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Need Help with an AIO Please!

dizzsunshine 3,385 2,082 May 25, 2016 at 05:04 AM
Ok, I currently have a 5 year old XPS, I hate it. I want to go to an All-In-One ILO a laptop (don't need it to be portable, laptop would just sit on a docking station with the battery removed). That being said, I am the furthest from an expert on PC specs, what is good, what isn't. My brother is the expert but he is out of town stupid busy for work. Dell is having some great deals right now (I think, based on the Hot Deals thread) I got this yesterday, did I do ok? I need it for basically internet, kids homework, pretty basic stuff. Is the below good or could I have done better with specs? My bro would have told me to go for an i7 but I don't know if I really need that? I got this for $283


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You didn't mention why you hate the XPS you have, or which one you have. Thats important!

For $283 you didn't do terribly but it's not a computer I would want and here is why.

-CPU - This is a low power, low performance CPU. It benchmarks at 1690 https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu....40+1.60GHz Most low end i3 processors are at least double this. For what your doing I tend to recommend an i3 to people.

-Ram 4gb is kind of the minimum today I recommend for people. 8gb is quite a bit better especially if you like to have a lot of tabs open. You might be able to upgrade, not sure on this AIO.

-Storage 500gb 5400rpm hard drive is basically the cheapest, slowest storage can buy today. SSD's are so much faster. You can replace this but with a mid range 256gb ssd is going to be about $60-75. An SSD would make this machine more useable and feel much faster.

- Lastly the screen, not even 1080p, It really should be the standard on a machine sold in 2016 especially with a 20 inch display.

If you can afford a bit more I would recommend spending it and get a bit faster machine with a little more ram, and upgrade the SSD yourself. What you bought would work for what you had but I think if your looking to keep it for several years you would be better suited for a better machine.
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Pretty much +1 to what LiquidRetro said. Not terrible for $283 but for probably not much more you could have hit all the points he mentioned which would give you a longer lasting machine. If you aren't in a desperate rush I'd probably try to cancel it and wait for a better machine.

What's wrong with your XPS?
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Pretty much +1 to what LiquidRetro said. Not terrible for $283 but for probably not much more you could have hit all the points he mentioned which would give you a longer lasting machine. If you aren't in a desperate rush I'd probably try to cancel it and wait for a better machine.

What's wrong with your XPS?
it is slow, buggy, huge. I could probably dump and reload it, but it is in the way
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it is slow, buggy, huge. I could probably dump and reload it, but it is in the way
So it's a laptop? We may be able to advise further on this XPS and help you but we need to know the model number. Dell has been making XPS labeled systems since 1993 so tons of models that fall under that name. It would be like saying all Ford F150 are the same when they have made millions of them through the years.
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So it's a laptop? We may be able to advise further on this XPS and help you but we need to know the model number. Dell has been making XPS labeled systems since 1993 so tons of models that fall under that name. It would be like saying all Ford F150 are the same when they have made millions of them through the years.

Its a Dell XPS 8300 Desktop/tower. it is huge
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Its a Dell XPS 8300 Desktop/tower. it is huge
Specs?
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Its a Dell XPS 8300 Desktop/tower. it is huge
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Specs?
From some googling it looks to be at least an early i5 or i7. Full specs of the PC they have would be helpful.

Both of those processors would be significantly more powerful than what the OP just purchased.
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From some googling it looks to be at least an early i5 or i7. Full specs of the PC they have would be helpful.

Both of those processors would be significantly more powerful than what the OP just purchased.
That's exactly what I was thinking.. Those XPS towers typically have always come with i5/i7 processors and probably similar RAM/HDD.
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it is an i5. Sadly, when I went to look it it last night, it is stuck in this weird update cycle again. It does that for 18-24 hours and you can't do anything, can't hard reboot, NOTHING! It does this about once a week now. Thus, why I needed something new. I don't really use it except for SD shopping and to order pizza. I have a work laptop that I use for the real stuff. We aren't gamers or anything. The kids use it for YouTube and school email is all. I probably have a terrible worm that got past anti-virus (freakin kids clicking on pop-ups, eventhough they are disabled) it has gotten so bad that when I open up firefox, no-matter what I click on, it opens up 5 other browsers with spam.
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From some googling it looks to be at least an early i5 or i7. Full specs of the PC they have would be helpful.

Both of those processors would be significantly more powerful than what the OP just purchased.

Add in first gen i7s\i5s are still very usable for most common things, esp if you throw an SSD in them. No reason to toss them unless you need to do some high end work (db, graphics, etc) or gaming imo.

As to the Ops update issues, blaming the machine for what sounds like a Windows update issue, spyware\malware or a Windows OS issue is really blaming the platform for maintenance issues that would\could be in play with any Windows machine over time either because of MS or poor user practices. MS has had issues the past couple of cylces for ex with MS updates taking forever on some platforms that were tracked down to a couple of patches. If kids are using the machine, then a good AV\internet security package is a must and the machine could be infected will all sorts of bloatware and spyware. A clean install of the OS would probably be the easiest thing imo once all the user's data files have been backed up.
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it is an i5. Sadly, when I went to look it it last night, it is stuck in this weird update cycle again. It does that for 18-24 hours and you can't do anything, can't hard reboot, NOTHING! It does this about once a week now. Thus, why I needed something new. I don't really use it except for SD shopping and to order pizza. I have a work laptop that I use for the real stuff. We aren't gamers or anything. The kids use it for YouTube and school email is all. I probably have a terrible worm that got past anti-virus (freakin kids clicking on pop-ups, eventhough they are disabled) it has gotten so bad that when I open up firefox, no-matter what I click on, it opens up 5 other browsers with spam.

Blaming the machine because your kids have it infected with Spyware and bloatware is sort of blaming the car because the driver ran a stop sign and crashed it. As I noted in the prior post, a clean install of the OS after you back up any data files you have on it is probably your easiest fix (and then installing Norton or other reputable AV product and Malware Bytes). You could try to clean the machine using Malware bytes and Norton, but if it is really that bad then you are never going to be guaranteed all of it gets removed and really there is little advantage to doing that over a fresh re-install if all it likely has on it is your kids games\homework and some other misc personal files.
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it is an i5. Sadly, when I went to look it it last night, it is stuck in this weird update cycle again. It does that for 18-24 hours and you can't do anything, can't hard reboot, NOTHING! It does this about once a week now. Thus, why I needed something new. I don't really use it except for SD shopping and to order pizza. I have a work laptop that I use for the real stuff. We aren't gamers or anything. The kids use it for YouTube and school email is all. I probably have a terrible worm that got past anti-virus (freakin kids clicking on pop-ups, eventhough they are disabled) it has gotten so bad that when I open up firefox, no-matter what I click on, it opens up 5 other browsers with spam.
return the new machine you bought, it's much slower than what you have. Even a 1st generation i5 is going to be more powerful then what you bought new. I would go as far as to say a 1st generation i5 mobile processor is still probably 2x faster. You need to reformat the XPS machine and start over. Now is the best time to spend $100 and put an SSD in it which will make the feel of the machine much faster. You will be shocked.

It sounds like the machine is deeply infected, loaded up with crap and bloat ware and is not worth spending time to repair and or may not be possible to ever get it working well without a format. Do a format now and it will be as good as new. The easiest way to do this is to go straight to windows 10 on the new SSD via the Media creation tool. Activation will work as the dell key is embeded in the bios.

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Add in first gen i7s\i5s are still very usable for most common things, esp if you throw an SSD in them. No reason to toss them unless you need to do some high end work (db, graphics, etc) or gaming imo.

As to the Ops update issues, blaming the machine for what sounds like a Windows update issue, spyware\malware or a Windows OS issue is really blaming the platform for maintenance issues that would\could be in play with any Windows machine over time either because of MS or poor user practices. MS has had issues the past couple of cylces for ex with MS updates taking forever on some platforms that were tracked down to a couple of patches. If kids are using the machine, then a good AV\internet security package is a must and the machine could be infected will all sorts of bloatware and spyware. A clean install of the OS would probably be the easiest thing imo once all the user's data files have been backed up.
I agree, No antivirus/malware software will catch everything or help prevent a user who clicks everything. The everyday user accounts should be "standard" users and not administrators. Research has shown this to reduce malware and viruses by up to 90% with minimal impact to the user.
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I agree, No antivirus/malware software will catch everything or help prevent a user who clicks everything. The everyday user accounts should be "standard" users and not administrators. Research has shown this to reduce malware and viruses by up to 90% with minimal impact to the user.

Yup. admin rights for a child is madness.
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