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ChpByr 803 92 January 21, 2016 at 05:28 PM More Amazon Deals
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Sorry for the messy post; to clarify, I have my own network upstairs that doesn't seem to penetrate into the basement. I had a friend loan me a wifi repeater/booster which I placed at the top of the stairs but the connection was less than favorable. Same friend also lent me a a trendnet indoor antenna with an extension cable, which I connected to the computer and chucked out the window, it actually works pretty well, lol.

I've started to read into CPE/outdoor AP devices which seem to be massive overkill for my needs, but it might be an interesting learning experience.

Friend will hopefully be lending me a power line adapter soon to let me test that out. For the moment, the indoor antenna at the window is working well enough.

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Ok guys, long story short, I'm trying to connect to a wifi signal from a basement which doesn't pick up any signals. I've never dabbled with antennas, so I thought I'd post here and hopefully someone with more experience will tell me if I'm on the right or wrong track.

I'm thinking of picking up an outdoor wifi antenna, and running the n-type/sma cable into the basement through the window. As far as I can tell, I can run this antenna cable straight into an appropriately equipped wlan card in a computer, but I'm also wondering if maybe I could also run it into a router set up as a repeater. I imagine the direct line into the computer would work, but I'm not sure about the router.

I'm currently considering this Trendnet Outdoor Antenna [amazon.com]. I've noticed some interesting directional antenna options, but I imagine this omnidirectional one would be less of a hasssle.

Any thoughts? I'd appreciate it.
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What router do you have?
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What router do you have?
I'd be purchasing a new one, so I'm open to suggestions on that too. I'm not actually sure a repeater would work, it's just my assumption atm. I imagine it would have to be a unit with 2x antennas, one of which would be replaced with the outdoor unit.
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Ok guys, long story short, I'm trying to connect to a wifi signal from a basement which doesn't pick up any signals. I've never dabbled with antennas, so I thought I'd post here and hopefully someone with more experience will tell me if I'm on the right or wrong track.

I'm thinking of picking up an outdoor wifi antenna, and running the n-type/sma cable into the basement through the window. As far as I can tell, I can run this antenna cable straight into an appropriately equipped wlan card in a computer, but I'm also wondering if maybe I could also run it into a router set up as a repeater. I imagine the direct line into the computer would work, but I'm not sure about the router.
Not much point in trying to use outdoor antennas. Directional wouldn't work well for you. If you're going to run cables just run ethernet! You can put a second router as a access point in a different location. Try different wifi channels and moving the router to different locations.

I think the main thing you need is just a better wireless router. Many routers these days use an array of more than 2 antennas.
Here are a few posiblities:
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Arc...INK+AC1900
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Wir...INK+AC1900

Here's a list of some better routers:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/to...outer/view
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Ok guys, long story short, I'm trying to connect to a wifi signal from a basement which doesn't pick up any signals.

I'm thinking of picking up an outdoor wifi antenna, and running the n-type/sma cable into the basement through the window. As far as I can tell, I can run this antenna cable straight into an appropriately equipped wlan card in a computer, but I'm also wondering if maybe I could also run it into a router set up as a repeater. I imagine the direct line into the computer would work, but I'm not sure about the router.

I'm currently considering this Trendnet Outdoor Antenna [amazon.com]. I've noticed some interesting directional antenna options, but I imagine this omnidirectional one would be less of a hasssle.

Any thoughts? I'd appreciate it.
From what I have read above [forgive me if I get something wrong, my grey matter is aging these days], you have access to a wireless signal outside the house but in your basement, not-so-much.

If you want to use a router and I must assume you do not already have one, I also suppose that Starbucks or your neighbor will give you access to the internet. Either way you will want to Bridge the other network into your own network. Your own Bridged network is much more convenient and secure.

To reduce confusion for a newbie to networking I would recommend the Cisco-Linksys WET54G Wireless-G Ethernet Bridge [amazon.com] or a similar product.

I would not recommend the TRENDnet 8dBi Outdoor Omni Directional Antenna TEW-AO08O for this purpose. You will be connecting more or less permanently to just one wireless signal and for that you should always go directional, I believe that a Yagi Antenna [amazon.com] would suit you better.

So your equipment will be. Your antenna, your network bridge, your wireless router, your computers wired or wireless.

You must determine your wireless signal strength before you do anything else & without the directional antenna to use for measuring this is going to be guess work. You need to learn what your decibel gain requirement is.

If you have an Android phone I would recommend Wifi Analyzer [google.com] for a windows device I personally prefer and recommend InSSIDer Home Edition [3.1.2.1] [techspot.com]
So, Whew. Now what? Maybe you can look at this old post.
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run an ethernet cable into the basement. running antenna cable will lead to HUGE signal losses.

get an outdoor rated access point, and mount that outside to pickup the wifi signal. poe would make it easy.
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...I would not recommend the TRENDnet 8dBi Outdoor Omni Directional Antenna TEW-AO08O for this purpose. You will be connecting more or less permanently to just one wireless signal and for that you should always go directional, I believe that a Yagi Antenna [amazon.com] would suit you better....

You must determine your wireless signal strength before you do anything else & without the directional antenna to use for measuring this is going to be guess work. You need to learn what your decibel gain requirement is.
Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it. I was looking at the omni directional antenna to keep things simple, but you make a good point about the directional. I tried out the android Wifi Analyzer and holding my S4 against the window edge outside gives me a reading of -44dbm. I'm just not sure what to do with that information, lol. I'll read into it. nod

On the ground floor there is currently a C7 Archer router, which I'm unlikely to move from its current position as everything outside the basement is nicely covered, but I guess can test the router from the basement and see how that goes. Assuming I don't move the router, running an ethernet cable would require a pretty long cable and amount of routing which is why the antenna came to mind. Assuming I just run the antenna into a desktop pc, I think I can get away with as little as 8 feet of cable.

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run an ethernet cable into the basement. running antenna cable will lead to HUGE signal losses. get an outdoor rated access point, and mount that outside to pickup the wifi signal. poe would make it easy.
So instead of mounting an antenna I would mount an outdoor access point configured to receive my wifi network and feed it into an ethernet cable? I'll look into this too, thanks.
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... which is why the antenna came to mind. Assuming I just run the antenna into a desktop pc, I think I can get away with as little as 8 feet of cable.
NO. You're going about this all wrong. The things you're imaging doing with antennas and cables will just cause endless headaches if you can even make them work. Alternate antenna configurations are MUCH more difficult / complicated on newer routers that use an array of more antennas.
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On the ground floor there is currently a C7 Archer router, which I'm unlikely to move from its current position as everything outside the basement is nicely covered, but I guess can test the router from the basement and see how that goes. Assuming I don't move the router, running an ethernet cable would require a pretty long cable and amount of routing
That's a decent router. Can I take this to mean the basement is unfinished?
How many stories is your house? Describe the location of the router.

Start with simple fixes, moving the router even just a foot or two, putting it as high as possible (attach to wall in current room), moving the antennas (orthogonal), changing the channel (choose 1, 6, or 11) or channel width (20MHz instead of 40MHz), isolating sources of interference, etc.

The wifi card in the device(s) in the basement is also very significant. It could simply by that the computer in the basement has a crap wifi card or antenna or doesn't support 802.11a (5GHz).


If you install ethernet cables in walls / permanently, generally you're using bulk un-terminated cable that you cut to whatever length you need and then punch down on a jack. You don't necessarily have to run it all the way to a computer in the basement. You can setup a second router as an access point to boost wifi in the basement. If you want to run a cable for something, ethernet is the only viable option and you can easily run ethernet up to 330'.
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Why not a powerline extender?
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So instead of mounting an antenna I would mount an outdoor access point configured to receive my wifi network and feed it into an ethernet cable? I'll look into this too, thanks.
yep. I don't know your budget, but one with power of ethernet would make it super easy. It would be powered via the ethernet cable. No need to run or find a power cable.
Something like this would work: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...6833664012
Mount that to the window or wall and point it toward your main router.
I'm not sure of your speed needs though, so you may want a faster one.
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Getting Outdoor Wifi Signal Indoor
Just so we can get everyone on the same page, which of the following are you trying to do:
  1. Connect devices inside your house to a wifi signal that originates outside your house (eg. at neighbor's house or local business).
  2. Improve wifi reception for a device in your basement (you have your own internet connection) and somehow you've come to believe outdoor antennas and access points are necessary (they aren't).

If #2 (which is how I interpreted it), please consider editing your OP and changing the thread title to something like "Improving wifi signal in my basement"
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2. Improve wifi reception for a device in your basement (you have your own internet connection) and somehow you've come to believe outdoor antennas and access points are necessary (they aren't).

If #2, please consider editing your OP and changing the thread title to something like "Improving wifi signal in my basement"
That's the way I read it.
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That's the way I read it.
Anyway. Yea if internet is already available upstairs the power-line adapter is probably the easiest and fastest answer.
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Where are you op, don't leave us hanging
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