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suzicue1969 17 10 April 26, 2016 at 10:53 PM
Why is a SSD better?

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#1 reason is it's much much faster than a traditional platter hdd. Besides that other major things are no moving parts so it last longer, smaller and more lightweight, uses less electricity and runs much cooler
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#1 reason is it's much much faster than a traditional platter hdd. Besides that other major things are no moving parts so it last longer, smaller and more lightweight, uses less electricity and runs much cooler
I still doubt the "last longer" part.
I have seen many new SSD died in less than a year.
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I still doubt the "last longer" part.
I have seen many new SSD died in less than a year.

Statistically, SSD's outlive their anticipated life time (# writes essentially) which VASTLY outlasts their usage "in the real world" (for the average user).
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Speed - for both sequential and random writes you will see a significant boost over a traditional platter drive.

No Moving Parts - lack of internal moving parts means they are much more portable, less prone to shock issues and are unlikely to fail due to mechanical issues.

Smaller Parts - Higher density flash chips means they can put more data into a smaller space. They've chosen 3.5" drives as the general form factor which is still an improvement from traditional drives. Various non-SATA interfaces allow for even smaller packages.
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Wow, thank you all so much. That explains it all and helped me decide on my purchase.
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Wow, thank you all so much. That explains it all and helped me decide on my purchase.
It's pretty much a no brainer. I've been running SSDs for a while now at home, but finally got an upgrade 6 months ago at work. My boot time went from 8 minutes to 30 seconds, no joke.
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It's pretty much a no brainer. I've been running SSDs for a while now at home, but finally got an upgrade 6 months ago at work. My boot time went from 8 minutes to 30 seconds, no joke.
I "backdoored" a SSD upgrade at work just a month ago or so - I've been using SSD's at home for awhile with great success, so I went and bought a 500GB EVO for my work laptop, mirrored the drive (I'd usually just re-install the OS clean but there's a bunch of shit on there I can't reinstall/configure myself), and went. I then used Samsung's Magician to "optimize" the OS for an SSD (very simple). Everything about the machine is faster and I've had several coworkers with similarly-vintage machines comment how much quicker my PC is than theirs.

You'd also usually see a battery life improvement since the SSD pulls down a lot less power than an HDD, but I demoted the other HDD to a second drive using a $14 ebay caddy that replaces the CD drive (who the hell uses those with any frequency?), so all-in-all I added a SSD, net.

Given that SSD prices are crashing, you'd think IT peoples would want their org to use SSD's from a failure rate and performance increase alone. I bet coworkers spend 30 minutes every day just waiting for their PC's to "do something".
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I still doubt the "last longer" part.
I have seen many new SSD died in less than a year.
Then you are buying crap brands. If you are seeing "many" failures, then the issue is on your end. I have at least 100 in service and have not seen any failures. Stop trying to save 10 dollars and going with bottom barrel drives.
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I "backdoored" a SSD upgrade at work just a month ago or so - I've been using SSD's at home for awhile with great success, so I went and bought a 500GB EVO for my work laptop, mirrored the drive (I'd usually just re-install the OS clean but there's a bunch of shit on there I can't reinstall/configure myself), and went. I then used Samsung's Magician to "optimize" the OS for an SSD (very simple). Everything about the machine is faster and I've had several coworkers with similarly-vintage machines comment how much quicker my PC is than theirs.

You'd also usually see a battery life improvement since the SSD pulls down a lot less power than an HDD, but I demoted the other HDD to a second drive using a $14 ebay caddy that replaces the CD drive (who the hell uses those with any frequency?), so all-in-all I added a SSD, net.

Given that SSD prices are crashing, you'd think IT peoples would want their org to use SSD's from a failure rate and performance increase alone. I bet coworkers spend 30 minutes every day just waiting for their PC's to "do something".
I only got it after complaining very vocally about how long it takes my monster of a laptop to boot. I basically laid out a scenario demonstrating how much they were costing the company in my time on a yearly basis. It was only like 6 or 7 hours, but that would more than make up for the cost of the SSD. I also even offered to pay them $100 out of my own pocket for the upgrade. I think they finally got the message and are now making SSDs standard on all new systems during refreshes. It's simply inexcusable for any company in this day and age to refuse to do SSD upgrades.
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I only got it after complaining very vocally about how long it takes my monster of a laptop to boot. I basically laid out a scenario demonstrating how much they were costing the company in my time on a yearly basis. It was only like 6 or 7 hours, but that would more than make up for the cost of the SSD. I also even offered to pay them $100 out of my own pocket for the upgrade. I think they finally got the message and are now making SSDs standard on all new systems during refreshes. It's simply inexcusable for any company in this day and age to refuse to do SSD upgrades.
I can understand perhaps not buying them from the OEM with an SSD - outrageously overpriced and probably some brand X as well - but AFAIK my org just creates a master image for a certain laptop model and goes from there anyway, so the only effort involved would be physically swapping the drives, and of course ordering them. The (practically new) HDD's could be sold to offset the cost of the SSD's.

My boss continually complains about how his PC is slow but I hesitate to tell him I've upgraded my machine.

An SSD can basically make a 3-4 year old machine feel brand new.
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For our work machines the latest batch was the first where the price from an OEM made sense to go SSD. I have been using one at home for years but it truly is amazing the difference it makes. No people don't complain when you say to fix that you need to restart, etc.
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Why is a SSD better?
You will simply be amazed at how much faster your system boots, load programs, etc. I tried one in my PC and then upgraded all of our laptops and even our HTPC (the SSD made the TV guide screens load almost instantly). I only use spinning rust drives for data and backup storage these days.
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Wow, thank you all so much. That explains it all and helped me decide on my purchase.
Avoid the real cheap lower quality brands. The other things that could contribute to failure are high temperature and power fluctuations.

The best brands are: Samsung, Intel, and Crucial
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I "backdoored" a SSD upgrade at work just a month ago or so - I've been using SSD's at home for awhile with great success, so I went and bought a 500GB EVO for my work laptop, mirrored the drive (I'd usually just re-install the OS clean but there's a bunch of shit on there I can't reinstall/configure myself), and went. I then used Samsung's Magician to "optimize" the OS for an SSD (very simple). Everything about the machine is faster and I've had several coworkers with similarly-vintage machines comment how much quicker my PC is than theirs.

You'd also usually see a battery life improvement since the SSD pulls down a lot less power than an HDD, but I demoted the other HDD to a second drive using a $14 ebay caddy that replaces the CD drive (who the hell uses those with any frequency?), so all-in-all I added a SSD, net.

Given that SSD prices are crashing, you'd think IT peoples would want their org to use SSD's from a failure rate and performance increase alone. I bet coworkers spend 30 minutes every day just waiting for their PC's to "do something".

It is not IT people, it is the bean counters. They hire off shore and H1b types because they "save" money so do you think they care whether that same foreign worker takes 30 secs or 10 minutes to boot his machine? What is an extra 10 minutes at $10 an hour compared to the cost of an SSD lol? They are morons and that is the way they "think".

Seriously, SSDs are a god send. I have an older first gen i7 desktop that I did the same thing you did and loaded a 1 TB Samsung SSD on. Boot time went from many minutes to under one as well. Machine is now 8 years old and still going strong functioning mostly as a home media server. Definitely worth the money for the performance boost on any machine if you can afford it.
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