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Help With Desktop Gaming Rig Upgrade Advise

Injected 26 14 January 31, 2016 at 04:35 PM
Hi, my first post in tech support and was hoping I could get some help with upgrading my gaming rig.

Is the "Asus" 970 a good card or should I hold out for a better card? Either way it will probably be a 970 but is there a better overall brand I should hold out for?

When the new cards hit the market how much do you think the 970 will drop down to?

I'm looking to upgrade to a 970 pro and go from a HDD to a SSD 1TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD (waiting for SSD's to drop in price also).

I don't need the latest greatest parts, just looking to pickup last gen stuff, I'm on a budget. I'm hoping to move up to 3 screens in the future. Am I headed in the right direction?

Currently Running: Built my rig in 2011 - Copied and pasted the info from my newegg past orders page.
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge Quad-Core 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W BX80623I72600K Desktop Processor Unlocked
1 x Western Digital Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200 (CMPSU-1200AX) 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified 80 PLUS GOLD
1 x EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI
1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9Q-16GBRL
CORSAIR Hydro H70 CWCH70 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler
1 x ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Cooler Master HAF X - High Air Flow Full Tower Computer Case with Windowed Side Panel
1 x ASUS VW246H Glossy Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor

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I would not expect the Samsung 1tb drives to drop dramatically. I would instead buy a 250gb or 500gb SSD (Samsung, Intel, Crucial) and keep your hard drive for game/media files. You will get the speed benefits of windows loading, programs launching and do it economically.

970 pro is a graphics card?
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I would not expect the Samsung 1tb drives to drop dramatically. I would instead buy a 250gb or 500gb SSD (Samsung, Intel, Crucial) and keep your hard drive for game/media files. You will get the speed benefits of windows loading, programs launching and do it economically.

970 pro is a graphics card?
Yes, the 970 pro is a graphics card. I think I've narrowed it down to the GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 GAMING OC EDITION. Just hoping the price drops sometime soon.

I don't know how to setup a hdd & ssd at the same time or hdd & hdd. I was just going to buy a 1TB SSD and replace my hdd. But you are right the the 250 & 500GB are much more within reach price wise. I just need to figure out how to run them together. I'm figuring if I upgrade these two I should be good for awhile. Then at a later time I can get a new processor , mother board & memory. I'm not sure if this is the best way to go.
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I would suggest you to avoid Gigabyte. They are a low end company. I had a technical question once on how to use 3 monitors at once and the tech support person said it wasn't possible. I figured it out using an Active Display port adapter.

Also, installing 2 drives at once is easy. Just insert your Windows install disc and chose the drive you want to install Windows on during the set up process. You will have to format your old HDD and reinstall everything again, or transfer your files from a back up external HDD. Whenver you install a new program you will be able to choose which drive to put it on. Also, some SDD kits come with cloning software so you can just copy your HDD onto it and not reinstall windows. Of course this may be problematic if your HDD has more info than your SSD's Gigabytes. I personally recommend to reinstall from scratch anyway. You'll probably have old files and settings you don't use that are wasting space. And with a 256 or 500 GB SSD you don't have space to waste Stick Out Tongue
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Yes, the 970 pro is a graphics card. I think I've narrowed it down to the GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 970 4GB G1 GAMING OC EDITION. Just hoping the price drops sometime soon.

I don't know how to setup a hdd & ssd at the same time or hdd & hdd. I was just going to buy a 1TB SSD and replace my hdd. But you are right the the 250 & 500GB are much more within reach price wise. I just need to figure out how to run them together. I'm figuring if I upgrade these two I should be good for awhile. Then at a later time I can get a new processor , mother board & memory. I'm not sure if this is the best way to go.
Like Novakingwai said running 2 drives is easy. You could always install windows with one and then add the hard drive after you have windows installed. That's probably the most simple. If you change motherboard, processor, and ram you most likely will need a new copy of windows too depending on what version/license you have now.

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I would suggest you to avoid Gigabyte. They are a low end company. I had a technical question once on how to use 3 monitors at once and the tech support person said it wasn't possible. I figured it out using an Active Display port adapter.

Also, installing 2 drives at once is easy. Just insert your Windows install disc and chose the drive you want to install Windows on during the set up process. You will have to format your old HDD and reinstall everything again, or transfer your files from a back up external HDD. Whenver you install a new program you will be able to choose which drive to put it on. Also, some SDD kits come with cloning software so you can just copy your HDD onto it and not reinstall windows. Of course this may be problematic if your HDD has more info than your SSD's Gigabytes. I personally recommend to reinstall from scratch anyway. You'll probably have old files and settings you don't use that are wasting space. And with a 256 or 500 GB SSD you don't have space to waste Stick Out Tongue
IDK that I consider Gigabyte a low end company. Just sounds like you had a bad support person reading a script. I have had to RMA GPU's to them in the mining days and things were ok. I would agree it's best to format if its an option when installing an SSD on a non new computer.
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IDK that I consider Gigabyte a low end company. Just sounds like you had a bad support person reading a script. I have had to RMA GPU's to them in the mining days and things were ok. I would agree it's best to format if its an option when installing an SSD on a non new computer.
I agree; I've had good success with Gigabyte. I stick with them or Asus for my PC component needs (with a strong preference towards Gigabyte) when possible.
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OP, maybe you should talk goals instead of hardware! What kind of games do you play, what are you hoping to accomplish, do you expect to game on all three monitors, etc.?
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Thanks for the advice everyone, I'll look into installing two drives. I never did it before but you guys make it sound easy. Hopefully it comes with a cloning disk.

I'm running windows 7, I know someone that had windows 8 and I didn't like it so stayed with Win 7. I haven't seen win 10 yet so not sure if I'll upgrade.

For goals I want to game on all 3 monitors as well as use the 3 monitors separately to multitask different programs when not gaming. I don't get to game as much as I used to so I've been sticking to games I can log on when I have time and log off within a minute or so at a moments notice as needed. When free time comes around again I want to be able to play the new games that come out in 2016 on all three monitors.

When I built my rig in 2011 I wanted to future proof it so I could upgrade it as needed. That's why I went with a big case with plenty of airflow and slots, I also went with a big gold class power supply. I knew the other pieces would need replaced before those two due to games getting more and more demanding. I'm trying to upgrade a piece or two at a time if possible. I don't have the cash to buy everything at once and do a whole new build like I did last time. I figured if I get the graphics card I would get the most bang for my buck. Then I could get the ssd, hopefully my cpu, mobo, and mem will be good enough until I can come up with some more cash to upgrade those three all at once.

Let me know if I'm thinking in the right direction or if maybe I should go another route. Game graphics are getting more demanding and I'd like to start thinking about which way to go when upgrading.
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I'm running windows 7, I know someone that had windows 8 and I didn't like it so stayed with Win 7. I haven't seen win 10 yet so not sure if I'll upgrade.
Windows 10 and 8 are both better than 7. Only reason not to upgrade is for some software compatibility issues. I do a lot of trainers and cheats in my games and they don't work well with 8.
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Windows 10 and 8 are both better than 7. Only reason not to upgrade is for some software compatibility issues. I do a lot of trainers and cheats in my games and they don't work well with 8.
In general though, this is a good thing for security. Limiting the ability of trainers and cheats to mess with apps also limits the ability of malware to mess with apps.
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You may have some issues driving 3 1080 monitors with 1 970 card. You may want to consider 1 34" widescreen, either 1080 or 1440.

Pixel Counts:
3x 1920x1080 Monitors: ~6.2 million
1x 2560x1080 Monitor: ~2.76 million
1x 3440x1440 Monitor: ~4.95 million

So even 1 34" 1440 monitor would be better than 3 1080 monitors.
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