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Ideas on how to remove these in-ceiling speakers

Dr. J 25,036 3,353 January 22, 2016 at 06:50 PM
Attached photo. I believe they are Bose brand (were here when we bought the house), about 8" in diameter.

They simply do not budge at all. Looking through the grille I can see some screws and etc on the inside so I thought I could try and pull the grille out but no dice as far as I can tell.

I have 2 of these each in the Kitchen and MBR bath. I want to remove the ones in the bath to refurb the grilles (a bit of rust) when I paint the room.

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Attached photo. I believe they are Bose brand (were here when we bought the house), about 8" in diameter.

They simply do not budge at all. Looking through the grille I can see some screws and etc on the inside so I thought I could try and pull the grille out but no dice as far as I can tell.

I have 2 of these each in the Kitchen and MBR bath. I want to remove the ones in the bath to refurb the grilles (a bit of rust) when I paint the room.
Here's a manual for a current Bose in-wall speaker: https://www.bose.com/content/dam/...sguide.pdf
Bose as always been big on branding their products, so the lack of a bose logo has me skeptical they made them.

In think on your speakers, either the metal grille is removable or the whole face frame with the grill comes off (most liekly it's just the grille). It's probably just pressure or magnetic fit (pull to remove). You might try something like a metal dental pick or small paper clip.

Here's a speaker monoprice sells with a magnetic grille: http://downloads.monoprice.com/fi...080129.pdf

You could try holding a really bright flashlight up to the grill, it might illuminate things enough to figure out what the trick is for your speakers.
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Here's a manual for a current Bose in-wall speaker: https://www.bose.com/content/dam/...sguide.pdf
Bose as always been big on branding their products, so the lack of a bose logo has me skeptical they made them.

In think on your speakers, either the metal grille is removable or the whole face frame with the grill comes off (most liekly it's just the grille). It's probably just pressure or magnetic fit (pull to remove). You might try something like a metal dental pick or small paper clip.

Here's a speaker monoprice sells with a magnetic grille: http://downloads.monoprice.com/fi...080129.pdf

You could try holding a really bright flashlight up to the grill, it might illuminate things enough to figure out what the trick is for your speakers.
I did find that before posting.... these are not magnetic. I tried pulling down on the grille with a "dental pick" (metal) and bent it.
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I did find that before posting.... these are not magnetic. I tried pulling down on the grille with a "dental pick" (metal) and bent it.
Try posing the picture at avsforum. Another option would be to find a local business that sells audio equipment and does installs and walk in with the picture and see if they have any advice.

A bent paper clip is probably better as you could have more surface area to distribute the force. I'm not sure what you should do. You might try a youtube search for something like: removing in-wall speaker grill/grille.
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Since you want to get rid of the use a drill bit with tape about a 1/4 down so you don't poke too far in then use some sidecutters or sheet metal shears to cut the grill off you will then be a blt to see how it should come off but first you might try rotating it left or right like a smoke detector.

like these

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-I1zx...0DSFX.html
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Since you want to get rid of the use a drill bit with tape about a 1/4 down so you don't poke too far in then use some sidecutters or sheet metal shears to cut the grill off you will then be a blt to see how it should come off but first you might try rotating it left or right like a smoke detector.

like these

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-I1zx...0DSFX.html
That particular speaker grille is also just a pressure fit: http://images.crutchfieldonline.c...30DSFX.PDF
OP wants to clean up and paint the grilles not destroy them. Trying a thin putty knife between the flange of the grill and drywall could be a good idea, but be careful I'm skeptical that part moves. Picture from crutchfield above is just grille on and off not grille by itself.

OP, I'd check manuals for a variety of different speakers for ideas.
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Since you want to get rid of the use a drill bit with tape about a 1/4 down so you don't poke too far in then use some sidecutters or sheet metal shears to cut the grill off you will then be a blt to see how it should come off but first you might try rotating it left or right like a smoke detector.

like these

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-I1zx...0DSFX.html

No I don't want them destroyed, just taken out. Over the past 10 years they have gotten a bit rusty/discolored. I can paint in place but it won't come out as good as if I could remove them altogether.
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it might be as simple as these and they are just painted on
http://www.reliablehardware.com/2...white.aspx
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Well I tried the paperclip idea and wound up impaling my thumb with the paper clip. so then I got my pick set from the garage and got the grille out. what a PITA. That revealed some screws but I'll have to see if those remove the entire unit or just the speaker.
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Well I tried the paperclip idea and wound up impaling my thumb with the paper clip. so then I got my pick set from the garage and got the grille out. what a PITA. That revealed some screws but I'll have to see if those remove the entire unit or just the speaker.
The paper clip was suggested in one of those manuals I linked to, sorry it didn't work so well. I'd probably leave the screws alone, I suspect they remove the entire unit. If the speakers are in an insulated ceiling, I'd definitely leave the screws alone. you can see why many speakers have moved to magnetic grilles.
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Those get painted over a lot and the grills are hard to budge. But the general method is to remove the grills they just press fit and then the screws loosen the speaker.
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I have installed speakers in my house that look just like yours. The grill as others have mentioned are removable, they are pressed into the speaker housing. I would use an awl and work around the grill gently prying until it releases. The screws work with a plastic ear that turns and then clamps the backside of the drywall. To remove you need to reverse the process, sometimes the stick and don't turn back into the speaker so you may have to work them back and forth (tighten, then loosen). When you get all the ear clamps retracted you can pull the whole speaker out and disconnect the wiring. Here is a picture of a speaker that will give you an idea of what the ears look like.



You can definitely paint the grills by removing them and spraying them or carefully brushing them.
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I also think that the screws would remove the speaker.
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Can't believe no one has suggested a look in the attic.
They may well be attached to the rafters FROM ABOVE the ceiling.
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Can't believe no one has suggested a look in the attic.
They may well be attached to the rafters FROM ABOVE the ceiling.

I have the same in my kitchen - so unless the house was built backwards - finishing the kitchen then putting subfloor on the 2nd floor - they have to have been installed after sheetrock.

as I said my attic has blown-in insulation, so there's no walking up there unless it's REALLY necessary.

I haven't attempted to take the speakers out because I'm not to that stage of the project yet. I have a business trip next week and since the project involves not using the bathroom for a couple weeks I don't want to stick DW without use of the bathroom for no reason while I'm gone.

I think I WILL need to take them out completely as there doesn't seem to be a good way to do a good job painting them without doing so. I'm not the type of person to half ass something, so I'd much rather take them out, do the prep work right, and paint, and have the job done for GOOD than to try and paint them in place to save time and then them winding up getting discolored again.
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