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i7 6700k Build Advice

LiquidRetro 12,661 4,824 April 24, 2016 at 07:57 PM
It’s time to upgrade my 6 year old i7 920 custom built desktop to something newer. I have been buying a few parts as they have come up on slickdeals and it’s time to finish it. The primary uses of the system will be raw photography processing in Lightroom, light video editing, web, and some 1080P gaming right now. My goal is to have things built and assembled by Mother's day weekend to use for editing photos from an airshow I plan on going to that weekend. Budget is flexible but around $1000 a little more little less if it’s worth it.

I am primarily asking for suggestions on motherboards, CPU coolers/case fans, Storage and a case.

Already purchased or I plan on reusing the following.
-Intel i7 6700k Processor only
-Gskill 32gb DDR4 (2x16)
-Samsung 850 Evo 500gb SATA (In current use)
-Seasonic 1250w Gold (Already had and is in use)
-AMD 7950 GPU (In Use now, It’s fine for 1080p gaming, ill upgrade when I go 4k displays when the price drops)

Here is the current tenative build from PC Parts Picker http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kTTtmG

Motherboards

-I have been reading and thinking the ASUS SABERTOOTH Z170 MARK 1 LGA 1151 might be a good choice. But wanting to know what everyones thoughts are. It's been awhile since I have kept up on motherboard technology. I doubt I will ever run 2 GPU’s since I don’t game a ton. USB of all shapes and sizes are important. Lots of SATA ports are also important since I will run a couple of hard drives at least until I upgrade to a NAS later in the year. What are some other motherboard suggestions?

CPU Cooler/Case Fan
-I want a pretty quiet PC and have the ability to Overclock some. With how easy overclocking is now I see overclocking on times i'm working on big photo projects and then running at stock speeds for the more normal times. I have done some research on the Noctua NH-D14 and it looks pretty nice but is it worth $70? I thought about going with one of the self contained liquid coolers but it sounds like they almost all have leaks after a few years

Is arctic Silver 5 still a good CPU paste? I have some that's a couple years old unopened.

Suggestions for a couple of good case fans? I have a leftover 120mm Noctura thats about 5 years old I thought I might use for one.

Storage
-To NVME or SATA - Already have the 500gb Samsung 850 Evo Drive that I could use. But transitioning to a new system would be easier and it would be faster if I bought a NVME 500gb Samsung for around that $150 mark. I would then use the 850 Evo I have as a scratch type disk and put in the new build after getting it up and transitioning it over. Is it worth it?


Case
I currently have my current system in a Lian-Li PC-7FN which I have enjoyed for the most part after replacing fans in it. It can hold 4 HD’s and I have my SSD on the floor of the current build. It’s super well built and all aluminum. The question is do I replace it? It doesn’t have USB3 and I have always felt like the airflow could be better as it really only has one 120mm in the front and 1x 80mm in the back + the power supply. I have my tower setup on a desk next to my desk about 5-6 feet away from my normal sitting position so a new case needs to be quite. A few more places for hard drives would be nice too. I don’t need and probably don’t want a window.


Any other opinions?

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CPU Cooler/Case Fan
-I want a pretty quiet PC and have the ability to Overclock some. With how easy overclocking is now I see overclocking on times i'm working on big photo projects and then running at stock speeds for the more normal times. I have done some research on the Noctua NH-D14 and it looks pretty nice but is it worth $70? I thought about going with one of the self contained liquid coolers but it sounds like they almost all have leaks after a few years

Is arctic Silver 5 still a good CPU paste? I have some that's a couple years old unopened.

Suggestions for a couple of good case fans? I have a leftover 120mm Noctura thats about 5 years old I thought I might use for one.

I'd look at the CRYORIG H7 for the CPU heatsink. Feedback suggests it has a better mount. In addition it's offset so it won't interfere with RAM which can be very close to the CPU socket in some motherboards.

Are your fans new or used? I would not build a new system using 5 year old used fans. Nor would I build a system without using 4 pin PWM style fans. Fans are pretty cheap.
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I'd look at the CRYORIG H7 for the CPU heatsink. Feedback suggests it has a better mount. In addition it's offset so it won't interfere with RAM which can be very close to the CPU socket in some motherboards.

Are your fans new or used? I would not build a new system using 5 year old used fans. Nor would I build a system without using 4 pin PWM style fans. Fans are pretty cheap.
OK I will look at that cooler. The leftover Nocnura fan is brand new, never used. 5 years ago they messed up my order of 1 and gave me 2 and said Keep it when I emailed them.
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personally I'd go the i5 route, you don't get a huge boost from i7 over i5. but that's just me.
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personally I'd go the i5 route, you don't get a huge boost from i7 over i5. but that's just me.
That ship has already sailed. Already have the i7 6700k so that is what I will be using.

I think your probably right it's not worth it for gaming but for what I am doing where threads/cores are important b/c the adobe suite of programs can use them all it will be worth it, not to mention the headroom thats left in the 6700k when overclocking.

Now back to the Motherboard discussion.
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I recently built a computer with the ASRock Z170 Extreme4+, I was fairly happy with it - it's a bit more of a budget board, but I haven't had motherboards actually crap out on me all that often, so I don't see the saber-tooth's "reliability" quite as much as a must-have - I also used the a D15S as the heatsink - I don't see a huge performance advantage from liquid cooling yet, and if you use nice fans they are quiet enough.

I would probably keep the case and just add some other front-panel USB expander, solid cases tend to last a while, and if you aren't gaming heavily then the ventilation should be fine
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I recently built a computer with the ASRock Z170 Extreme4+, I was fairly happy with it - it's a bit more of a budget board, but I haven't had motherboards actually crap out on me all that often, so I don't see the saber-tooth's "reliability" quite as much as a must-have - I also used the a D15S as the heatsink - I don't see a huge performance advantage from liquid cooling yet, and if you use nice fans they are quiet enough. I'm not sure about the GPU, it seems to be a couple generations behind - I would generally go with a newer card all other things equal (i.e. r9 380 or something instead)

the power supply is overkill, but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing - it won't hurt for sure
Ya the GPU is older back from the mining days but still works well. I just don't have a valid reason to justify spending more on a GPU at this point given I don't game that much. So as long as this card keeps running it has the power for the games I play when I do for now. I'll upgrade when something dies or I have a bigger need. I am sure a new card would use less power at idle but power here is $0.09 per kWH so it takes quite a bit of saved power to add up to "savings". I agree the PSU is overkill, it's leftover too, but I figure I might as well use it as it's a great psu and no additional cash outlay.

Everyone seems to like that heatsync despite the ugly fans. So it seems to be worth the price.

Cases?
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I got a bit confused, your parts lists shows the GPU as not-yet-purchased - are you looking for a new case, or is the lack of USB 3 the only thing you don't like about your current one? there are newer versions of similar cases, but nice metal cases are somewhat expensive - LianLi probably has an upgrade kit that consists of just a usb 3 cable to swap out if you contact them and ask about it

Noctua's color scheme in general takes a bit of getting used to, but I don't particularly like windowed cases anyways, and the noise performance is well worth it imo
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I got a bit confused, your parts lists shows the GPU as not-yet-purchased - are you looking for a new case, or is the lack of USB 3 the only thing you don't like about your current one? there are newer versions of similar cases, but nice metal cases are somewhat expensive - LianLi probably has an upgrade kit that consists of just a usb 3 cable to swap out if you contact them and ask about it

Noctua's color scheme in general takes a bit of getting used to, but I don't particularly like windowed cases anyways, and the noise performance is well worth it imo
No sorry I already have the GPU on hand. I have that LianLi case, and wondering peoples opinions on if I should get a new one or not. That's a good idea to contact them, as I would not have thought of it. The other thing was airflow, I feel like it's only ok airflow not great.
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The other thing was airflow, I feel like it's only ok airflow not great.
the more fans/holes, the louder/dustier it will be as well in general - also, a full metal case will radiate heat more than a plastic one, so in general those need less fans - but it will come down to preferences - since you already have the case, are the temperatures OK? (especially the motherboard - since those normally don't have direct fans, they are a decent indicator of overall case performance)
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the more fans/holes, the louder/dustier it will be as well in general - also, a full metal case will radiate heat more than a plastic one, so in general those need less fans - but it will come down to preferences - since you already have the case, are the temperatures OK? (especially the motherboard - since those normally don't have direct fans, they are a decent indicator of overall case performance)
Temps are on the higher side of OK for the processor. Not entirely sure I could monitor MB temps with the board I have. I was hoping with a new build I could improve airflow and lower temps. I could probably do something to get more air into the case with the unused 3.5" bays but not sure how I would get more air out of the case. It has only an 80mm place for a fan and the power supply exhaust. The way the PS is setup it only runs the fan if it needs to, with a little load as I put through it, it doesn't usually run or runs slowly.
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I got a bit confused, your parts lists shows the GPU as not-yet-purchased - are you looking for a new case, or is the lack of USB 3 the only thing you don't like about your current one? there are newer versions of similar cases, but nice metal cases are somewhat expensive - LianLi probably has an upgrade kit that consists of just a usb 3 cable to swap out if you contact them and ask about it

Noctua's color scheme in general takes a bit of getting used to, but I don't particularly like windowed cases anyways, and the noise performance is well worth it imo
Contacted LianLi, They have an upgrade for USB 3 for the front that I can buy and ship for about $38, super expensive for what it is. They don't offer any additional airflow upgrades thought. Not entirely sure what to do here. Opinions on if I should go for a new case?

Any motherboard opinions anyone?
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Contacted LianLi, They have an upgrade for USB 3 for the front that I can buy and ship for about $38, super expensive for what it is. They don't offer any additional airflow upgrades thought. Not entirely sure what to do here. Opinions on if I should go for a new case?

Any motherboard opinions anyone?
Got a spare drive bay? You could get something a little cheaper there, or get one of those front usb 3/card reader combos.

I've never put too much thought into motherboards. I just go for a reputable brand and try to avoid paying too much. The expensive boards seem to be aimed at overclockers, which has never interested me much. However, I haven't been paying a ton of attention to the new storage interfaces, which is almost certainly a factor here.
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