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Low Usage Always On Hotspot Recommendation

Elmer 25,536 May 13, 2016 at 03:50 PM
I'm looking for a hotspot for a rural home automation project. It will be on 24/7, but have very little use. Probably less than 100MB a month. Needs to maintain a reliable, always on, unattended connection.

Anyone have any recommendations on device and/or carrier?

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I'm looking for a hotspot for a rural home automation project. It will be on 24/7, but have very little use. Probably less than 100MB a month. Needs to maintain a reliable, always on, unattended connection.

Anyone have any recommendations on device and/or carrier?

Thanks!
Elmer, verify if there is Sprint coverage in that area. If so, Freedompop may be the way to go.

Phone running WiFi tether or a Freedompop HotSpot -> Power/Charger -> UPS battery -> electric/solar. UPS would more than likely hold up in most power out instances common in rural areas.

Be sure to run minimal apps on the phone otherwise data may become a problem. Trick here is, does your automation solution connect to a service via the internet or...

will your automation solution require a static IP address (mobile hotspots will periodically change). Not sure if anyone here has configured a Dynamic DNS solution as a work around on a phone. Definitely interested in this.
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I do have Sprint coverage.

I don't think I need static ip, just a reliable wifi. I need the device to not power down, etc.
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I'm looking for a hotspot for a rural home automation project. It will be on 24/7, but have very little use. Probably less than 100MB a month. Needs to maintain a reliable, always on, unattended connection.

Anyone have any recommendations on device and/or carrier?

Thanks!
I've dabbled with a similar project in my head but haven't gotten around to implementing it.

Rural usually means no sprint or t-mobile cellular data. That knocks all of the cheapest cellular data options out of contention. Then you're left with something using AT&T / Verizon or one of their MVNO's. The next challenge is that many of the MVNO's have something in their ToS that would ban this type of use.

Beyond that, many cellular networks are managed in a way that it's hard to remotely access a resource by port forwarding and you'd likely have to have a server in the middle facilitating nat traversal or have a constant VPN tunnel into your home network.

Sometimes you can get a sim card on a special plan designed to machine to machine (M2M) communication usually with limited data.

Doing something via SMS is possible too.

What exactly are you hoping to do with your automation system?

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I do have Sprint coverage.

I don't think I need static ip, just a reliable wifi. I need the device to not power down, etc.
FreedomPop is worth a try, you'll likely be violating their terms. You have to be careful when you sign up to opt out of the trial with a subscription fee. You should also expect some random fees from them, using a disposable credit card with a low balance / limit isn't a bad idea.

Wired will be more reliable than wireless. There are some travel routers you can plug usb cellular modems into. That may work better and doesn't have a battery. Like the TP-LINK TL-MR3020 http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-...B00634PLTW paired with a compatible USB modem (choose carefully... edit that might limit you the U600 http://www.freedompop.com/devices/franklin-U600)

You can also get something like this: http://resetplug.com/ to reboot things if the net goes down. But they may not work that great with a hotspot with internal battery.
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Thanks for the info. This will be part of a security system backup, which won't be online all the time, just needs to be addressed on command. Stuck with wireless, no way to connect up with Ethernet, etc.
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Thanks for the info. This will be part of a security system backup, which won't be online all the time, just needs to be addressed on command. Stuck with wireless, no way to connect up with Ethernet, etc.
Actual cellular alarm monitoring might be better.
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Actual cellular alarm monitoring might be better.
Got that. This is a backup to it.
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Thanks for the info. This will be part of a security system backup, which won't be online all the time, just needs to be addressed on command. Stuck with wireless, no way to connect up with Ethernet, etc.
Why do you need this? Your business should have billion dollars in profit. Just hire some muscles to protect your stuffs.

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Why do you need this? Your business should have billion dollars in profit. Just hire some muscles to protect your stuffs.

This is for the landscaper's maid quarters......
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This is for the landscaper's maid quarters......
What a rich bastard.
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What a rich bastard.
Yeah.... but he's the best landscaper I've ever had..... he deserves it.....
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Got that. This is a backup to it.
Cellular backup for a cellular alarm communicator... Facepalm

Just resolve what ever limitations you aren't happy with regarding the actual alarm / monitoring / or communicator.

Sarcasm and cynicism aside, more details on what you're actually tying to accomplish and your budget would allow more specific advice.
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Cellular backup for a cellular alarm communicator... Facepalm

Just resolve what ever limitations you aren't happy with regarding the actual alarm / monitoring / or communicator.

Sarcasm and cynicism aside, more details on what you're actually tying to accomplish and your budget would allow more specific advice.
I need to connect a device to a cellular wifi signal. Usage would be less than 200MB a month. Wifi Device needs to be available and reliable 24/7. It's part of a multi layer system, and it fits my specific needs.

Your assessment of my need for the device, or lack thereof, isn't what I was looking for, but thanks.
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OP Thanks for posting this question.

I may use some of what I'm learning at my remote shop.
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