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Installing Windows 7 OEM on new harddrive

ChpByr 803 92 April 22, 2016 at 11:10 PM
Received a call from a friend whose hard drive died tonight and apparently he needs a fix tomorrow morning. I have a spare HD to give him, but he's on an older HP laptop running a Windows 7 Home OEM edition that I do not have installation media for. What would be the easiest way to get around this?

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Received a call from a friend whose hard drive died tonight and apparently he needs a fix tomorrow morning. I have a spare HD to give him, but he's on an older HP laptop running a Windows 7 Home OEM edition that I do not have installation media for. What would be the easiest way to get around this?
If the key is posted on the laptop, download windows 10 from MS (media creation tool) and use the 7 key to install 10. Then install classic shell..
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If the key is posted on the laptop, download windows 10 from MS (media creation tool) and use the 7 key to install 10. Then install classic shell..

However if the files on the original hard drive have any value to the owner [get ready everyone] Spinrite [grc.com]can and probably would recover the original hard drive.

Spinrite isn't free but it would cost less that a replacement hard drive and if by some reason it didn't recover the hard drive he can get a no questions asked refund on the purchase price.

I believe that it would be worth trying Spinrite before doing anything else. You can expect Spinrite 6 to take about 1hr to scan the average 7200RPM 160Gb hard drive.
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However if the files on the original hard drive have any value to the owner [get ready everyone] Spinrite [grc.com]can and probably would recover the original hard drive.

Spinrite isn't free but it would cost less that a replacement hard drive and if by some reason it didn't recover the hard drive he can get a no questions asked refund on the purchase price.

I believe that it would be worth trying Spinrite before doing anything else. You can expect Spinrite 6 to take about 1hr to scan the average 7200RPM 160Gb hard drive.
Its not worth trying spinrite if the user does not need files off the old drive. It would be a complete waste of time. There is no indication in the OP that this was an issue or concern.
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Its not worth trying spinrite if the user does not need files off the old drive. It would be a complete waste of time. There is no indication in the OP that this was an issue or concern.
Which is why I stated "However if the files on the original hard drive have any value to the owner [get ready everyone] Spinrite [grc.com]can and probably would recover the original hard drive."

Also you can't argue with "Spinrite is less expensive that a new hard drive". Or with the FACT that GRC gives "NO QUESTIONS ASKED REFUNDS".
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Which is why I stated "However if the files on the original hard drive have any value to the owner [get ready everyone] Spinrite [grc.com]can and probably would recover the original hard drive."

Also you can't argue with "Spinrite is less expensive that a new hard drive". Or with the FACT that GRC gives "NO QUESTIONS ASKED REFUNDS".
Dont OMG as if you are surprised. You quoted ME instead of the OP indicating that you had an issue with MY advice.
1) A person would have to be a COMPLETE idiot to continue using a drive that failed and was recovered by spinrite.
2) yes I can argue with ""Spinrite is less expensive that a new hard drive". its more expensive. I can buy a crucial 250gb ssd for 81 dollars or a 1tb drive for under 60..
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This may sound stupid but you can download win 7 iso from here
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/s...d/windows7

But you have to have a RETAIL key, I am not 100% sure if you use a retail key to download you can use the OEM key but you could give it a shot if you have a retail key somewhere. I think I have used a DELL oem disk on a HP before if you have one of those.

This site seems to have the isos

http://getintopc.com/softwares/op...-download/
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Thanks for the input guys, we had to delay the fix since I couldn't locate an OEM Win 7 installation ISO (that I trusted) in time. I've lent my friend an older laptop for the time being. The original HD looks to be toast, I think getting the system back up and running is more important to him atm since he is decent at keeping his more important files backed up on an external or on a cloud somewhere.

I know Microsoft is giving people free upgrades to Win 10, but will the Win 10 iso blindly accept a Win 7 key? or do I have to go through a separate process of actually "upgrading" the key first?

Thanks again for the input
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I know Microsoft is giving people free upgrades to Win 10, but will the Win 10 iso blindly accept a Win 7 key? or do I have to go through a separate process of actually "upgrading" the key first?

Thanks again for the input
Yes it will accept it. It was NOT always the case. Sometime in November or so there was an announcement that indicated the change. I have used this method many times. You do not need to perform an in place upgrade first.
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From what I have read and from what I have experienced if you have a valid Win7 or Win8.x key you can install a clean version of Win10 and perform the upgrade using the original Win7 or Win8.x key. From my experience after installing Win10 you would go to "Windows Activation" and enter your valid OS key. Once you have done that there isn't much else to do.

I would recommend that you create a backup of the User Account and especially the documents folder and everything inside it before performing the upgrade. Anyone that assumes that old files from the original Windows OS has no value is, well,,- not thinking clearly. I can't tell you how many times I was asked to perform an upgrade from WinXP to Win7 and after I specifically asked if there were important files that needed to be protected, IE; photos, word or excel docs, I was told "No don't worry about that" and 15 minutes after I was done they asked where their stuff went. [Try explaining that to the owner of the company]

Windows 10 is a different animal from previous versions of Windows. I won't go into why it is different from upgrading from previous versions but it all hinges on the fact that Microsoft has finally figured out how to prevent piracy of their Operating Systems Software and they are graciously giving you and me a chance to get Windows 10 free of charger.
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you can check the MD5 hashes to ensure it is correct
hash info here

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-u...9e3?auth=1

Does his disk have SP1 on it?
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and they are graciously giving you and me a chance to get Windows 10 free of charger.
gracious might be a stretch. They have to compete with Apple's free updates and have found new ways to make money off of windows 10 by selling information about you, showing some subtle ads, and selling things through the windows store.
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Who knows if Windows 10 will remain free for upgrades after the July cutoff. Is there a possibility that it will be a subscription service in the future?
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Who knows if Windows 10 will remain free for upgrades after the July cutoff. Is there a possibility that it will be a subscription service in the future?
Agreed, but it's hard to suddenly start charging for it. I understand why businesses like saas but as a consumer I'm not crazy about it.
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Who knows if Windows 10 will remain free for upgrades after the July cutoff. Is there a possibility that it will be a subscription service in the future?
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Agreed, but it's hard to suddenly start charging for it. I understand why businesses like saas but as a consumer I'm not crazy about it.
This has been one of the biggest fears of Windows 10 but it's just not going to happen but it's been a favorite internet myth. http://www.zdnet.com/article/wind...heres-why/

Microsoft wants to get people upgraded because it's easier for them to support 1 OS vs Win 7, Win8, Win 8.1, and Win 10. The more people they get to 10 the easier it is, especially since it has a completely different Update structure which is not only faster but more secure. Business users still get charged as do OEM's and thats where the bulk of the revenue is. Very few home consumers ever update an OS and Microsoft knows this.

Apple gives away OS upgrades and no one is concerned that suddenly their computer will stop working or convert to a subscription service. It's the same thing here. I would even go as far as to say I think there is a decent chance Microsoft will extend the "free" upgrade time to encourage people to still upgrade.
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