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GJG1040 310 134 February 16, 2016 at 05:20 PM More eBay Deals
My grandson wants to buy this [ebay.com] to run a minecraft server. It is cheap so I guess he can't get too burnt. What else will he need to get to make it work? He started out going to buy a raspberry pi or orange pi but thinks this is better. He is just learning on his own about all this. He built a Kano kit and has done a bit of coding on it. He has had Minecraft servers on his desktop but wants to try this now. Any advice?

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My grandson wants to buy this [ebay.com] to run a minecraft server. It is cheap so I guess he can't get too burnt. What else will he need to get to make it work? He started out going to buy a raspberry pi or orange pi but thinks this is better. He is just learning on his own about all this. He built a Kano kit and has done a bit of coding on it. He has had Minecraft servers on his desktop but wants to try this now. Any advice?
Wow, that thing is ancient. Those are the old Nocona NetBurst Xeons. They're 64-bit, but lack the NX bit, which means no Windows 10. Windows 7 (probably) and Linux (definitely) will run on it, either of which ought to run a Minecraft server fine.

Assuming it all works, and he can get it for $30 (plus $47 shipping when I plugged in my zip code), it'll be more powerful than a Raspberry Pi. And louder. And more power hungry.

Watch especially for power consumption. That thing probably draws a ton of power (netburst was not a power efficient architecture, and it's got 2 CPUs clocked at 3.6GHz). If he's going to run it 24x7, I'd say expect to spend at least a couple hundred bucks a year keeping it going. Expect ~190W at idle and ~350W at load (http://techreport.com/review/8236...cessors/16). A modern low end Haswell system might be 50W and 100W respectively.

He's also going to need to turn up an IDE hard drive (not sata), so that means another ebay run unless you've got an old one somewhere.

If it were me, I'd probably wait for something a little bit less ancient and more power efficient. The break even point on a cheap Haswell based desktop would probably be less than a year if you factor in power, shipping, and needing to buy a hard drive.

Edit: I can't believe I missed the opportunity to make a pun on being burnt. All that power will eventually end up heating your house.
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No. Don't buy a 10 year old server, not even for $30 + S&H
Also, rack mount servers are a little hard to deal with if you don't have a rack.

By today's standards, that's a pretty loathsome processor even a pair of them have 10 times less processing power than an i7-4790. Not to mention the power consumption and heat generation. Heck a Pentium G3220 is 3 times more powerful than that.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

I'd strongly recommend something newer, but you could get a refurb core2 duo with twice the processing power for a similar price once shipping is added. The bottom end for deals on a reasonably new and powerful machine is around $250-350.
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No. Don't buy a 10 year old server, not even for $30 + S&H
Also, rack mount servers are a little hard to deal with if you don't have a rack.

By today's standards, that's a pretty loathsome processor even a pair of them have 10 times less processing power than an i7-4790. Not to mention the power consumption and heat generation. Heck a Pentium G3220 is 3 times more powerful than that.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

I'd strongly recommend something newer, but you could get a refurb core2 duo with twice the processing power for a similar price once shipping is added. The bottom end for deals on a reasonably new and powerful machine is around $250-350.
Sure it's only 10 years old? It's certified to run windows 2000 it looks like. I am betting it's older then the grandchild.

I agree, don't buy this it's not a good platform to learn on and will be over $100 easy by the time it ships, and he gets a hard drive for it that fits.
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Sure it's only 10 years old? It's certified to run windows 2000 it looks like. I am betting it's older then the grandchild.

I agree, don't buy this it's not a good platform to learn on and will be over $100 easy by the time it ships, and he gets a hard drive for it that fits.
I just grabbed the copyright date off of this pdf (2005): http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/im...G4_v37.PDF
Looks like it would take SCSI / SAS hard drives not even IDE. Another reason NOT TO BUY.
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This game is not to hefty on the server requirements. Especially if he just wants this for his buddies.
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Se...quirements
If dedicated
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Se.../Dedicated
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I think he would be better off running it off a regular computer. Maybe an Intel NUC if you have money to spend. That server will also eat electricity. I think the Raspberry pi server would be pretty cool to set up, but you will probably be limited on performance(never created myself).

If he doesn't want to set it up you can purchase one with a monthly fee on gameservers.com or other like websites.

You could also try hosting on Amazons EC2. That would probably work pretty well.
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You could also try hosting on Amazons EC2. That would probably work pretty well.
EC2 is a great idea. It would probably end up being free for the first year. Maybe a few small expenses.
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Thanks for your input. I had him read it and he has decided it is not a good idea. He wants to buy some kind of Dell server but it will take him along time to save that much money. I am trying to talk him into the raspberry or orange pi idea and start with that with just 3 or 4 friends playing. He thinks the lag would be terrible. Have any of you tried a Minecraft server using a pi? Thanks for the help.
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Thanks for your input. I had him read it and he has decided it is not a good idea. He wants to buy some kind of Dell server but it will take him along time to save that much money. I am trying to talk him into the raspberry or orange pi idea and start with that with just 3 or 4 friends playing. He thinks the lag would be terrible. Have any of you tried a Minecraft server using a pi? Thanks for the help.
He doesn't need a true server. Buying a computer designed/marketed as a server just means paying a premium for features that won't matter to your grandson. An ordinary desktop with decent specs is plenty. If he really wants to buy some hardware, dell outlet is the best bet.

It may be a bit unfamiliar to him, but Amazon's EC2 really is a very good option. He could probably use it for a year without paying anything, it's certainly worth trying. Though he may need a domain name ~$9/yr. He might learn some more useful skills this route anyway.
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He doesn't need a true server. Buying a computer designed/marketed as a server just means paying a premium for features that won't matter to your grandson. An ordinary desktop with decent specs is plenty. If he really wants to buy some hardware, dell outlet is the best bet.

It may be a bit unfamiliar to him, but Amazon's EC2 really is a very good option. He could probably use it for a year without paying anything, it's certainly worth trying. Though he may need a domain name ~$9/yr. He might learn some more useful skills this route anyway.
Agree 100% with Jkee. OP to host Minecraft people call the computer doing the work a server but that doesn't mean he needs an actual server in terms of what Dell or HP sells. They are designed for business tasks not gaming. They are more difficult to configure for sure and have parts that are not cheap consumer versions. So that hard drive that goes on sale at Staples won't work, he would need one thats probably 50% more expensive, less storage space etc.

Anyways Minecraft is not a technically challenging game for a modern computer. Thats why it runs on these Raspberry Pi and other small inexpensive computers. I know if you are running a lot of mods' then it can become more complex but still nothing to the line of needing a real business server. EC2 or a Raspberry Pi 2 would be a good choice, and useful for when he gets tired of Minecraft someday too.
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Thanks for your input. I had him read it and he has decided it is not a good idea. He wants to buy some kind of Dell server but it will take him along time to save that much money. I am trying to talk him into the raspberry or orange pi idea and start with that with just 3 or 4 friends playing. He thinks the lag would be terrible. Have any of you tried a Minecraft server using a pi? Thanks for the help.

If he only has 4 friends playing a pi would probably be fine. Id say max like 5 people. like liquid and jkee said you actually don't want a real 'server'. Any computer that's younger than 7ish years will do fine as long as it isn't dying. I'd recommend just throwing him an old pc if power consumption isnt an issue, then he wont have to pay a dime.... You will need to open ports in your router, and can make a free domain at noip.com.

something like this would work fine
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...5YV3JK1476
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Thanks for the input. He bought the one you suggested.

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If he only has 4 friends playing a pi would probably be fine. Id say max like 5 people. like liquid and jkee said you actually don't want a real 'server'. Any computer that's younger than 7ish years will do fine as long as it isn't dying. I'd recommend just throwing him an old pc if power consumption isnt an issue, then he wont have to pay a dime.... You will need to open ports in your router, and can make a free domain at noip.com.

something like this would work fine
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pro...5YV3JK1476
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My grandson bought 1 x HP Compaq 6000 Pro Micro Tower Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz E7500 - 4GB RAM - 160GB Hard Drive - DVD RW ...
Colors: Black / Operating System: Windows 7 Professional / CPU Type: Core 2 Duo / GPU/VGA Type: Intel GMA X4500 / Memory Capacity: 4 GB DDR3 / HDD: 160 GB
for a mincraft server. Now he bought a Fury hyperx to upgrade the ram. The part fits but now the computer just beeps when he turns it on. He thinks it is something about the BIOS not recognizing it. He wants me to help him but this is way above my pay grade. Any ideas what he must do?
He also wants to move his Alienware X-51 r2 into a new case because it is overheating and he wants room to upgrade it too. Any recommendations?
Thanks
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My grandson bought 1 x HP Compaq 6000 Pro Micro Tower Intel Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz E7500 - 4GB RAM - 160GB Hard Drive - DVD RW ...
Colors: Black / Operating System: Windows 7 Professional / CPU Type: Core 2 Duo / GPU/VGA Type: Intel GMA X4500 / Memory Capacity: 4 GB DDR3 / HDD: 160 GB
for a mincraft server. Now he bought a Fury hyperx to upgrade the ram. The part fits but now the computer just beeps when he turns it on. He thinks it is something about the BIOS not recognizing it. He wants me to help him but this is way above my pay grade. Any ideas what he must do?
He also wants to move his Alienware X-51 into a new case because it is overheating and he wants room to upgrade it too. Any recommendations?
Thanks
I doubt he actually needs to upgrade the ram. I personally wouldn't have bought a computer that old, could turn into a bit of a money pit. If there's a pattern to the beeps you might be able to look up beep codes for that computer.

He either: isn't installing the ram correctly, bought the wrong kind of ram or got defective ram. "fury hyperx" isn't exactly regarded as a good brand of ram, it seems like he made the choice based on how flashy the heat sink was...

It looks like that computer uses un-buffered non-ECC DDR3 SDRAM at a bus speed of 1333MHz. DDR-3 ram that's designed to run faster would work too. The max module size is 4gb.
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