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cloning a server os ssd pci-e

RWilliams 883 24 May 18, 2016 at 03:02 PM
Hey SDers, hoping someone can help me. I setup a small basic server for my small (medical related) business and wanted to clone the OS drive. It an older xeon 8 cores, 32gb ddr2 ram, it does seem to run hot but i measured internal cpu and each core runs around 40deg C. That should be okay, right?

I have two 2tb drives that are mirroring each other through win7 software (raid 1ish)

I wanted a SSD for the OS drive and to keep it separate from the data. So I opted for a SSD, and I thought PCI-e why not? I initially tried to clone stock drive, but kept having issues until i removed that stock os drive from the first sata port. Then it worked for a bit, but ended up having same issue error no bootable device after some time. What finally worked was a fresh install of ssd without any drives connected, and keeping the first sata slot open and unused. Inititally had trouble even with drives in because they had some memory 100mb partition, it wasnt until i fully wiped them and all parititions and a fresh install with just ssd pci-e when I finally had success. (i am not a pro by any means, im sure most of you could tell me what I did wrong better).

Anyhow it works now, and i had a software company install important data on the OS. I want to clone that drive in case it ever goes down. I think I will disconnect the two 2tb drives before I clone it with some freeware software like easeus, and was wondering if there is anything different about pci-e ssds than normal drives? Can I attach a sata HD, and just clone ssd pci-e without a problem? Or do i need to clone to another ssd pcie? Can i hook up an external 3.5" enclosure case and clone that way? Does it matter? I just dont want any issues such as no bootable device that i got atleast 7 times, but now that i have the software installed im a bit more nervous and dont want to mess up. Once i have the os drive backup, ill be content!

Thanks in advance for anyone that guide me, or even took the time to read this!

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40C for a server sounds fine.

Windows 7 on a server is not recommended. What does Raid1ish mean?

I think your problem is the computer is detecting the hard drives master boot table as being the primary boot devices. Did you adjust boot order in the bios?

If this was me I would continue Raid1 on the data hard drives, and have a really good backup system in place for both the hard drive and the ssd as it sounds like things are older (10 years?) since it uses DDR2.

What are you doing for a backup? You went from what sounds like a low IO operation on 2 drives on a RAID to a single fast drive. So now you have a single point of failure for your business critical server thats running a desktop OS.
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Quote from LiquidRetro View Post :
40C for a server sounds fine.

Windows 7 on a server is not recommended. What does Raid1ish mean?

I think your problem is the computer is detecting the hard drives master boot table as being the primary boot devices. Did you adjust boot order in the bios?

If this was me I would continue Raid1 on the data hard drives, and have a really good backup system in place for both the hard drive and the ssd as it sounds like things are older (10 years?) since it uses DDR2.

What are you doing for a backup? You went from what sounds like a low IO operation on 2 drives on a RAID to a single fast drive. So now you have a single point of failure for your business critical server thats running a desktop OS.
I wanted to clone the OS drive for that very reason as the OS drive is the single point of failure. I think its a somehwat loud 2007/8 workstation 490 (dell). Its a small business with only 4-7pcs so it should be fine, could have just used a new i7 i suppose but just went with software recommendations (they suggested win7 for server as well). I have a win7 software mirrored raid 1, which I read is raid 1ish. I will have online backup as well for my data, but wanted another OS drive, hence desire to clone. I just dont want to mess up the cloning process.

I had adjusted boot order, but it kept reading some memory from the other drive that was connected in first sata slot. That problem is resolved, was just weird and never understood it. All I'd like to do is clone the OS drive (new ssd pice), so i have a backup of it as everything else should be backed up properly.

Could I connect an external drive and clone the os drive without a hitch? I have a spare 2.5" 80gb ssd.

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I wanted to clone the OS drive for that very reason as the OS drive is the single point of failure. I think its a somehwat loud 2007/8 workstation 490 (dell). Its a small business with only 4-7pcs so it should be fine, could have just used a new i7 i suppose but just went with software recommendations (they suggested win7 for server as well). I have a win7 software mirrored raid 1, which I read is raid 1ish. I will have online backup as well for my data, but wanted another OS drive, hence desire to clone. I just dont want to mess up the cloning process.

I had adjusted boot order, but it kept reading some memory from the other drive that was connected in first sata slot. That problem is resolved, was just weird and never understood it. All I'd like to do is clone the OS drive (new ssd pice), so i have a backup of it as everything else should be backed up properly.

Could I connect an external drive and clone the os drive without a hitch? I have a spare 2.5" 80gb ssd.

thanks
I am still a little confused here but I digress. You can certainty try to clone your OS partition and see what happens. If your careful and not erasing drives or changing a bunch of settings you should be OK assuming the cloning software sees the PCIE drive. I would assume if the clone works you will have to change some bios settings (and unplug the PCIE drive) to test if it works.

In general I think a better solution would be an imaged based backup with something like Veeam Endpoint (Free edition) https://www.veeam.com/blog/announ...-free.html As with any backup you need to test the backup.
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