you dont actually need to change to Skylake

Just imagine all your latest gadget in a few years uses cable with USB 3.1 Type C for faster charge time and data transmission. Or newer SSD that is 2x faster than current speed utilizing M.2 (PCI-E x4) technology. This is where you will need to consider as future proof.

3) Another reason to switch to Skylake is DDR4. However, some X99 motherboards also supports DDR4.


I would just suggest to keep the processor and get a motherboard that has M.2 and USB 3.1. It will be more expensive, but it will be future proof.
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Forget about future proofing a motherboard - there ain't no such thing. Just don't spend too much on your MB and you can get good Z97 boards for under $150.

If you get Skylake you have to ditch your DDR3 memory as well.
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Ok...

Here is the thing.



1) Skylake will supposedly offer 10% more processing power which is not that much. If you were to replace to a better CPU, you will most likely have to replace the motherboard even if they use the same socket. A motherboard that supports LGA1150 4th generation CPU will NOT support 5th generation CPU. Now, obviously if the manufacturer upgraded the motherboard, that will be a different story. Manufacturer would be less inclined to do so in hope for the users to purchase their next generation motherboard.

2) The biggest thing Skylake offers are NOT processing power, but various features. They offer bootable M.2 and USB 3.1 (Type A and Type C). That is where your need to consider as "Future Proof". Now, the CPU you purchased can be equipped with X99 motherboard which also offers M.2 and USB 3.1. So, you dont actually need to change to Skylake

Just imagine all your latest gadget in a few years uses cable with USB 3.1 Type C for faster charge time and data transmission. Or newer SSD that is 2x faster than current speed utilizing M.2 (PCI-E x4) technology. This is where you will need to consider as future proof.

3) Another reason to switch to Skylake is DDR4. However, some X99 motherboards also supports DDR4.


I would just suggest to keep the processor and get a motherboard that has M.2 and USB 3.1. It will be more expensive, but it will be future proof.
Ok thanks, I will go with this motherboard you suggested:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...uct&cm_sp=

Last question, I have only a 600W power supply, My current setup is a sandybridge i5-2500K, and a 4GB 770GTX. Will I need to upgrade that as well once I put in the new mobo and CPU?
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Ok thanks, I will go with this motherboard you suggested:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...uct&cm_sp= [newegg.com]

Last question, I have only a 600W power supply, My current setup is a sandybridge i5-2500K, and a 4GB 770GTX. Will I need to upgrade that as well once I put in the new mobo and CPU?
Here is another one. This one got USB 3.1 Type-C which are reversible
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...-_-Product

The power requirement have actually gone down over the years with NVIDIA Graphic cards and Intel CPU. So you will be all set on that end. I'm pretty sure 600W will be sufficient to run your new computer.For example, A GTX 980 now only needs 500W which is much faster than a GTX 770.

The more likely choice to upgrade would be your Case (front panel ONLY). If your old case still have USB 2.0, then for convenience sack ONLY, you might be happier to get a case that supports USB 3.0 front panel. To save cost, you can always plug stuff in from the back directly to your motherboard. Not really a big deal.
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Ok thanks, I will go with this motherboard you suggested:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...uct&cm_sp=

Last question, I have only a 600W power supply, My current setup is a sandybridge i5-2500K, and a 4GB 770GTX. Will I need to upgrade that as well once I put in the new mobo and CPU?
What's the brand / model of the PSU, and how old is it? 600W should be plenty for your setup, but if the PSU is crap and only puts out 400W you might want to get a new one.
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