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Non-removable cell batteries?

ms2000 1,312 32 December 9, 2015 at 10:45 AM
Is it good to buy these cell phones with Non-removable batteries?

Historically, I was upgrading my desktop frequently and it has been years since I needed any upgraded (on a dual core). I am hoping cell phone would fall in that category - means I will have to change the battery some day - Non-removable battery would make it expensive correct?

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They're all going in that direction. If it's that important to you then you can still find phones with removable batteries but your selection is diminishing every year. The LG G4 is a pretty solid option and you can still buy last years Note 4 as well but Samsung is officially done with them and the new Note 5 and S6 batteries are not removable.
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Samsung S5 is removable with the SD card slot.
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It depends on the phone actually. Check out the iFixit reparability score for the phone to see how hard replacing the battery yourself really is. For example it's really easy to replace the battery in the Nexus 5 even though it's supposedly not replaceable.
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It depends on the phone actually. Check out the iFixit reparability score for the phone to see how hard replacing the battery yourself really is. For example it's really easy to replace the battery in the Nexus 5 even though it's supposedly not replaceable.
True, i had a Droid that was not removable. All that it had was a screw and a sticker holding it in. Any idea how the S6 is?
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Unfortunately it's much harder to make a cellphone last the 6+ years you have on your desktop computer.

1) Most phones take a decent amount of wear and tear as they more around. Even with a case and taking good care of stuff it just takes the abuse of living in pockets and purses, exposed to the elements, moisture, accidental drops etc. Your desktop had a fairly easy life living inside, consistent temps, good airflow. etc.

2) Security updates - Windows is a long term OS. MS supports the major versions for 8-10 years with security updates that come out monthly and you can apply the day they come out. Mobile OS are not like that yet. Apple supports devices for about 4 years, and most android phones these days require Carrier approval of updates before they are pushed out. We are starting to see this trend changing a bit as manufactures commit to monthly security updates. This is still new but it should get a little better. It's becoming a bigger deal as more and more communication goes to the smart phone so having a secure device is pretty important.

3) The started life of most lithium batteries are around 1800 charges. This is a complete charge cycle. So if your phone was at 50% and you charged it to 100% you just used 1/2 a cycle. Batteries do keep getting better too slowly. Now as the consumer you can't do alot about the trend of sealed batteries. Like someone said some phones can still be replaced just not as easily. It might be hard to find those replacement batteries too as the market moves that way the market for replacement/3rd party. So I Think it's a concern but I think the only thing you can really do is choose a phone that still has a replacement battery available. Battery case might also work.

So I don't think it's realistic to expect a smart phone to last the 6+ years your desktop has. However I think getting it to last 3-4 years is fairly realistic. Now at the end of that time know that it's going to be pretty dated but probably work, and probably won't be getting updates any longer or secure. I would say buy the highest end phone you can now that meets your requirements to give it the best chance of being acceptable in speed etc several years down the road.


Oh and that S6 battery replacement can be found with a simple search https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Sams...ment/44648
I am somewhat experienced in this and wouldn't call that super easy for most people. While possible the chances of getting it back together with no ill effects I would say are not the best.
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Oh and that S6 battery replacement can be found with a simple search https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Sams...ment/44648
I am somewhat experienced in this and wouldn't call that super easy for most people. While possible the chances of getting it back together with no ill effects I would say are not the best.
Wow, step 3 involves a microwave, and it only gets better from there.
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Wow, step 3 involves a microwave, and it only gets better from there.
He takes a break to make some popcorn Big Grin
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