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kmalone32 306 903 January 18, 2016 at 03:10 PM
Is this a good deal for around $1070? I do a lot of multitasking but do not game on my PC.

System ID: FXB4Z6EZ
XPS 8900
Scratch & Dent - SD
System Price: $1,539.00
XPS 8900
Processor Processor: Intel Core 6th Generation i7-6700K Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.2 GHz)
Operating System Windows 10 Pro
Hard Disk Drive 2 TB 3.5-Inch 7200 RPM Hard Drive
256 GB Mobility Solid State Drive
Memory 24GB Dual Channel DDR4 2133MHz (8GBx2 + 4GBx2)
Media Bay 8X Blu-Ray BD Combo (Blu-ray ROM + DVD+/- RW)
Video NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB DDR5
System Color Black
Base Dell Outlet XPS 8900
Software Upgrade 64 BIT
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Windows 10 Pro
Office Software Office 365 - 1 Month Trial (Internet access required to install & activate)
Network Interface Card DW 1560 + BT4.0 [802.11ac + Bluetooth 4.0, Dual Band 2.4&5 GHz, 2x2]
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Hardware Upgrade 120V Power Cord
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Quote from kmalone32 View Post :
Is this a good deal for around $1070? I do a lot of multitasking but do not game on my PC.
Personally I try to avoid the scratch and dent deals.
I think it's overkill for you.

With coupon $524
Processor: Intel Core 6th Generation i7-6700 Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.0 GHz)
Windows 10 Home 64bit English
1 TB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
8GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2133MHz
16X DVD + RW Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2GB DDR3
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Dell Outlet XPS 8900

$762 AC
Processor: Intel Core 6th Generation i7-6700K Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.2 GHz)
Windows 10 Pro
2TB 3.5 inch SATA 7.2k RPM HDD
32GB M.2 SSD Cache
16GB (2x8GB) 2133MHz DDR4 Non-ECC
16X DVD + RW Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745 4GB GDDR3
Black
Dell Outlet XPS 8900

$440 AC:
Processor: Intel Core 6th Generation i5-6400 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.3 GHz)
Windows 10 Home 64bit English
1 TB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
8GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2133MHz
16X DVD + RW Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2GB DDR3
Black
Dell Outlet XPS 8900


16 GB of ram is still overkill. You're better off upgrading to an SSD yourself and adding more RAM yourself if you want. Even the higher end video cards dell sells are somewhat lackluster and I doubt you even need one, the integrated graphics would probably be fine for you. The processor is more important that most of the other specs, but I don't think you need a 'K' processor. If windows pro vs. home matters look for a machine with pro.
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Thanks for the tips! Isn't scratch and dent better than refurbished?

I agree that the video card is more than what I need, but the option I posted came with a 256GB SSD. I don't game on my desktop, but I do a lot of multitasking with work.

I think I'm good with Windows Home. What is going to be the difference between getting 8GB and 16GB of ram? I'm only using around 300GB of my current hard drive, so I think a 1TB hard drive should be fine and 2TB would be overkill.


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Personally I try to avoid the scratch and dent deals.
I think it's overkill for you.

With coupon $524
Processor: Intel Core 6th Generation i7-6700 Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.0 GHz)
Windows 10 Home 64bit English
1 TB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
8GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2133MHz
16X DVD + RW Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2GB DDR3
Black
Dell Outlet XPS 8900

$762 AC
Processor: Intel Core 6th Generation i7-6700K Processor (8M Cache, up to 4.2 GHz)
Windows 10 Pro
2TB 3.5 inch SATA 7.2k RPM HDD
32GB M.2 SSD Cache
16GB (2x8GB) 2133MHz DDR4 Non-ECC
16X DVD + RW Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745 4GB GDDR3
Black
Dell Outlet XPS 8900

$440 AC:
Processor: Intel Core 6th Generation i5-6400 Processor (6M Cache, up to 3.3 GHz)
Windows 10 Home 64bit English
1 TB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
8GB Dual Channel DDR4 at 2133MHz
16X DVD + RW Drive
NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2GB DDR3
Black
Dell Outlet XPS 8900


16 GB of ram is still overkill. You're better off upgrading to an SSD yourself and adding more RAM yourself if you want. Even the higher end video cards dell sells are somewhat lackluster and I doubt you even need one, the integrated graphics would probably be fine for you. The processor is more important that most of the other specs, but I don't think you need a 'K' processor. If windows pro vs. home matters look for a machine with pro.
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Last edited by kmalone32 January 18, 2016 at 04:01 PM
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256 gb ssd runs around 55-80$ now a days. 500gb upgrade goes for about $90-130$. The lower end of that spectrum is rare but averages can be around $65 and $120 or so.
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Quote from kmalone32 View Post :
Thanks for the tips! Isn't scratch and dent better than refurbished?

I agree that the video card is more than what I need, but the option I posted came with a 256GB SSD. I don't game on my desktop, but I do a lot of multitasking with work.

I think I'm good with Windows Home. What is going to be the difference between getting 8GB and 16GB of ram? I'm only using around 300GB of my current hard drive, so I think a 1TB hard drive should be fine and 2TB would be overkill.
No, scratch and dent is a sub category of refurbished that may have physical damage / blemishes.
http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/2..._condition

An extra 1tb, 256gb ssd, and 16 gb ram aren't worth $500+
Smaller hard drives can be more reliable.

What kind of work do you do / what kind of things do you have running at the same time? I really don't think you'd benefit that much from more than 16gb of RAM. 8 is probably plenty. My advice is simple: spend less on the refurbished machine (but get a good processor) and find slick deals on components you want to upgrade like an ssd. This doesn't necessarily mean the cheapest machine with the processor you want is the best deal. Also make sure you maintain a full backup of the computer, failure rates on hard drives in refurbished machines may be above average.
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No, scratch and dent is a sub category of refurbished that may have physical damage / blemishes.
http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/2..._condition

An extra 1tb, 256gb ssd, and 16 gb ram aren't worth $500+
Smaller hard drives can be more reliable.

What kind of work do you do / what kind of things do you have running at the same time? I really don't think you'd benefit that much from more than 16gb of RAM. 8 is probably plenty. My advice is simple: spend less on the refurbished machine (but get a good processor) and find slick deals on components you want to upgrade like an ssd. Also make sure you maintain a full backup of the computer, failure rates on hard drives in refurbished machines may be above average.
Yup, though I have not had any issues with scratch and dent. Generally you are always better off getting the base unit with the processor you need and the standard hard drive (1 TB, 7200 rpm) and memory (8 GB). It is always cheaper to upgrade hard drives, memory and video boards yourself as Dell is not going to give you any real deal on those. Just go out and buy an SSD if you need\want one. 8 GBs of Ram will be fine for most unless you are into databases or some high end development\graphics work or want to run virtual machines and you can always go out and buy a couple of additional sticks on your own and drop them in. If you need better video, then switching out the board is easy enough.
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Generally you are always better off getting the base unit with the processor you need and the standard hard drive (1 TB, 7200 rpm) and memory (8 GB). It is always cheaper to upgrade hard drives, memory and video boards yourself as Dell is not going to give you any real deal on those.
Not only is it usually cheaper, you often end up with higher quality components if you go this route.

If you don't need the extra graphics horsepower, you're just paying more to consume extra electricity and air conditioning.
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In terms of my multitasking needs, I do a lot of scanning and image processing. I usually have a browser open at the same time, along with some spreadsheets, and maybe a video or podcast to keep me sane!

I'm good with a 1TB hard drive.

For the SSD, could I just buy something like this?:

http://slickdeals.net/f/8439039-samsung-850-pro-2-5-512gb-ssd-199-newegg-a-c?src=SiteSearch

Is it easy to install an SSD like that?



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No, scratch and dent is a sub category of refurbished that may have physical damage / blemishes.
http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/2..._condition

An extra 1tb, 256gb ssd, and 16 gb ram aren't worth $500+
Smaller hard drives can be more reliable.

What kind of work do you do / what kind of things do you have running at the same time? I really don't think you'd benefit that much from more than 16gb of RAM. 8 is probably plenty. My advice is simple: spend less on the refurbished machine (but get a good processor) and find slick deals on components you want to upgrade like an ssd. This doesn't necessarily mean the cheapest machine with the processor you want is the best deal. Also make sure you maintain a full backup of the computer, failure rates on hard drives in refurbished machines may be above average.
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In terms of my multitasking needs, I do a lot of scanning and image processing. I usually have a browser open at the same time, along with some spreadsheets, and maybe a video or podcast to keep me sane!

I'm good with a 1TB hard drive.

For the SSD, could I just buy something like this?:

http://slickdeals.net/f/8439039-samsung-850-pro-2-5-512gb-ssd-199-newegg-a-c?src=SiteSearch

Is it easy to install an SSD like that?
What programs? How many tabs?
I have 12gb of ram right now. I have about 35 tabs open in Chrome, playing music, and editing in Lightroom fine with a 2nd generation i7 processor and its works fine. Anything over 8gb is most likely overkill.

Original post 24gb of ram even for a gamer is excessive. If your editing 4k video or doing intensive 3d rendering maybe then.
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In terms of my multitasking needs, I do a lot of scanning and image processing. I usually have a browser open at the same time, along with some spreadsheets, and maybe a video or podcast to keep me sane!

I'm good with a 1TB hard drive.

For the SSD, could I just buy something like this?:

http://slickdeals.net/f/8439039-samsung-850-pro-2-5-512gb-ssd-199-newegg-a-c?src=SiteSearch

Is it easy to install an SSD like that?

The 850 EVO by Samsung is a fine SSD. Samsung EVO drives usually come with data migration software that makes it a snap to transfer your c: drive though I never tried it with crummy Windows 10. That said, I usually would recommend going with the 1TB drive if you really need an SSD in a high end system. There is no point in messing around with an 8900 but that is me as with a 1 TB secondary regular hard disk, 512 GBs should be fine in reality.

In all honesty though, in a system like the one you are looking at, an SSD is really not necessary imo unless you are doing a lot of disk intensive work. Yes it will improve performance, but short of doing some massive database transactions on a regular basis or editing HD video streams regularly, you likely would be just fine with the 7200 rpm disk..
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For the SSD, could I just buy something like this?:
http://slickdeals.net/f/8439039-samsung-850-pro-2-5-512gb-ssd-199-newegg-a-c?src=SiteSearch

Is it easy to install an SSD like that?
Smaller SSD's <250GB are usually a better deal. Just compute $/GB for past deals so you have a baseline. See: http://slickdeals.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=30&tagid=87951&tag=SSD
Pretty easy to install (lots of tutorials on youtube, watch more than one - I'm not going to take the time to vet any for you, sorry). You do have some choices about how to handle transferring your data to the SSD and getting the computer to boot off of it. The SSD cache option with a small SSD like the 32GB one that second computer came with isn't a bad option either.

The best SSD's are generally made by Samsung, Intel, and Crucial.

It wouldn't surprise me if this dell coupon expires in a few HOURS!
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The way you would use this PC makes it incredibly over powered for you. It is, I believe a Dell version of an Alienware PC. Yes I do know that Dell owns the Alienware franchise.
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Thanks for the advice, everyone. I'm definitely going to go with a cheaper version than I originally thought. I'll just decide between an 8GB or 16GB and then add an SSD down the line if I feel that I need it.

I'm hoping to get my order in ASAP but it seems that Dell never sent me a $250 gift card from my U3415W purchase last month so I have to take it up with their customer service tomorrow!
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I'm hoping to get my order in ASAP but it seems that Dell never sent me a $250 gift card from my U3415W purchase last month so I have to take it up with their customer service tomorrow!
Always check your spam folder. look at your invoice too.

I didn't see an expiration listed for the coupon, but I'm sure it doesn't last too long. If you miss this deal, their's likely to be another one within the next 60 days.
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Quote from kmalone32 View Post :
Thanks for the advice, everyone. I'm definitely going to go with a cheaper version than I originally thought. I'll just decide between an 8GB or 16GB and then add an SSD down the line if I feel that I need it.

I'm hoping to get my order in ASAP but it seems that Dell never sent me a $250 gift card from my U3415W purchase last month so I have to take it up with their customer service tomorrow!
I would definitely recommend an SSD (Minimum 250gb), it has a tremendous bang for your buck. I would go with 8gb and SSD vs 16gb all day long. Upgrade your ram if you have to later on. guessing you won't need to.
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