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Time blocking on router? Is there an easier way?

stacyalisa 340 381 December 29, 2015 at 10:21 AM
I'm having trouble with my teens staying up all night online and on video games and I would like to set our router or internet connection to automatically disable internet at around midnight and come back up at 7 am. I know just pulling the power cord would be the simple way and I have done that but I go to bed early because I have to get up early and I don't want to cut them off that early, especially while school is out for Christmas break. Anyway, I have the TP-LINK TL-WR841N and it does have some parental controls but they are complicated and it looks like to me I will have to enter the MAC address of every device I want to block individually. I have 3 kids and that's a lot of phones/games/pc's etc. Can anyone suggest a way to get this done please?

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gargoyle firmware supports this (along with some other very nice features)

Here's a screenshot of the specific settings
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just get a TIMER for the power cord
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just get a TIMER for the power cord
Definitely the easiest to accomplish however with Teens I would be concerned they would say "hey let's go reboot it" find the timer and then the gig is up.

Quote from vivahate View Post :
gargoyle firmware supports this (along with some other very nice features)

Here's a screenshot of the specific settings
Probably a better option assuming the router is compatible. Seeing that it's a $20 router leeds me to think 3rd party firmware is probably the only way this will happen. OP could just turn QOS on and slow the connection to the gaming systems way down via mac address.
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Definitely the easiest to accomplish however with Teens I would be concerned they would say "hey let's go reboot it" find the timer and then the gig is up.


Probably a better option assuming the router is compatible. Seeing that it's a $20 router leeds me to think 3rd party firmware is probably the only way this will happen. OP could just turn QOS on and slow the connection to the gaming systems way down via mac address.

Yep. I wish I could say that I have teens that could be trusted to go to bed by midnight like they're told but I don't. A timer would be found out by night one.


I am definitely going to try the Gargoyle option. It will have to be tomorrow because of time but I am going to figure out how to install it and get it going.
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Probably a better option assuming the router is compatible. Seeing that it's a $20 router leeds me to think 3rd party firmware is probably the only way this will happen. OP could just turn QOS on and slow the connection to the gaming systems way down via mac address.
I ran Gargoyle 1.7.x on a TL-WR741ND with no issues but I'm now using 1.9.0 on a TL-WDR3600. The 841 is listed but the OP definitely needs to verify the version number on the router though. On the 741, the later versions had different hardware inside

My favourite feature of gargoyle is the bandwidth distribution charts. You can easily see which IP is using most data and throttle accordingly (if necessary) - also useful for the Xfinity data caps.
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On the bottom of the router is says TL-WR841N Ver 9.0. I purchased it on Amazon on July 9, 2014. http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-...=TL-WR841N Works well. I'm definitely going to have to do some reading. Good thing is if I mess it up somehow it will only cost $20 bucks to replace.
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On the bottom of the router is says TL-WR841N Ver 9.0. I purchased it on Amazon on July 9, 2014. http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-...=TL-WR841N Works well. I'm definitely going to have to do some reading. Good thing is if I mess it up somehow it will only cost $20 bucks to replace.
There is a hard reset button on your router. Shouldn't worry about breaking it

You might also think about getting an AC router or at least N900. If you are paying for more than 10mbps any wireless connection will not be able to deliver that, especially with multiple devices connected, like giving cable company free money.

I have three people in my home and 25/25 Mbps is enough for me, it should be enough for any typical household, anything higher is usually a waste and isn't commonly utilized. Americans like bigger numbers 😹

5-10 Mbps is actually sufficient for most households.
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On the bottom of the router is says TL-WR841N Ver 9.0. I purchased it on Amazon on July 9, 2014. http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-...=TL-WR841N Works well. I'm definitely going to have to do some reading. Good thing is if I mess it up somehow it will only cost $20 bucks to replace.
Looks to be good
gargoyle_1.9.0-ar71xx-generic-tl-wr841n-v9-squashfs-factory.bin 83dd78b92c65d720067d1688054dee9
gargoyle_1.9.0-ar71xx-generic-tl-wr841n-v9-squashfs-sysupgrade.bin fddb0c7d2dc11b3ae42e0bb48b53c2cd

The 'factory' one is to upgrade from the stock firmware and the sysupgrade one is to upgrade from an older version of gargoyle (or any openwrt) - so you'd initially want the 'factory' link and then when 1.9.1 comes out use the sysupgrade one (if you do, indeed, want to upgrade)

A few tips to make your life easier:
1) Do get an md5sum check program and verify the checksum matches when after you've downloaded the image
2) Rename it to something shorter (190.bin for example) - there was a problem with the 741 where if the filename was too long it would do nothing
3) Be patient - but remember that your 'upgrade' page might not refresh properly (it might stick at the 'upgrading firmware' spinner. If the lights on the router look right, open up a second browser tab/window and navigate directly to 192.168.1.1 - the default password is password
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you do realize the kids can just use the data from their phones right?
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you do realize the kids can just use the data from their phones right?
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video games... right Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)
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Router isn't a bad option, but a neighbor could have open wifi or an xfinity hotspot or a friend of your kids could give them their network key. Phones can be harder to control, blocking wifi internet access will cause problems with software updates that prefer wifi and to download while the phone is charging. Computers also like to check for software updates at night, you might need to allow certain websites. Granting permission for extended internet when they've procrastinated on their homework could get tiresome. Simply blocking certain things like domains/IPs the games require or enabling more restrictive content filtering on a schedule could make sense.

Other parental control software like Microsoft family safety is always an option.
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you do realize the kids can just use the data from their phones right?
Nah. I use Verizon family base and restrict their data to 1gb a month. They are under wifi most of the time.
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Router isn't a bad option, but a neighbor could have open wifi or an xfinity hotspot or a friend of your kids could give them their network key. Phones can be harder to control, blocking wifi internet access will cause problems with software updates that prefer wifi and to download while the phone is charging. Computers also like to check for software updates at night, you might need to allow certain websites. Granting permission for extended internet when they've procrastinated on their homework could get tiresome. Simply blocking certain things like domains/IPs the games require or enabling more restrictive content filtering on a schedule could make sense.

Other parental control software like Microsoft family safety is always an option.
All this is true, my suggestion was just use QOS and slow down the gaming devices tremendously during the time they are not to be used. Still not fool proof as the kids could get a 50 or 100ft cat5 and just plugin to the modem but probably the best that OP can do if its a big issue long term.
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use the parental controls in the router. most routers will show you a list of devices including the Mac address which you can just copy and paste. it's a one time setup per device so it shouldn't take that long. plus if you need the access, you won't be limited.

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