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Wireless rear speakers to turn 3.1 into 5.1? (possible?)

SDBuddy 5,303 878 December 22, 2015 at 09:15 PM
Hi,

I'd like to add wireless rear speakers to my room. I once tried a Rocketfish product years ago, and they sucked (read: didn't work, all static, no sound). Is this a true, technical possibility for great sound, and if so, what products would anyone recommend?

I've attached a pic of my living room setup.

Clearly, running cable wire out of my nook's built-in cabinetry, up the molding of the nook, across the fireplace mantle, down the corner, up and down the door frame, along the baseboard behind the couches, then up straight to mounted speakers... possible but a light pain, and certainly visible. It's a fall back option though.

Running across the ceiling -- not possible, because the joists work against me, I'd have to tear up drywall and drill through multiple joists to get to the back of the room. If only they would be parallel and not perpendicular.

Thanks!

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Nevermind, I found the Amphony 1540 that operates on the 5.8Ghz range and shouldn't interfere with Routers nor be interfered with by microwaves (hopefully). I'll have to think if nearly $100 is worth avoiding wires..
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Nevermind, I found the Amphony 1540 that operates on the 5.8Ghz range and shouldn't interfere with Routers nor be interfered with by microwaves (hopefully). I'll have to think if nearly $100 is worth avoiding wires..
It's not. Wireless speakers are a pain, and they often have more latency than your other three speakers. They need their own amplifier, and they need to be plugged into AC power.

I have a layout just like yours. So I bought some Wiremold: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...ge_o08_s00

Works perfectly.
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Running across the ceiling -- not possible, because the joists work against me, I'd have to tear up drywall and drill through multiple joists to get to the back of the room. If only they would be parallel and not perpendicular.
2 other options for concealing the wires:
1. which direction do the floor joists run or are you on a slab? Running through the floor joists is a possibility if they run the right direction
2. Go up. A few small holes in the drywall would be required, but you could go up a floor and then go across in the attic.
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In my general experience, wireless speakers suck and simply are not worth the trouble. And remember they need to be powered, so you still need an electrical outlet nearby which is a problem if you want the rears mounted up high on a wall or in the ceiling.

This problem is not uncommon in that it is often difficult to run wires to the rear in a room. The proper way to do it is to fish the wires through the wall and run them under the floor (easier if you have a basement below) or above the ceiling (attic above if applicable) and then through the back walls to where they need to go. That is not easy to do and fishing wires through walls can be a real pita. Still, if you are serious about it, then it is better to spend the money on a professional to have them fish the wires for you then to try to futz with hiding wires in molding or waste money on crummy sounding wireless speakers. You can get a quote from an electrician or some professional sound system installer and see what they charge to run 2 wires for your setup. Most likely you are looking at $225+ depending on the setup but that really is still better than the alternatives imo. My 2 cents.
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It's not. Wireless speakers are a pain, and they often have more latency than your other three speakers. They need their own amplifier, and they need to be plugged into AC power.

I have a layout just like yours. So I bought some Wiremold: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/...ge_o08_s00

Works perfectly.
Thanks! Smilie I'm ruling out the wiremold solution. I've used that against the wall, within a nook, to hide wires with a white mold running up the center back wall. I've obviously also punched holes and run up/down between wall studs. But across a floor, not so excited about that. Or along the baseboards, I'll just get white flat speaker wire and let it blend in with the shapes and inlets of the baseboard.

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2 other options for concealing the wires:
1. which direction do the floor joists run or are you on a slab? Running through the floor joists is a possibility if they run the right direction
2. Go up. A few small holes in the drywall would be required, but you could go up a floor and then go across in the attic.
I'm on a slab, and also have tile (no carpet). I have two floors, so I don't have the luxury of popping the wires into the attic and going across unfortunately. I'm sorry I'm dismissing ideas left and right here. laugh out loud I should have anticipated those suggestions.
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In my general experience, wireless speakers suck and simply are not worth the trouble.
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This problem is not uncommon in that it is often difficult to run wires to the rear in a room. The proper way to do it is to...
You can get a quote from an electrician or some professional sound system installer and see what they charge to run 2 wires for your setup. Most likely you are looking at $225+ depending on the setup but that really is still better than the alternatives imo. My 2 cents.
Similar answer to the ones I gave to the others... first thank you. And yeah, I'm happy with fishing wires, but not via drilling out tile and slab. And going through 8-10 ceiling joists -- they have to carve a section of ceiling drywall in front of each joist in order to drill through each, then we have to repair each drywall section... it gets to be a lot more than $225. I can't remember the quote, but a neighbor / hey-buddy of mine in the past offered me a discounted rate from his small business and it was still crazy.
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Similar answer to the ones I gave to the others... first thank you. And yeah, I'm happy with fishing wires, but not via drilling out tile and slab. And going through 8-10 ceiling joists -- they have to carve a section of ceiling drywall in front of each joist in order to drill through each, then we have to repair each drywall section... it gets to be a lot more than $225. I can't remember the quote, but a neighbor / hey-buddy of mine in the past offered me a discounted rate from his small business and it was still crazy.

Ouch. At that point, I would just put the two rear speakers in the front as far to the side as possible and just live with it that way. Not ideal, but still probably better than wireless speakers imo. That or just go with a 2.1 setup. There comes a point when the costs outweigh the gains. The added benefit of 5.1 with the rears is not usually worth spending a huge sum on or in doing major renovation work to run some wires.
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Or along the baseboards, I'll just get white flat speaker wire and let it blend in with the shapes and inlets of the baseboard.

I'm on a slab, and also have tile (no carpet). I have two floors, so I don't have the luxury of popping the wires into the attic and going across unfortunately. I'm sorry I'm dismissing ideas left and right here. laugh out loud I should have anticipated those suggestions.
There are actually some very thin flat speaker wires that are peel and stick and then you paint over them. They aren't ideal but are an option.

Regarding going up to the attic, IF walls on the first and second floor are aligned, what I was saying is you could go up 2 stories to get to the attic. You would need to cut two holes the size of a 1 gang outlet plate. You could either patch them or put a blank wall plate on the holes. If you have much fires stopping in the walls (horizontal stud pieces) it's more difficult. Depending on how things line up between floors, you could even end up inside a closet or similar space where you don't mind the hole on the second floor.

Getting an estimate from an electrician is a good idea, they will be much more adept at running cables than most contractors and handymen. Don't be afraid of a couple small drywall patches.
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