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Outdoor Par38 LED Floodlight lighting?

YanksIn2009 3,107 773 February 27, 2016 at 10:52 PM
Can anyone recommend any decent quality, reasonably priced (say under $10-12 dollars each) PAR38 LED floodlights rated for wet\outdoor use with at least 1200 lumens output? Been wanting to replace my outdoor halogens and can't seem to find decent and not ludicrously priced alternatives.

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Not a drop in replacement for you, but I recently replaced an old incandescent fixture with this $40 unit [lowes.com]from Lowes (1050 lm) and it's far exceeded my expectations.
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I don't know of any LED Par style bulbs that are that bright for that price. Even non par that amount of lumens for that price is a stretch.

I know last month my local ACE hardware had LED retrofit cans for $15 on sale for 75W equivelent which were like 1200 lumen. I was pretty happy with them.
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I don't know of any LED Par style bulbs that are that bright for that price. Even non par that amount of lumens for that price is a stretch.

I know last month my local ACE hardware had LED retrofit cans for $15 on sale for 75W equivelent which were like 1200 lumen. I was pretty happy with them.

Yeah...cheapest I can find from a decent company is like $20 a bulb...It is insane and just not worth it at that cost.
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Yeah...cheapest I can find from a decent company is like $20 a bulb...It is insane and just not worth it at that cost.
I would look at retrofits to go smaller. If the lights are on a lot do your calculations might be worth it but I agree it's expensive. I just replaced all the cans in my Kitchen for affordable money after looking allover for a bulb that would work. Did it for under $100 and the increase in light is worth it.
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I would look at retrofits to go smaller. If the lights are on a lot do your calculations might be worth it but I agree it's expensive. I just replaced all the cans in my Kitchen for affordable money after looking allover for a bulb that would work. Did it for under $100 and the increase in light is worth it.

I re-did all the lights in the house awhile ago...got rid of the CFLs which I had and disliked. My house uses BR40s and BR30s. The BR40s I got subsidized through my electric company for $10 a piece (Philips Airflux). The BR30s I got for less than half that from various places. I know the internal bulbs I bought were mostly 900 lumen or less bulbs and the external ones I am looking for generate more light, but $20+ a bulb is just ridiculous for the outdoor\wet rated PAR38s imo. It simply is not cost effective.

The outdoor lights are partly for safety and partly for security and the current Halogens I am using are 1310 lumens, so cutting back to 1200 is already a reduction.
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I replaced my outdoor Par38 with this TestRite LED Motion Activated Security Light [costco.com] and I really like it and how bright it is. 2500 lumens/5000K, 36 Watts for $40
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The outdoor lights are partly for safety and partly for security and the current Halogens I am using are 1310 lumens, so cutting back to 1200 is already a reduction.
This one's $16.47 in my area (possible utility subsidy): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philip.../205213864
It's not 1200 lm, but that may not make that much difference.

Heath-Zenith makes the electronics for the majority of motion sensing lights out there and most of the things they've made in the last 10 years have a dimmer that ramps up to full brightness. Also most motion detectors and photocell's effectively dim the bulb slightly. Many plenty of led bulbs especially cheap ones, can't handle dimming.

As a result, simply replacing the fixture may make the most sense.
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This one's $16.47 in my area (possible utility subsidy): http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philip.../205213864
It's not 1200 lm, but that may not make that much difference.

Heath-Zenith makes the electronics for the majority of motion sensing lights out there and most of the things they've made in the last 10 years have a dimmer that ramps up to full brightness. Also most motion detectors and photocell's effectively dim the bulb slightly. Many plenty of led bulbs especially cheap ones, can't handle dimming.

As a result, simply replacing the fixture may make the most sense.

$20.77 on HomeDepot.com in my area.

Best deal I have found so far are these from 1000bulbs.com:

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product...S9455.html

which are about $19.76 after coupon code + shipping so roughly $21 a bulb depending on the quantity you buy. Simply not worth it.
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$20.77 on HomeDepot.com in my area.

Best deal I have found so far are these from 1000bulbs.com:

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product...S9455.html

which are about $19.76 after coupon code + shipping so roughly $21 a bulb depending on the quantity you buy. Simply not worth it.
Wait and see if there are any earth day (sometimes month long) sales in April. It's typically the best prices of the year.
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$20.77 on HomeDepot.com in my area.

Best deal I have found so far are these from 1000bulbs.com:

https://www.1000bulbs.com/product...S9455.html

which are about $19.76 after coupon code + shipping so roughly $21 a bulb depending on the quantity you buy. Simply not worth it.
I hope that picture is wrong, looks like a Halogen. No heat syncs on a bulb rated to last 25,000 seems unlikely. 3 Year warranty isn't much on an LED rated for 25,000 hours.

If you have watched many of the LED tear down videos on youtube you will know that not all bulbs are built to the same standards. Warranty is usually a big indicator. The race to the bottom is here and bulb quality/longevity is suffering. It's a repeat of the CFL days.
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Look here but also check retail stores with electric company rebates

https://www.earthled.com/collecti...ight-bulbs

Look here but also check retail stores with electric company rebates

https://www.earthled.com/collecti...ight-bulbs
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I hope that picture is wrong, looks like a Halogen. No heat syncs on a bulb rated to last 25,000 seems unlikely. 3 Year warranty isn't much on an LED rated for 25,000 hours.

If you have watched many of the LED tear down videos on youtube you will know that not all bulbs are built to the same standards. Warranty is usually a big indicator. The race to the bottom is here and bulb quality/longevity is suffering. It's a repeat of the CFL days.

This is true. Moot anyway as I am not paying $20+ dollars for a bulb.
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Look here but also check retail stores with electric company rebates

https://www.earthled.com/collecti...ight-bulbs

Look here but also check retail stores with electric company rebates

https://www.earthled.com/collecti...ight-bulbs

The online rebate\sale program for NJ used to run through here:

http://www.energyfederation.org/njcleanenergy

But the "temporary" suspension that has been in place for the past 2-3 months is still going strong. Like everything else in this state, it is so screwed up.
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check and see how the rebate is in a close state, I am in colorado and the local Costco has bulbs with the rebate from a different electric company than mine.
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