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Question for owners of cellphones with sealed (non-removable) batteries.

NobleCrusader 352 55 February 27, 2016 at 08:54 PM
I typically keep a phone for 2 years, which I think is pretty normal. Usually well before that time is over I have to replace the battery, because the OEM battery can't hold a decent charge anymore.

For example, my original Galaxy Note 4 battery went bad after about 14 months of use. I popped in a replacement battery for $13 and it's good as new.

Despite this, the industry is moving towards sealed (non-removable) batteries. I'd like to know what owners of sealed battery phones have experienced. Have they lasted at least two years before essentially rendering the phone useless? Does your warranty cover the battery?

With Samsung going the sealed-battery route, I think my 12 year streak of Samsung phones is about to end unless the Note 6 has a replaceable battery. Your thoughts?

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Easy. Don't pay for high end phone.
You paid for it. Now you complain about non-removable battery?
Why don't you take it to the phone company? Customer wants it, that's why they make it.
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you only replace when old one can't hold a charge?
that shouldn't be a problem for you. it's easy to open and replace, usually no more than few screws.

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damn, the S6 maybe a little hard for you. don't know about the note 6 yet, i think bigger should be easier to open. look at the tutorial, if too hard for you, don't buy that model then. or pay to replace, some what cheap
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Last edited by Left4Deal February 27, 2016 at 09:45 PM
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A few options:
-Sell your high end phone when it's <1 year old.
-Buy a good 'mid range' phone that costs between $200 and $450 unlocked instead of one that runs $700+. Replace as needed.
-Limit yourself to models with easily replaceable batteries. LG G4 comes to mind.
-Charge your phone more frequently, in the car, at your desk, etc. The will prolong the lifespan of the battery.
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Easy. Don't pay for high end phone.
You paid for it. Now you complain about non-removable battery?
Why don't you take it to the phone company? Customer wants it, that's why they make it.
Did you even bother reading the OP or is that too much work for you?
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There's plenty of phone with removable battery. The LG g4 had better specs than the Samsung Galaxy g6 with removable battery and microsd slot
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Did you even bother reading the OP or is that too much work for you?
Reads fenderman and realizes I'm gonna catch hell again:

My wife and I both have and still use the iPhone 4s. Manufactured in 2011. These phones were not designed for the owner/user to replace the battery but that doesn't mean it can't be done. We've done that twice with batteries we bought on eBay.

New battery = [poof] New phone characteristics.

Buy a new phone or you could buy a phone tool kit and search for your battery on eBay.
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The Samsung phones can still be opened up (if you have the right tools) and the battery replaced. Same with the Droids. Buy the tool kit for $5-$10 and a battery for $30 online.
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The Samsung phones can still be opened up (if you have the right tools) and the battery replaced. Same with the Droids. Buy the tool kit for $5-$10 and a battery for $30 online.
It's worth mentioning that with the s6 is a lot more difficult to open than the s5 and prior (https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Sams...ment/44648). I haven't seen a guide for the s7 yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it continues the trend.

As mentioned up thread, before you get a phone, check out how repairable it is. iFixit.com is a good resource for this.
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Never ceases to amaze me why people buy electronics with non-replaceable batteries. Apple has been getting away with this garbage for years. Creates a whole secondary industry and gets a lot of people to buy new with every model...utter insanity. There is NO reason to constantly be upgrading smart phones every 2 years now, esp now that the phones are no longer subsidized by the carriers. One can not really be arguing that their S5 is not good enough and they need an S6 (or S7). I am still using my S4...no problems. Not going to upgrade until it is no longer functional as I have no desire to spend 100s of dollars on a new phone I do not need. If you are the type that needs the latest new toy all the time and is willing to pay for it, more power to you but it hardly seems like doing so and then complaining you may have to pay to have a battery changed is logical.

As to the Samsung models, it is true they have followed in Apple's lead to screw people over on this. There are plenty of options around this as noted including buying older models like the S5, buying used or buying some other vendors Android phone with replaceable batteries or dealing with the replacement yourself (or paying someone to replace the battery). So the matter of how long a battery life you get when you buy a sealed phone is sort of moot imo. If you buy a sealed battery phone, you obvious do not care or are willing to take the risk in that regard or you would\should not have bought one in the first place. Batteries can die at any time and anything over the warranty period is a risk you take when purchasing.
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Never ceases to amaze me why people buy electronics with non-replaceable batteries. Apple has been getting away with this garbage for years. Creates a whole secondary industry and gets a lot of people to buy new with every model...utter insanity. There is NO reason to constantly be upgrading smart phones every 2 years now, esp now that the phones are no longer subsidized by the carriers. One can not really be arguing that their S5 is not good enough and they need an S6 (or S7). I am still using my S4...no problems. Not going to upgrade until it is no longer functional as I have no desire to spend 100s of dollars on a new phone I do not need. If you are the type that needs the latest new toy all the time and is willing to pay for it, more power to you but it hardly seems like doing so and then complaining you may have to pay to have a battery changed is logical.

As to the Samsung models, it is true they have followed in Apple's lead to screw people over on this. There are plenty of options around this as noted including buying older models like the S5, buying used or buying some other vendors Android phone with replaceable batteries or dealing with the replacement yourself (or paying someone to replace the battery). So the matter of how long a battery life you get when you buy a sealed phone is sort of moot imo. If you buy a sealed battery phone, you obvious do not care or are willing to take the risk in that regard or you would\should not have bought one in the first place. Batteries can die at any time and anything over the warranty period is a risk you take when purchasing.

fenderman disagreed with you.
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nonremovable batteries really don't bother me. Since my moto days I haven't had issues with batteries and I';ve been through a few HTC and 2 Samsung devices. Nice perk but I'm not sure it would really impact my decision. Now, removable storage is another animal.
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Never ceases to amaze me why people buy electronics with non-replaceable batteries.
It's just not a feature people pay much attention to. The mfg's don't exactly advertise it. When you shop for a car the size of the gas tank probably isn't one of the features you care most about.

What needs to happen (and probably never will) is for consumers to demand (easily) replaceable batteries and software updates for 3 years, 18 months doesn't cut it.
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It's just not a feature people pay much attention to. The mfg's don't exactly advertise it. When you shop for a car the size of the gas tank probably isn't one of the features you care most about.

What needs to happen (and probably never will) is for consumers to demand (easily) replaceable batteries and software updates for 3 years, 18 months doesn't cut it.

Yes, but to a degree this falls under the Apple fan boy brain washing. The "I have to pay for the latest" mentality that Apple fan boys seem to have had for many years and which has spread to others now to a lesser extent. One does not throw away their laptop or desktop or Xbox 360 or LED HDTV when a newer model arrives...but for phones and to a lesser degree tablets, this seems to be accepted by many...do not understand it and never will. The Samsung users complaining is a bit different as at least they are complaining, but it has not seemed to have affected Samsung phone sales (which you would have though it would). When\if my S4 stops working, I will not buy an S6 or S7 so they lost me as a potential customer going forward because of it, but obviously I am not the general rule and more the exception.
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For $600.00+, all flagships should not only come with a replaceable battery but also a free spare!!!Smilie I'm gonna "anti sheep" it and only buy phones with easily replaceable batteries. Looks like LG is advertising a replaceable battery on their new G5.
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