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Can I make the switch to iOS from Android? Looking for opinions *LONG*

cdogg44 92 23 January 31, 2016 at 10:46 AM
Long time Android user, specifically Samsung Note 2 & 3. Current phone is a two year old Note 3 and admittedly is working fine. However, it has begun to slow down, is no longer being updated, and has some annoying quirks like freezing or losing widget support which requires a restart to fix. I'm also on my 2nd battery (Anker) and the front facing camera/screen sensor has been replaced once (by me) and is on the fritz again. I expect better build quality from Apple. I am hard on a phone but the Note's have held up decent for me. I don't drop them or abuse them, but talk 2-3 hours per day along with 3+ hours of screen time for my job and need a phone that can make it through the day.

Reasons I'm looking to go to iOS with an iPhone:
-I'm the only Android user in my extended family. While this doesn't matter much, I can't FaceTime anyone or share a charger. My wife switched to an iPhone a year ago and now we have two chargers/cords/car chargers due to the difference in Lightning and microUSB. I also use OSX for my home desktop and laptop. However I don't feel that not having an iPhone has held me back any there.

-Something different. After 4 years on an OS that has basically stayed the same I'm looking for something fresh. Kind of ridiculous I know.

-Samsung bugs, glitches, freezes, etc. This obviously isn't bad enough for me to stop using my current phone, but it can get annoying. Additionally, everything out there has dropped support for removable batteries or microSD cards, so Samsung no longer has the edge they once held over an iPhone (in my opinion).

-Native apps. On my Note 3 I use Chrome, Textra, Dialer One, and a few other minor 3rd party apps to overcome the limitations of the native Samsung/Android apps. I expect iOS to deliver out of the box and avoid this hassle.

Reasons I'm hesitant to switch and am looking for input:
-T9 dialer support. This is the biggest reason I don't have an iPhone. I'm in construction and spend my day driving around and making tons of calls. I need to quickly find and dial a phone number out of a contact list of over 1000. It goes back to my Blackberry days, but being able to start typing a contact's name (or number) on the number pad and it quickly sort them out to the necessary contact is invaluable. Also many of my contacts have strange names that make this easier for me to keep track. For instance, I may have contacts named "Acme Brick", "Acme Brick Warehouse", "Acme Brick Driver John", "Acme Brick Sales Desk", "Acme Brick Guardshack"...you get the idea. T9 dialer support is crucial to me and why I use Dialer One on my Samsung (who's stock dialer is horrendous).

-Samsung Keyboard. I love that on my Note 3 the keyboard has a dedicated number row above the first row of letters. Such a time saver. Additionally, the fact that I can long press a letter to get a ? or $ makes too much sense for it not to be implemented on the iPhone (my opinion).

-Google Now. I don't fly much at all, but having Google Now sift through my Gmail and list my flight status, gate, and time the night before I go somewhere is amazing. Packages that are ordered show up as a card that I can quickly track instead of searching for an email and going from there. I fear things like this are some of the "little things" I'll miss switching to iOS. Also, being able to lay in bed and type "remind me at 730 am to call Sam" in the Google Search widget and it create a reminder has become very useful. I know Siri can do this, but from what I understand you have to say it and are not able to type it and I find that somewhat unbelievable.

-Replaceable battery & microSD. While this is getting harder to find, the only reason I still have a two year old Note 3 is because I have replaced the battery to be able to make it through the day. I do expect better battery life and build quality from Apple, though. I also value the microSD. When I take too many pictures and fill up a 32GB card, I just buy a 64GB and keep rolling. I don't have to worry about memory and I value that a lot.

-File & photo syncing. I use an app called SyncMe to sync my photos, SMS backup file, voice notes, and anything else I need to my desktop computer every night around 4 AM while my phone is charging. It's so simple and allows me to view photos from my phone in a normal file structure and be able to archive anything I need in case I lost my phone the next day. My desktop is a 5+ year old iMac (best investment ever) and I do NOT use iPhoto and much prefer folders for photo organization.

-SMS Backup. I use SMS Backup & Restore to create a backup file of my SMS messages daily and then sync that to my computer. In my business, 2/3 or more of my communication is over text messages and having a backup file to recall bids, prices, offers, etc. has saved me more than once. I consider some form of SMS backup a must have. I also use an app called SMS Backup + that syncs all of my texts to Gmail. While it is not 100%, it provides an easily searchable way to find something at a computer and a long term archive of texts

-The back button. I don't know how iPhone users get away without it, but the back button seems to make so much sense. Apple's sold like a billion iPhones, so maybe I'm the one missing the boat but it seems to make things so much easier.

-S Pen. I may not use it for a month and then use it 5 times in one day. Being able to take a picture, draw on it, and then send it out can be unbelievably helpful in my line of work. Other than very light note taking in Action Memo and writing on pictures I don't use it for anything else.

That's pretty much it. If you've made it this far, I'd appreciate any unbiased opinions based on my needs and wants. I very much appreciate your time.

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Note 5 hands down but if you are willing to let go the S pen, Go with S6(wait for S7 if you can) or the Moto X pure
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If you decide to stick with android, consider the Nexus 5X and 6P. Once you've used pure android it's hard to put up with the skins. Personally I'm pretty happy with android. The battery in the LG G4 is still easy to replace.
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Reasons I'm looking to go to iOS with an iPhone:
Let me preface this by saying I don't use iOS myself.
Apple isn't too keen on apps the replace the built in apps. I'm not sure if an equivalent exists on iOS (doubt it), I used to use the T9 quick search function on an old samsung flip phone all the time. As much as I like this function, I feel like it was more useful with physical buttons (it's one thing I miss about that phone). I might have to give dialer one a try. I mostly use the search box by typing the name (PITA and dangerous if driving) or use voice search.

Apple now supports third party keyboards

Some google now functionality exists on iOS in the google app. There are no widgets in iOS. You could open the reminders app and just create the reminder that way. You can also activate siri and then touch the box to type your input rather than say it but that's somewhat pointless.

You would want to choose a 64 or 128GB iPhone.

It might cause some organizational challenges, but you should be able to continue to backup your photos.

SMS backup is also possible

when it's needed there's usually a back icon in a particular app but the location varies

for infrequent use, annotating pics with your finger can work or even just a simple stylus. Skitch is on android and iOS.


Experiment with dw's phone, try third party keyboards, sms and photo backup apps, searching for contacts, etc. It's going to be easier for you to evaluate if iOS is for you than it is for most people.
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Last edited by jkee January 31, 2016 at 03:29 PM
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You won't get better build quality from Apple. If you drop your phone often, you will find yourself replacing your screen or your whole phone much more often that any other phone. I know this because I repair phone screens and 90% of my customers are Apple users. Apple recently switched to glueing their digitizer to the screen, but have not yet perfected it like Samsung has. This causes problems with the sturdiness of their screen. Also, Apple has been having trouble with their most recent speakers inside their phones. I'm not just trash-talking Apple and I personally do not have anything against them, but I only recommend ios for people who have never tried a different operating system. It's easy-to-use and just like Android, it's been pretty static for years. Have you considered a Google OS?
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Appreciate the replies.

I have looked at the Nexus 6P but am unsure if I'll notice a difference between it and the Note 3 I'm currently using. I have no experience with the Google dialer and if it supports T9, but I've tried Messages and went back to Textra. I've also had issues with Google Music not wanting to play songs off the SD card or phone memory, just stuff I've bought on Google Play.

Is a pure Google Android phone THAT much better?
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Appreciate the replies.

I have looked at the Nexus 6P but am unsure if I'll notice a difference between it and the Note 3 I'm currently using. I have no experience with the Google dialer and if it supports T9, but I've tried Messages and went back to Textra. I've also had issues with Google Music not wanting to play songs off the SD card or phone memory, just stuff I've bought on Google Play.

Is a pure Google Android phone THAT much better?
you may still have many of the same issues. While it would be great if everything just worked perfectly for everybody out of the box, it's nice to have the option to use a different app. That T9 functionality isn't going to be stock on android or iOS. I would only consider devices getting Android 6 / Marshmallow if you go android. On android m you ca 'adopt' your sd card, encrypting it and making it's space more accessible for apps.

For music, personally I prefer other music player apps to Google Music. In Play Music, if you swipe from the left edge to the right or touch the menu button, your music should be in My Library. You could also turn on the 'downloaded only' setting.
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Last edited by jkee January 31, 2016 at 11:52 AM
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Some thoughts, vaguely in the order you posted. I'm not going to attempt to figure out how to respond inline.

Facetime: Use Skype instead? [edit: not Whatsapp, video calls apparently haven't launched there yet]

Samsung Bugs: Yup. Don't expect them to get better on Marshmallow, or with pure Google versions. As a long time Nexus user, the grass is not greener over here. Google either doesn't want to or can't afford to do the sort of QA that Apple does, and it shows.

Native Apps: I'm not quite sure why you think being able to switch your browser is a hassle? You do it once, set a default, then you have a new browser. In Apple land, if you don't like their native app, you're options are not great.

Back Button: I've been using Android since the beginning, and I still don't reliably know what the back button is going to do when I press it. Sometimes it goes to the previous app, sometimes apps capture it and it navigates within an app, and sometimes apps capture it and it just does nothing. It's the sort of infuriating UX that Apple would never let onto their phones. In iOS apps than need a back button have a back button, which behaves as predictably as one would expect.
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Last edited by quotidian January 31, 2016 at 01:37 PM
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As a long-term user of both OS, I WOULD SAY THAT THE best THING YOU COULD DO. GRASP THE 6S / PLUS AND YOU LL NEVER NEED TO LOOK BACK IN YEARS.
ps: Keep your note 3 to taste Android sometimes ( don't forget to root and cyanogen mod it) and make a comparison yourself. You ll see how superior iOS is.
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You won't get better build quality from Apple. If you drop your phone often, you will find yourself replacing your screen or your whole phone much more often that any other phone. I know this because I repair phone screens and 90% of my customers are Apple users. Apple recently switched to glueing their digitizer to the screen, but have not yet perfected it like Samsung has. This causes problems with the sturdiness of their screen. Also, Apple has been having trouble with their most recent speakers inside their phones. I'm not just trash-talking Apple and I personally do not have anything against them, but I only recommend ios for people who have never tried a different operating system. It's easy-to-use and just like Android, it's been pretty static for years. Have you considered a Google OS?
could you pm me? have a few iPhone screen problems and need advice.
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I carry both. SN4 and an ip5 (personal/work respectively). I can't stand the ip5. It's a smaller screen - you can more or less get over this with the newer versions - the fact that you can't change simple stuff or disable the animations pisses me off. I want a snappy interface, not 1 second of animation every time I do something. Want more storage? tough shit. I also have numerous apps that either have no ios equivalent or it's shitty. If the SN4 was a dual SIM I'd leave the ip5 in the drawer. Lack of replaceable battery doesn't bother me much but it's a plus for the android phones (most of them at least).
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As a long-term user of both OS, I WOULD SAY THAT THE best THING YOU COULD DO. GRASP THE 6S / PLUS AND YOU LL NEVER NEED TO LOOK BACK IN YEARS.
ps: Keep your note 3 to taste Android sometimes ( don't forget to root and cyanogen mod it) and make a comparison yourself. You ll see how superior iOS is.
Do you care to expand on this? I had some pretty specific details I was looking for and have yet to find iOS equivalents for some. You seem passionate about iOS over Android, but I'm curious as to why it would be a better fit for MY needs.

Thanks
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Some thoughts, vaguely in the order you posted. I'm not going to attempt to figure out how to respond inline.
To respond in-line (usually unnecessary) just press the quote button to break up what they said and swap which tag has the /
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Samsung Bugs: Yup. Don't expect them to get better on Marshmallow, or with pure Google versions. As a long time Nexus user, the grass is not greener over here. Google either doesn't want to or can't afford to do the sort of QA that Apple does, and it shows.
I agree Apple generally has higher QA standards but they also have a much smaller pool of device variants to support and control over everything. Because apple prevents you from downgrading, they also must maintain higher standards. However, they have had some bad updates over the years especially on older devices.

On Android, things can be a little rocky for a couple months after a major version change. In most cases, it is worth it to wait a couple weeks for bugs and compatibility problems to get fixed.
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If you are bored of Android os being the same then good luck with ios. It'd on its 9th version and hasn't changed a thing. You're doing Android wrong if you don't like the layout and haven't changed it.
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If you are bored of Android os being the same then good luck with ios. It'd on its 9th version and hasn't changed a thing. You're doing Android wrong if you don't like the layout and haven't changed it.
Agreed.

Plenty of backend changes and features added. 4.3 isn't that different aesthetically from 5.1.

If you want to change the look of things try things like:
Next Lock Screen: https://play.google.com/store/app...osoft.next
Arrow Launcher: https://play.google.com/store/app...t.launcher
https://play.google.com/store/app...a.launcher
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Quote from cdogg44 View Post :
Do you care to expand on this? I had some pretty specific details I was looking for and have yet to find iOS equivalents for some. You seem passionate about iOS over Android, but I'm curious as to why it would be a better fit for MY needs.

Thanks
I'm using Moto X 2nd gen as a daily driver btw.
Just my 2 cents:
- Native apps: same on both. Who cares about it when we are having Appstores?
- Facetime is superior to Skype, we all know that it is exclusive to iOS. We can install Skype on iphone but most people i know using facetime ( iPhone/ iPad) so let forget Skype.
- Icloud back up & keychain is much better than Google one for sms, call logs, contact, photo... Google backup is such a joke IMO.
- i have no idea about t9 dialer.
- my 4 years old iphone battery still hold up well. My sister note 2 which i gave her is on the 3rd one. Quality issue right here.
- Taking note on 5.7 inches display and the tiny S-pen? Thanks Samsung but my surface pro 3 does better job.
- You ll feel the convinence of having fingerprint unlock on iphone 6s ( nexus 6p and 5x are comparable).
- No iPhone being smashed against the wall due to OS updating part.
Smilie

Ps: I forget to mention about Touch wiz and Bloatware exclusive to Samsung right out of the box.
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